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20 May 2008 09:05 am

According to George Packer, David Brooks is pretty perceptive:

When I met David Brooks in Washington, he was even more scathing than Frum. Brooks had moved through every important conservative publication — National Review, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, the Washington Times, the Weekly Standard — "and now I feel estranged," he said. "I just don't feel it's exciting, I don't feel it's true, fundamentally true." In the eighties, when he was a young movement journalist, the attacks on regulation and the Soviet Union seemed "true." Now most conservatives seem incapable of even acknowledging the central issues of our moment: wage stagnation, inequality, health care, global warming. They are stuck in the past, in the dogma of limited government. Perhaps for that reason, Brooks left movement journalism and, in 2003, became a moderately conservative columnist for the Times. "American conservatives had one defeat, in 2006, but it wasn't a big one," he said. "The big defeat is probably coming, and then the thinking will happen. I have not yet seen the major think tanks reorient themselves, and I don't know if they can." He added, "You go to Capitol Hill — Republican senators know they're fucked. They have that sense. But they don't know what to do. There's a hunger for new policy ideas."

I have more thoughts on this matter, but for now the superficial -- does this really sound like a plausible reason for David Brooks to have agreed to become a New York Times columnist? Is there some long list of political pundits who turn down that particular job offer? I'm guessing Brooks took the job because he was offered a job as an NYT columnist and that's not the sort of job you turn down.

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Of course, Bill Kristol has proved that you don't need to leave movement journalism when you become a NY Times columnist.

What's important, though, is the incredible intellectual depth and broad, analytically sound and factually verified insight David Brooks brings to the New York Times.

And here's the latest installment of "cry me a river." No self awareness, none at all.

I don't know, Matt. I think you are projecting. I imagine many people would prefer the diverse challenges of publishing and/or editing an important political or cultural magazine, filled with a changing list of vital new writers, and affording one the side benefit of contributing a column of one's own from time to time, to the tedium of putting out a single, limited space column. Brooks certainly was in a position to do the former, given his experience and background. He could have started a new magazine. It sounds like he genuinely was attracted to the freedom of being his own guy, without the obligations to cater to a narrower circulation movement readership, and without the obligation of managing a stable of authorial egos.

Of course Republicans are fucked. They hold up dumbasses like Inhofe, Kyl and Cornyn as leaders in the movement and give voice to conservatives like Debbie Schussel and Kathleen Parker who pen Nazi-esque rants about Obama's lack of "blood equity" in America's soil and freak out when he meets with Shia religious leaders in Detroit because Shia = eeeeeeevile!

Malkin is pissed that McCain isn't giving her the time of day, but given how fucked up and racist she is and that she represents the mainstream of Conservative thought, can you blame him for, not just walking away, but RUNNING?

Until the Conservatives realize that they are intellectually bankrupt (not really a possibility as long as idiots like K-Lo and Doughy Pantload are regarded as intellectual superstars) and formulate a less racist, more coherent and rational world view that admits that there is a role for the state beyond bombing shit and spying on you, they're going to be wandering the Sinai for a long, long time.

A fucking hack wiener to the end.

If it's any consolation, David, I haven't felt that any disingenuous spouting of GOP talking points in your columns have been truly, fundamentally true in years and years.

It is nice to see that conservatives can admit that the movement has become intellectually bankrupt. I think that is starting to dawn on some conservatives, much too late to do them good of course. I think a large part of them will splinter with the right wing core. Will the libertarians continue to find a home in the GOP? Or the tax cut crazies? The Christians right and evangelicals?

As others have pointed out, when you don't respect the institutions of government, odds are you'll do a shitty job running them. Or as I like to taunt, Bush and Ron Paul are opposite sides of the same coin.

As they say in Oshkosh, the intellectual bankruptcy of the conservative movement is a feature, not a bug.

The modern American conservative movement exists only to roll back the gains made by anyone other than those in the top 5% of the income bracket during the hey day of liberalism in America following the depression. No rational or moral argument but only the affectation of the same can justify this objective.

"Jobs I'd be Willing to Take"

Well, given that unlike Matthew, Brooks thinks wage stagnation, inequality, and health care are the central issues of our moment, I'd say the NYTimes probably made the correct choice, from a progressive point of view.

And the rehabilitation of neocons (Brooks, Goldberg) continues apace.

What Norby said. Brooks is as disingenuous as it gets.

And he's not a "moderate conservative columnist." He uses his position at the Times to pretend to be one. Shit, Brooks attends the super secret Administration debriefings for wingnut bloggers (Powerline! et al) and repeats the spoon fed talking points, albeit in a concern troll manner.

Brooks has the ability to see the flaws in his party's thinking in the same way DLC types diagnosed the Demo disaster of the last few decades.

Objectivity is the most-professed and least-practiced journalistic ideal.

Well, given that unlike Matthew, Brooks thinks wage stagnation, inequality, and health care are the central issues of our moment, I'd say the NYTimes probably made the correct choice, from a progressive point of view.

Seriously Petey, this again? Now David Brooks is a more authentic progressive than me because even though I agree with you about all of these issues, I voted for Barack Obama? The true progressive path is to sign on with Brooks for some John McCain, tax cuts, and union-busting?

Don't feed the troll, Matt.

I'm guessing Brooks took the job because he was offered a job as an NYT columnist and that's not the sort of job you turn down.

Indeed, I remember reading a story about him being offered the column at the Times which quoted his response to the offer as being, "Has anyone ever said 'no' to that question?"

Feeding the troll only encourages him.

If Petey doesn't think that Obama doesn't realize that wage stagnation, inquality and health care are the central issues of our moment, then he is just a dick.

Its that simple.

"But they don't know what to do. There's a hunger for new policy ideas."

And here comes the misery of a hack: a hack is not suppose to think!

I love a talk about the need for new bold ideas without offering a hint of what it should be. Very safe indeed. Plus, rather worn and timid.

Actually, Brooks tried to propose something called "national greatness" that could sneakily sell conservatives on few ideas that are not totally retrograde, but it did not work out.

Actually, Brooks tried to propose something called "national greatness" that could sneakily sell conservatives on few ideas that are not totally retrograde, but it did not work out.

Iraq could still work!!!

Brooks' hackitude to one side for a moment, your (Matt's) explanation of Brooks' taking the NYT job and Brooks' own aren't necessarily incompatible. Just because one doesn't turn down the NYT opinion page doesn't mean that Brooks wasn't ready to leave movement journalism for the reasons he states.

Pace freddiemac @ 9:45, Brooks actually opined something similar regarding respect for the institutions of government in a lengthy NYT Magazine article written in the wake of the 2004 election. I don't have a specific reference at hand, but he made the same point, and I think you're both right.

I find Brooks frustrating. He seems on the one hand to bring genuine insights to the table from time to time, but on the other he seems fundamentally incapable of drawing the conclusions that necessarily follow from those very insights. My diagnosis is that he suffers from the High Broderism endemic to most of the pundit class: If you realize one side is ideologically bankrupt, well, the other side must be too, since both must be equally bad, and so there must be some "third way" out there. Pity that Brooks seems deluded into thinking that McCain could be that third way.

He seems on the one hand to bring genuine insights to the table from time to time, but on the other he seems fundamentally incapable of drawing the conclusions that necessarily follow from those very insights.

Perhaps this might suggest to you that you're wrong when you believe that he brings "genuine insights to the table from time to time." I don't want to say that such doubt should necessarily follow, but....

He doesn't say he took it because he was sick of the hack magazines. He just says he was sick of the hack magazines. Who turns down the offer to become the next Safire? No one, and Brooks isn't suggesting anyone would.

"Now David Brooks is a more authentic progressive than me(?)"

My comment was only half-serious.

But if we were to judge only by the pullquote of Brooks, sure. Without a doubt. The fact that we have some knowledge of Brooks beyond the pullquote is what makes it not fully serious.

But ideology aside, Brooks certainly is more intellectually honest that the post-February version of Yglesias, which is kinda remarkable, considering that we're talking about David Brooks.

It sounds like Brooks never would have gotten the editorship at National Review:

Last year, writing in The New Republic, Sam Tanenhaus revealed a 1997 memo in which Buckley—who had originally hired Brooks at National Review on the strength of a brilliant undergraduate parody that he had written of Buckley—refused to anoint him as his heir because Brooks, a Jew, is not a “believing Christian.”

(from the article Yglesias linked)

So, he might as well take the NY Times job.

Posted by Brian C: "I find Brooks frustrating. He seems on the one hand to bring genuine insights to the table from time to time, but on the other he seems fundamentally incapable of drawing the conclusions that necessarily follow from those very insights. My diagnosis is that he suffers from the High Broderism endemic to most of the pundit class: If you realize one side is ideologically bankrupt, well, the other side must be too, since both must be equally bad, and so there must be some "third way" out there. Pity that Brooks seems deluded into thinking that McCain could be that third way."

Or - Brooks is simply a highly dishonest right-wing wh*reson whose 'character' for public consumptipon he plays is that of the High Intellectual Moderate Sociologist. He'd like to be a Broder, of course, but in the end he's a movement conservative. His observations mentioned by Packer are only pertinent in that they represent a collapse in morale of cheerleaders for the right.


Leaving movement journalism for the Safire Chair means you don't have to be on-message all the time.

Brooks has been far more successful at this than Billybob Kristolmeth, whose Times column can now, on the basis of past performance, simply be presumed objectionable, propagandistic, deceptive and factually inaccurate.

With Brooks, it's still a case of having to read the column to work out which of those criteria apply this time round. Brooks is aware that every three columns or so he's meant to lace the discourse with conservatarian cyanide, but he's not quite up to doing it twice weekly.

Petey, have you ever heard people talking about "exhibitionism" only to have them shut up when you get closer?

"They have that sense. But they don't know what to do. There's a hunger for new policy ideas." The best part of this quote is David again demonstrating he's right in the middle of movement conservatism. It's never about policy ideas, it's about the ideas that can be sold that would put them into power. If the conservative arguments had ever been about 'policy ideas' they would have actually acted on them! Smaller government - NO, balanced budget - NO, restrictive foreign policy - NO, not legislating morality - NO, state's rights - NO, and on and on.

I also love Brooks, "American conservatives had one defeat, in 2006, but it wasn't a big one." Democrats and progressives knock the Republicans and conservatives more silly than anything in the mid-'90s 'Gingrich Revolution' and he's trying to downplay the loss, while acknowledging how much farther it's going to go... can you say the sucking swirling cesspool of their wet steaming philosophies?

Brooks' self-delusion only lifts long enough to recognize the real issues at play in the US. That doesn't make him outside the movement, it only means he can recognize the willow branch before it stripes across he rear end.

"They have that sense. But they don't know what to do. There's a hunger for new policy ideas." The best part of this quote is David again demonstrating he's right in the middle of movement conservatism. It's never about policy ideas, it's about the ideas that can be sold that would put them into power. If the conservative arguments had ever been about 'policy ideas' they would have actually acted on them! Smaller government - NO, balanced budget - NO, restrictive foreign policy - NO, not legislating morality - NO, state's rights - NO, and on and on.

I also love Brooks, "American conservatives had one defeat, in 2006, but it wasn't a big one." Democrats and progressives knock the Republicans and conservatives more silly than anything in the mid-'90s 'Gingrich Revolution' and he's trying to downplay the loss, while acknowledging how much farther it's going to go... can you say the sucking swirling cesspool of their wet steaming philosophies?

Brooks' self-delusion only lifts long enough to recognize the real issues at play in the US. That doesn't make him outside the movement, it only means he can recognize the willow branch before it stripes across he rear end.

He said the f-word? I demand a Blogger Ethics Conference immediately!

He said the f-word? I demand a Blogger Ethics Conference immediately!

Pretty perceptive? This is pure careerism. He's re-writing his personal history and positioning himself to take the role of leading right-wing intellectual to arise out of the smash-up of the coming election. If the Republicans were heading for a victory in the fall, do you think Brooks would be giving interviews about how he abandoned movement journalism five years ago because it was dishonest (not "true")? No, we'd be reading about how Brooks was at the vanguard of bringing the truths of movement journalism to the MSM.

Brooks is a ball washer/court jester for rich, corporate republicans, nothing more. Taibbi has him nailed.

The Republican pundits may fall by the wayside , but the wealthy Republican PATRONS will be around until the Revolution.

They just have to find another pack of whoring con artists to advance their agenda under the veil of bullshit.

To claim, e.g, that they are promoting "fiscal conservatism" while stealing $4 Trillion out of the Social Security trust fund.

Or to claim that they support gun rights so that the American people could defend themselves against tyranny if it ever arose in the distant future -- while scrapping the Bill of Rights and creating a tyranny today.

"I have not yet seen the major think tanks reorient themselves, and I don't know if they can."

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I recall a CSpan Situation Comedy a year or so ago called "The Management Style of G. W. Bush", sponsored by AEI.

The current occupant (and AEI hero) at 1600 can't manage a morning bowel movement.

Of course Republicans are, at this point in time, fucked. Of course there are no "new policy ideas" in conservative America, because the 'new' ideas were always their Old agenda -- esentially, treat America, and the rest of the world, the same way as New Orleans was treated, and steal everything not nailed down.

Now that this hasn't worked out so well, and America's conservatives are justly blamed, Brooks is unhappy, and disillusioned.

Poor Bucky Beaver. He was such a cheerleader for the plans and acts of the necocons, such a brave supporter of Our Sainted War Leader; such a handy water-carrier for every GOP talking point emailed or faxed to him.

But now, the policies he helped to regurgitate just don't feel "fundamentally true" to him any longer. I think it's a fair statement that those policies feel very true in their effects to a large number of Americans, Iraqis, and others.

Now, finacially, and personally, he's done very, very well -- but who could have predicted that the policies and acts he supported so diligently in his writings and public statements would have all gone so badly? Poor Bucky.

"I have not yet seen the major think tanks reorient themselves, and I don't know if they can."

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I recall a CSpan Situation Comedy a year or so ago called "The Management Style of G. W. Bush", sponsored by AEI.

The current occupant (and AEI hero) at 1600 can't manage a morning bowel movement.

Taibbi has him nailed.

Word.

I am with you, Dr. Wu

Eek! He said fuck! Eek!
(Thud.) I've fainted!

Ragout...Bill Kristol is part of a new movement in journalism...bowel movement journalism...All the Feces You Need!

Oh pleasssse!

"There's a hunger for new policy ideas."

George Bush and Cheney changed the Party to the point where nobody can't even recognize any more. This neo-con BS, it's all corrupted into this campaign by projections with a good heaping helping of Liberal Hate, Thanks to Karl Rove.

What is with this unbid contracts? Where is such an act consider "conservative" when the Republican operate that loosely with taxpayer money?

It's not the party of conservative values - it's the Party of Bush. It's the party that really cares nothing for veterans, nothing for the eldely and has not eithical Christian values other than abortion issues.

The GOP had a chance to save itself with Huckabee, but of course Bush really only wanted McCain picked - because really is a yes-man. McCain is running on exactly the same crap too. Instead of telling us that McCain has convictions, he is called a maverick, which is exactly the same as saying McCain won't listen to voters any more than Bush did.

Since when do conservatives like unbid contracts?
Since when do conservatives like Billion dollar wars where there is no WMD - so we're simply over there nation building right now?
Since when do consertaive like wiretapping, torture or anything that is NOT a strict construction of the US Constitution?

Well, since Bush came along and made it his exclusive Party and not anybody elses. The conservative party doesn't even know what it stands for anymore.

It is nice to see that conservatives can admit that the movement has become intellectually bankrupt.

The conservative movement has always been intellectually bankrupt. Back in the days when Barry Goldwater used to whine about how his family's clothing business was able to provide it's employees all kinds of benefits and good pay before government mandates and unionism forced them to change it was a fraud. they were only able to be so generous he was selling a fraud. The only way they able to do that was by raiding his wife's trust fund (she was a Borg Warner heiress). It was noblesse oblige masquerading as good financial management and fair labor practices.

I can't believe there is a serious discussion going on here. Do you people read the crap that he writes? Or see the bullshit he spouts on the TeeVee? Good Lord. IF he's disillusioned its, because he can't make a buck backing the losing side, so he's positioning himself to be as far as away from the come Tsunami as possible, but being who he is he can't go too far.

"Of course, Bill Kristol has proved that you don't need to leave movement journalism when you become a NY Times columnist."

Or even learn how to research and write an effective essay.


"Of course, Bill Kristol has proved that you don't need to leave movement journalism when you become a NY Times columnist."

Or even learn how to research and write an effective essay.


David Brooks...


You're FIRED!!

(And take your Bobo with you!)

Let me suggest that modern conservatism has spent its force because it has quite simply won. In the two principal causes of the movement over the past 45 years, the Right has battled against central planning--principally the aggressive, communist kind, but also in its less boisterous forms--and against high marginal tax rates and regulatory impediments to innovation. The entire civilized world now recognizes that we were right all along, and no one now seriosuly proposes anything like a return to the past. In both of those battles we had to fight the American Left tooth and nail at every turn, to their undying disgrace and shame.

As for the modern "issues" of health care and global warming, let this Fascist Hyena give you his views based upon eternal conservative principles: whatever you do, avoid at all costs any kind of coercive single-payer system; and the current concern with "climate change" is nothing less than sheer hysteria. (In twenty years your kids will be watching muscial comdies based on this nonsense, in which Al Gore will be treated cruelly indeed.) It is idle to suggest that conservatives have nothing to say on these two issues. As always, we say: above all, do no harm.

I'm outta here.

It must be sad being living in Bobo's world, spouting and defending atavistic talking points, he's so right the Conservative movement is moribund.
It's also pathetic to see someone with golden real estate penning articles treating his audience as if it were of the same caliber as that of Fox News. I'm so glad that his colleagues at the NYT, Krugman and Herbert, dressed his a-hole down when he came out in defense of Reagan. Unfortunately, management at the NYT continues hiring dishonest and spiteful deadbeats under the banner of "conservative columnists".

Jobs I'd be willing to offer Matt:

1) Janitor at the local county jail.

2) Paper Boy - He could throw copies of his book on lawns under the sprinklers.

3) Fox News consultant - oh, wait...

Oh dear 'Danube of Thought',

I like your first paragraph. But the second amounts to a crime against my children, ages five and two.

I would that your thoughts flowed from your keyboard to God's ear. But as I pick up my Master's in Applied Physics from Johns Hopkins tomorrow evening, I will be praying for climate change wrought by greenhouse gases to become the stuff of comedy in twenty or fifty years time.

The fact of the man-made atmospheric greenhouse effect is undeniable to anyone who has spent fifteen minutes inside a car on a summer's afternoon and who has ANY insight into the quantum behavior of the Carbon Dioxide molecule. You are an ostrich, ducking your head in the dirt to make the carnivore disappear. Good luck with that strategy. I'm sure you advocate a similar stance with regard to national defense.

But don't fuck with me there, either, because I've seen active duty inside the last year. How about you?

Hugs and kisses,
Other Mike

The ideas weren't exciting, huh? Starting a war, now that's exciting! How did that turn out? Maybe "exciting" isn't the proper ruler to use for ideas.


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