Joe Lieberman on John Hagee: "Dear friends, I can only imagine what the bloggers of today would have had to say about Moses and Miriam.” But of course it's hardly just "bloggers" who are upset about Lieberman's recent antics -- polls show that such people as Connecticuters (Connecticutians?) and Jews all disapprove of Lieberman and his newfound love of rightwing nutjobs.
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23 Jul 2008 10:49 am
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"Nutmeg Staters" avoids the whole nomenclature problem, but it sort of sucks.
"Bay Staters" is a much better moniker with the similarly difficult Massachusetts.
Isn't this kind of insulting to Jews since Hagee is an anti-Semite?
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Connnecticats.
Connecticunts.
Connnecticats.
I'm confused--is Hagee supposed to be Miriam to Joe's Moses?
Because if Hagee wants to stick Joe in a basket and shove him into the nearest river, that might not be such a terrible idea.
Dear friends, I can only imagine what the bloggers of today would have had to say about Joe Lieberman and Judas.
"Dear friends, I can only imagine what the bloggers of today would have had to say about Moses and Miriam.”
So now Joe Lieberman is even projecting like a right winger?
My first response to the whole "Rev. Wright said God Damn America" flap was "wow! I wonder what the wingnuts would say about a modern day Prophet -- considering how the Prophets were wont to criticize their country -- Judah or Israel -- and to pronounce how God would damn them if they failed to pursue justice, etc."
Interestingly, in regards to Judah, one of the arguments made by the Prophets was that Judah should not deal the threat from Assyria (in upper Mesopotamia ... i.e. part of modern day Iraq) by aligning itself with one of the hegemons of the day (Egypt), and they'd also say things like "not by might and not by power, but by God's spirit". I wonder how the AIPAC crowd would react to a pundit in Israel saying (very loudly) "Israel should stop worrying about its friendship with the US and about projecting military might -- because the US has its own interests which might not be good for Israel (even if they seem to be so in the short run) and because projecting might only leads to a cycle of violence"?
Holy Joe and the religious right both should stop thumping their Bibles and actually open them and ponder what really is being said therein.
Of course, the demogogues of the religious right are more like Korach than Moses and Holy Joe himself would have aligned maybe with Korach -- so what's he projecting onto us moonbat bloggers again?
I guess it's not as clear-cut as I thought. If you Google "Hagee" and "anti-semitic" the first link you get is to a HuffPo article with this quote
"It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God's chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day..."
--Pastor John Hagee, "Jerusalem Countdown," pp. 92-93
and some similar quotes justifying or explaining problems Jews suffer as God's revenge on them for disobedience that is supposed to have occured thousands of years ago. But if I have to make my conclusion one way or the other, to me it sounds like it's implying something, like its justifying amti-semitism, saying that the Jews deserve what they get.
Connnecticats.
Dear friends, I can only imagine what the bloggers of today would have had to say about Joe Lieberman and Judas. - Garuda
... and then moonbats wonder why we Jews are concerned about left-wing anti-Semitism and begin to think the much left-leaning critique of Israel is not in good faith but rather motivated by anti-Semitism ...
Lieberman's effort to villify his critics and ignore their arguments by calling them all "bloggers" sounds like some Grampa Simpson type dismissing phonograph enthusiasts.
Fortunately, we're not far away from Lieberman's "insult" sounding absurd to everyone, as opposed to the probably 60 percent who'd react that way today.
It's pretty obnoxious that pastors like Hagee claim they can tell what God's still mad at and taking revenge for, thousands of years after the fact.
Think about that: who is he trying to pass himself off as? Why should people listen to him?
I'm still wrapping my head around Lieberman winning after he lost the primary. There really needs to be a law against that, but it probably will never happen. I guess sometimes losers win, and no one epitomizes loser like Lieberman
Lieberman has become such a joke that I almost expect to see him in one of those reality shows that feature has-been celebrities in about 5 years or so.
Show title: Over the Hill Gang
Concept: Retirement house overcrowded with cantankerous former inside-the-beltway players.
Cast: Lieberman, Broder, Carville, etc.
Hagee's view of the reasons for God's ire at the Jews is the Jewish view (or at least "a" Jewish view) for the reason for God's ire. God got angry at Jewish faithlessness and whomped 'em. Repeatedly. It's in the Bible. (Everybody's Bible. Not just the books Christians read.) If you want to locate anti-semitism in Hagee's world view, you're going to have to look harder.
You're probably not going to find it.
The reason the God is "still" angry at the Jews is because the pipeline of revelation hasn't worked so well for a couple thousand years. It is ever thus for people who worship books.
Well, for one thing, bloggers of today might point out that as far as any evidence can be found -- and so far it's zero -- there was no Exodus of Jews out of Egypt, led by Moses.
So, maybe the blogger equivalent of the day -- the reed papyrus samizdat? the Sumerian clay tablet bulletin boards -- would have pointed that out, and spoiled the future career of Charlton Heston.
It's a little late for the people of CT to decide Lieberman's an ass - they had their chance a year ago to throw him out.
What is it about CT voters? One look at Lieberman (D-Israel) and Dodd (D-WallStreet) and you know they're a bunch of morons.
But there were bloggers in the time of Moses! The Bible says that the second plague God sent on the Egyptians was a plague of blogs! So we must know...what's that?... a plague of frogs?
Oh, well that's very different. Never mind!
they are called Connecticuties
Steady Habitual Offenders?
I enjoyed "Connecticats". I wish I saw things that way growing up instead of knowing Connecticut was the birthplace of anesthesia and Hartford was "the Insurance City". City of Light? City of Broad Shoulders? We've got insurance, bitches!
Obviously, Mr. Yglesias would prefer that Senator Lieberman hang out with Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky.
So who's Aaron?
Oh. You mean other jews? Go Cheney yourself SLC and take Lieberman with you.
Re horatius
No self-respecting Jew would hang out with human turds like Finkelstein and Chomsky.
Where do you even come up with that stuff, SLC? Matt doesn't like Lieberman because of... his stance on Israel? Really? Not the fact that he's a conservative war-monger who has sold out his party? That's not even trollery. It's just fucking weird.
Andrew Fly, there are laws against it in many places, it's called double-dipping.
What is it about CT voters? One look at Lieberman (D-Israel) and Dodd (D-WallStreet) and you know they're a bunch of morons.
Lieberman is not a Dem, he is Independent.
Lieberman is not a Dem, he is Incoherent.
There. Fixed that for you.
The last poll of a hypothetical rematch shows that Lieberman would lose 51-36 to Ned Lamont. Who knew that 51 percent of Connecticut was bloggers?
I don't know what the 'bloggers' would think, but Lieberman would probably accuse Moses of negotiating with 'our enemies' and being naive.
The only Golux in the world, and not a mere device?
Obviously, Mr. Yglesias would prefer that Senator Lieberman hang out with Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky.
Posted by SLC | July 23, 2008 12:25 PM
There's just no middle ground with you is there. You have a mind tailor made for a totalitarian regime. You would have made a great commissar.
Obviously, Mr. Yglesias would prefer that Senator Lieberman hang out with Norman Finkelstein and Noam Chomsky.
Posted by SLC | July 23, 2008 12:25 PM
There's just no middle ground with you is there. You have a mind tailor made for a totalitarian regime. You would have made a great commissar.
Lieberman was subjected to an unprecedented barrage of anti-Semitic bilge by the peace-loving, fair-minded, and "reality-based" left simply because he would not toe the party line.
Hagee was targeted and smeared to obfuscate Obama's Wright problem. Hagee is a real friend of Israel and of the Jews, as anyone who is truly familiar with Hagee's writings, scripture, and Christian theology will admit. He is far from a "right wing nutjob." The "Jews" who oppose him are the kind of folks who believed Arafat was a kind partner for peace and would swear that Hitler was a beneficient social democrat, provided, of course, that the New York Times said so.
Oh, and Swan is ignorant twit, while DAS would do well to sit in on a 6th grade bible class in any orthodox Jewish day school prior to throwing horribly twisted biblical analogies about.
Eagle613,
So wanting Israel to pick a fight in which all but 144,000 Jews get killed is being a friend to Israel? So being a friend to Israel is how we judge whether someone is an anti-Semite?
Lemme guess, SLC and you would call the Edah Ha-Charedi crowd anti-Semitic? I betcha they'd say Eagle613 would do well to sit in on a 6th grade bible class in an orthodox Jewish day school. As for me, I'm not sure I trust the Biblical analysis of people who view various bits of pilpul and local minhagim of communities that are, at most 700 years old, as given to Moses at Sinai ...
Connecticutians hands down (preferably pronouncing the silent C and rhyming with electrocutions).
The "Jews" who oppose him are the kind of folks who believed Arafat was a kind partner for peace and would swear that Hitler was a beneficient social democrat, provided, of course, that the New York Times said so.
I love how someone can say something like this, which smears the majority of Jews, and then turn around and call other people anti-Semitic. You don't like the majority of Jews (I don't know of any polling on Hagee, but if only 37 percent of Jewish Americans approve of Lieberman it's pretty safe to say that Hagee won't be popular). That makes you an anti-Semite.
It's officially "Connecticuter," and if I had my way Joe Lieberman would no longer to be described as one.
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Heads in the Sand
Well, Lieberman and Hagee do want the US military to be wandering around in the desert for 40 years.
Posted by Tyro | July 23, 2008 10:56 AM