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05 Mar 2007 11:49 pm

With a little help from Glenn Greenwald, Jim Henley's been reading an old 1998 New Republic article by Condoleezza Rice's new "counselor," Eliot Cohen. It's all about how we must reject the dogmas of the past and embrace the new imperial future:

One cannot separate the so-called “soft power” of the United States–the global dominance of its culture, beginning with its language–from its military strength.

Rock fans around the world listen in English; so do fighter pilots. The same information technologies that make the Internet a decidedly American phenomenon provide the nervous systems of American military power. Free trade rests on common consent, to be sure, but would it exist absent America’s military dominance?

Henley has some fun with the apparent claim here that American popular music is popular because of our military might. It is, of course, well known that the Beatles and the Rolling Stones became so popular in the 1960s because the British Empire was then at its peak.

It's the trade element of this, however, that's truly pernicious. Cohen would like us to believe that basic commerce and prosperity require us to join him down the path where "citizen and soldier alike must brace themselves for the occasional imperial fiasco" and "accept the uncomfortable notion that they are wielding military power in a way that is historically unusual for a country that has long viewed empires with proper republican suspicion." There is, however, just no reason whatsoever to believe this. If we stopped seeking to coercively dominate the Middle East then . . . all those Japanese cars would just disappear from the dealerships? International capital flows would stop? China would shut down the iPod factories? Europeans would turn their back on Coca-Cola? I mean, yes, the US navy and allied military forces need to be strong enough to prevent pirates from ruling the high seas but this has approximately nothing to do with the imperial vision Cohen and co. have in mind.

Realistically, the imperialist conception of world affairs is inimicable to the spirit of commerce which requires us not to see politics as an endless series of zero-sum standoffs in which power is used to facilitate parasitic exploitation. In the domestic sphere, this is the difference between the mentality of the businessman and that of the gangster. Internationally, we see the trader versus the conquistador; the liberal spirit of international cooperation versus the grim gaze of the imperialist.

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No wonder neo-conservatism has its roots in Trotskyism.

There is a school of thought that holds that governments bear much more resemblance to gangsters than they do to businessmen. I forget the author, but I seem to recall he was a defensive realist. The idea is that men with guns have an interest in expanding the stealable earnings of their victims/citizens. This might involve expanding the set of victims or expanding the volume of earnings, but, in any case, government has an stake in the economic well being of the governed. Were the powers that be actually businessmen, rather than gangsters, realism suggests that they would subcontract(cf "Modern Republican Party".)

Okie dokie. First we were going to invade Iraq because Saddam had some sort of hand in September 11 involving meetings in the Czech Republic or some such B.S. (I can't really rememberit). Then we were going to invade Iraq because of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Then we invaded Iraq to spread Democracy. Now we've invaded Iraq so Justin Timberlake can sell more CDs or something? I'm sure that the families of the dead would feel that, in spite of everything, the sacrifices of their children, parents, siblings, spouses, etc, would be vindicated by this prospect.

My sense is there is an "imperial wars give meaning to the life of a nation" aspect to all of this as well. See, e.g., National Greatness.

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Realistically, the imperialist conception of world affairs is inimicable to the spirit of commerce which requires us not to see politics as an endless series of zero-sum standoffs in which power is used to facilitate parasitic exploitation.

Yes. Cohen's argument is another in a long line of just plain old shabby neocon logic; these people make sloppy, slurred extrapolations and we're supposed to take them seriously somehow. Bah. They're cheesy. We should laugh. The charitable adjective for something which purports to have a 'ring of truth' but is patently wrong is 'stupid'. The uncharitable adjective is 'con'.

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This spirit is truly dangerous, as great or really even a greater threat to our civilization than terrorism. The idea that security can only come through violent domination, never through peaceful example, will over the long run lead the human race to nuclear disaster. As deadly weaponry spreads through the 21st century, the only hope is cultivate a spirit of "live and let live". Commercial capitalism, with its spirit of mutual gain, is the best possible route to such a spirit, but here we have people like Cohen undermining it from within.

Cohen seems like a decent chap and he's workin' for Condi.

Can we see what he does first before releasing the hounds?

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I mean, yes, the US navy and allied military forces need to be strong enough to prevent pirates from ruling the high seas

Actually, I interviewed the current commander of the US Pacific Fleet a few weeks ago, and he said fighting piracy is not one of the US Navy's missions in the Pacific or Southeast Asia. He said the navies of Singapore and Malaysia were plenty capable of taking on the situation in the Straits of Malacca, and in general local navies would do a better job of fighting coastal piracy than the US can. (Given the incredible complexity of such conflicts, that's a strong argument -- a few months back some Cambodian pirates captured off Vietnam turned out to be moonlighting Cambodian customs officials, which is a confrontation one would definitely rather have sorted out between Cambodia and Vietnam than with American involvement to confuse things.)

Anyway, the big question is: if the US Pacific Fleet ISN'T fighting pirates -- what's it there for? Yes, sure, to defend Taiwan. And to help with the occasional tsunami, downed airliner, and so forth. But a Carrier Battle Group costs hundreds of billions of dollars; if what you want to do is fly in plastic sheeting after natural disasters, I know a hundred NGOs who could do it for about 1/10,000th of the cost. In fact, the Pacific Fleet would have a pretty hard time justifying its existence, if it weren't for the fact that no one can imagine getting rid of it.

Having a single global superpower that doesn't have territorial ambitions abroad is generally good for peace and commerce. The 19th Century was reasonably peaceful and prosperous because Britain had the Royal Navy bud didn't have ambitions on the European continent or in the New World. But when it got excited about conquering Africa in the 1870s, that set off jealousy among Continental powers, setting off a long series of rivalries leading to WWI.

As we saw in the 1990s, a decade of peace and prosperity that followed the Gulf War and American victory in the Cold War, most of the world would be content with the U.S. being the only country that can project power globally via aircraft carriers ... so long as we don't get pushy and grabby. When we organized a large coalition to return Kuwait to its owners, the world was happy. But when we occupy Iraq, the world gets concerned.

Apparently, when Eliot Cohen was a small child in school, he just loved the schoolyard bullies who used to beat him up and steal his lunch money. That's why he thinks America's "soft power" comes from the barrel of a gun . . .

The point is that a conservative hyperpower (the USA of Bush I and Clinton) whose 12 aircraft carrier battle groups deter anybody else from trying to alter national boundaries is one that the other 200 regimes of the world can gladly live with. But a radical hyperpower (the USA of Bush II) that frequently sets off on unpopular crusades and attempts to stir up trouble around the world is one that will eventually generate a nasty reaction from the rest of the world.

Commercial capitalism, with its spirit of mutual gain, is the best possible route to such a spirit, but here we have people like Cohen undermining it from within.

Fucking BARF.

That's the only response this shite on toast post gets from me.

You can put on all the lipstick and perfume you want but it's still a pig.
And just 'cause you put your boots in the oven doesn't make 'em biscuits.
There is not a hairsbreadth of difference between being the world's policeman and an imperial bully.
A quaint and charming notion of the US as friendly neighborhood cop is just the lie we tell ourselves to justify our greed and ambitions.
Cohen and his neocon allies are just a tad more honest about it than say the Clintonistas.
I recall in the run-up to Iraq, to answer Lefty charges that it was "all about the oil", a few of the Right's braver souls said yes and then asked what is so bad about fighting a war for oil?
It was the Gilded Age which played Brutus to our Republic and set us firmly on the path to Empire.
So raise a glass to Vidal and Chomsky, let's all have one for the road.

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Henley has some fun with the apparent claim here that American popular music is popular because of our military might.

We shouldn't forget that rock and roll is also an essential part of our military might; anyone remember the stories about blasting Manuel Noriega with loud music during his stay in Panama City? "Surrender, or we will crank up the volume."

Cohen seems like a decent chap and he's workin' for Condi.

Can we see what he does first before releasing the hounds?

If the premise is wrong the conclusion must be faulty!

"Commercial capitalism, with its spirit of mutual gain, is the best possible route to such a spirit, but here we have people like Cohen undermining it from within.

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Very articulate!

"There is not a hairsbreadth of difference between being the world's policeman and an imperial bully."

Not quite true, instead the problem is that being the so-called "world's policeman" will inevitably tempt a country into becoming an imperial bully. We were never an impartial cop, but while Russia was around we were at least predictable. Countries who could manage to identify themselves with the "free world" didn't have to worry. Now we're charging around like a crazed elephant. The shit list is pretty random, and once you're on it you can't do much to get yourself off (e.g. Syria and Iran). And if you're even in the neighborhood you have to watch out.

Cohen coined the phrase "Tactical Nuclear War". He also seems enchanted as Richard "Our grandchildren will be singing songs about us" Perle was with Strike Up The Band Neo-Naziism. Somehow they came to believe that Americans were into severed head and bloody stump raised to the sky triumphalism. There must've been a tickle-ickle uncle in each family that sodomized young Eliot and Rich with a hunk of stinkwood.

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