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Varieties of Neoliberalism

13 Mar 2007 09:12 am

Some people probably find this topic obscure and pointless, but even though "neoliberalism" sort of names nothing and sort of names everything, I think it's actually a pretty important topic. And Mickey Kaus makes an important point about it:

The word "neoliberalism," at least in its domestic context, was coined by The Washington Monthly's Charles Peters in 1978. (It didn't start, as David Brooks declared, with a Kinsley tax editorial in 1981). Recently, the editors and former editors of Peters' magazine, The Washington Monthly, had a dinner to celebrate his 80th birthday. Out of the approximately 45 Peters proteges there, how many had supported the Iraq War? My guess is no more than 8. Peters himself certainly didn't support the war. Neither did Kinsley. Monthly alum James Fallows (who wasn't at the dinner) tried to stop it with cautionary articles in The Atlantic. The war's a New Republic thing--and a David Brooks thing--not a Washington Monthly thing.

But, of course, there's more to life than magazine writers and the association of neoliberalism with the war has other sources than just The New Republic. In particular, the Democratic Leadership Council's leadership strongly backed the war as did most of its associated politicians. In his book, Ken Baer describes the DLC as something of an effort to fuse the nascent neoliberal movement with something salvageable from the conservative Democrat tradition of the South. Similarly, you might think of TNR as a fusion between neoliberalism and Israeli nationalism (and then, of course, there's Joe Lieberman who's all three). In all cases, you wind up with a similar result on, say, education reform issues but divergent results on national security issues.

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Yup.

That's the problem -- neoliberalism has been confused in the public mind with "hawkishness" when that has rarely been the case. Sure, the DLC supported the Iraq war initially, but then so did Matthew Yglesias. The New Republic and Joe Lieberman are not neoliberals, they are Israeli nationalists.

Um, Kaus is a lying maggot; anything he says should be assumed to be a lie, until proven a lie. Why can't allegedly liberal writers see that that guy is not a liberal?

One of the more annoying feature of the neoliberals is their habit of picking and choosing which consequences of their actions to accept as their responsibility. Neolibs are almost to a man (and there are very few women among them) in favor of "muscular foreign policy". The implication of this is the need to "look tough", "not lose face", and to start the occasional war. Cheney's war was perfect for the neolibs, so most of them supported it. Now that it is out of hand, they all claim that it wasn't part of their creed.

Just like Bush isn't a "conservative" anymore. Sure.

Cranky

Bush senior's lesson to Shrub on neoconservatism ("It's Israel stupid") is wholly applicable to the Peretz set.
Neoliberalism has been hijacked to become a $5 name for those left of center who are willing to equate Zionist and US national interests. The degree to which he saw the Iraq war as being in Israeli interests determined a neoliberal's stance on that question.
And increasingly neoliberalism is just a halfway house towards crypto neoconservatism, see LiberLiar.

Neolibs are "almost to a man... in favor of muscular foreign policy?" Charlie Peters? Michael Kinsley? James Fallows? You've got to be kidding. Most neolibs are into domestic stuff; the New Republic types are Israeli nationalists first, neolibs a distant second. I feel ridiculous defending them, since I'm not a neolib myself, but that's totally unfair.

Why can't allegedly liberal writers see that that guy is not a liberal?

Everyone can see that he's not a liberal; that doesn't mean he's not in possession of factual information about Washington Monthly alumni.

"Everyone can see that he's not a liberal; that doesn't mean he's not in possession of factual information about Washington Monthly alumni."

We need a fruit of the poisoned tree rule here.

If factual info comes into our possession from an unliberal sourcce, then all said factual info must be utterly disregarded and burned.

Quiet, Matthew. You'll mess up our chance to re-regulate the airlines.

Cranky, the whole point of the post is that a great many neoliberals did not support the war. That is a statement of fact. You may believe that their overall philosophical outlook logically ought to compel war support, but that doesn't mean you can convince anyone that they actually supported the war when they didn't.

I think that the general point is valid but not very important. After Dukakis's defeat the neoliberals had to regroup. Some went neocon, and some became contrarian anti-Democratic centrists calling themselves Democrats.

The one thing that moderate Democrats, moderate Republicans, and conservatives agree on is the importance of destroying the liberal Democrats and the old Democrats. Moderate Democrats show much less urgency about defeating the Republicans. the coalition has been very effective.

Neoliberals supported the war. Just because a few dissented from that view doesn't change anything. They supported the war. They are the ones getting in the way of ended the war. They are the ones who refused to prevent the President from going to war with Iran. DLC? Supported the war and don't really support ending it, or it would be ended. The New Republic? Supported the war. HIllary, Lieberman, Biden, and the rest of the neo-lib Senators? Supported the war. All the neoliberals that were in any position to do anything supported the war. I'm sorry if neoliberals hate that fact, but it's not one that can be avoidable. The so called "New Democrats" support the war, and hate everything the dirty fucking hippies do to end it. JP can stammer and protest until he's blue in the face. But he doesn't do anything but make himself look silly.

Sure, the DLC supported the Iraq war initially, but then so did Matthew Yglesias.

You've got to be kidding. I assume that's going to work for the Bush Administration officials as well, when they change their minds on the issue for the memoir.


Is there anyone who cares about the label "neoliberal" apart from the journalists who wear it proudly and those who write about them? This would be a much more interesting topic if it had more to do with politicians and policymakers, and what they do with the reins of power, but because the focus is journalism it becomes solipsistic.

Soulite,

Most neolibs that I've ever heard of did not support the war. Sure, some did -- the DLC and New Republic types come to mind -- but most of the neolib pundits that I'm aware of did not. Many of the most prominent neolibs have been calling for complete pullout for ages. Again, I can't believe I'm defending them, but it seems silly to conflate "neoliberalism" with David Brooks-style neoconservatism. They simply aren't the same (even if a few self-described neolibs are total chumps in this regard). Is Matt Y. a Neolib in your book?

The fact that Mickey Kaus occasionally utters the truth is as relevant as the fact that a stopped clock is right twice a day. He is a Vichy Democrat and he should be identified as such everytime his name is mentioned.

Neoliberals supported the war.

In that case, why don't you name them? You'll soon find that you're mixing up your terms. That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

This would be a much more interesting topic if it had more to do with politicians and policymakers, and what they do with the reins of power, but because the focus is journalism it becomes solipsistic.

Yeah, probably. All I'm saying is, a fact is a fact. Whether or not it has any broader significance.

there seems to be some confusion over the term - I would say that Brad De Long is the proto-typical neolib, but I could be way off. Anyone else?

JP can stammer and protest until he's blue in the face. But he doesn't do anything but make himself look silly.

Also, grow up.

I would say that Brad De Long is the proto-typical neolib, but I could be way off

Totally. MY's right: there are a lot more neolibs around than people seem to think. If you're talking about the non-famous, a lot of them were against the war. That the part of its subscriber base that TNR lost: the neo-libs who were--on neo-lib grounds, whatever that means--against the war.

I hadn't realized that "neoliberal" had become a catch-all term every variety of centrism, interventionsim or hawkishness on the Democratic side. Isn't it best to restrict its use to the core area of economic and trade policy, where it has a reasonably clear meaning?

Where does somebody like Paul Krugman fit in? He spent the '90s dissing the left from the neoliberal center, then the Bush Era staking out the leftmost limits of the NYT editorial page. In the process, it appears that his politics moved much to the left (more concern over inequality resulting from free trade, for example). But it's hard to tell if that's an ideological shift, or just a change of context. In general, it seems like today's neolibs, in addition to being less hawkish than the DLC, are more likely to support "big government" programs like single-payer health care than they would have been 20 or even 10 years ago. Did they all move left?

I think that both DeLong and Krugman now realize that free trade was only a mixed success. DeLong said somewhere that what they'd originally planned was a two pronged approach, free trade plus various programs helping the losers adjust, but only the free trade part went through. They're both in favor of investing in retraining and education, but the Republicans haven't been interested.

Neoconservatism previously moved from being mostly domestic policy oriented and highly empirical to being mostly foreign policy oriented and highly emotional/moralistic, so it's not surprising that neoliberalism has done the something similar. I think the interesting sociological question is what is the common factor driving both along parallel paths.

That last comment by Steve Sailer was rather brilliant. It however leaves out that neoliberals split (unlike neocons, who remained a tight-knit ideological mafia). Krugman, Delong, and other neolibs became radicalized by the Bush years and turned significantly more liberal, seeing the old liberal / neoliberal split as irrelevant now that the country had moved so far to the crazy right. Other neolibs became enamored with the whole "1939/Hitler" script for the war on terror.

What's so "neo" about NeoLiberalism & NeoConservatism? Are these two much-too-similar groups of people engaging in perpetual, childish, impotent, schoolyard name-calling while the world goes to hell something new?

Part of the confusion stems from how the term "neoliberal" is used. For me and many others, neoliberalism has little to do with being a political liberal and more with being an economic liberal. I write more on demystifying neoliberalism on my humble weblog.

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