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Copyright Forever

21 May 2007 02:23 pm

Mark Helprin's gone and done us all the service of advocating the idea that dare not speak its name: Rather than endlessly retroactively extending copyrights, why not make them last forever?

Unfortunately, he doesn't consider any of the various reasons that make this a terrible idea. Is it, for example, really such a bad thing that community theaters and schools all throughout the country (and, indeed, the world) can put on productions of Shakespeare's plays without paying stiff licensing fees? What if his heir and his team of consultants (I recommend Marsh) determined that the profit-maximizing license fee was really, really high -- something only the world's major theaters could afford, and something that they'd be willing to pay since his work is, to say the least, kind of well regarded.

Alternatively, one can imagine a world in which Herman Melville's great-great-grandson decides to release a "director's cut" version of Moby Dick and then embark on a campaign, à la George Lucas, to prevent the publication of the original version of the novel. He couldn't, of course, suppress the already existing print copies of the story which might continue to circulate, samizdat-style, for decades, but I still think there might be a problem. Melville fans and literary critics around the world would eagerly await Great-great-grandson Melville's demise and hope that his heir might be more reasonable.

You also already have an enormous problem of orphaned works, situations where nobody knows who owns the copyright to something, and where the person who owns the copyright may not even realize that the work exists. Obviously, the longer copyrights endure the worse this problem gets. Forever, meanwhile, is an extraordinarily long time -- we'd be drowning in orphaned works.

This last point is, in many ways, the crux of the matter. It would suck if my grandfather's novels -- or my grandmother's, or my dad's -- were to become orphaned in the future, or just unavailable because ownership of them passed into the hands of some jerk who didn't care about them. My grandparents are all people I know personally (or knew in the case of my late grandfather), but I couldn't so much as name all my great-grandparents.

Expecting N-th degree heirs to manage the oversight of cultural works properly is irresponsible. When things enter the public domain, by contrast, the practical impact is to put the fate of the work in the hands of whoever happens to know of and care about its existence. That, in turn, is a much healthier situation for world culture -- Shakespeare's works are whatever Shakespeare lovers make of them, which is how it should be.

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I think Matthew is generally clueless on the need for strong IP protection, but even I find Helprin's idea to be horrendously misguided.

And it's a bad idea for many more reasons beyond the valid one Matthew brings up.

IP laws ought to be strong and well enforced, and ownership ought to expire in less time than under current law, not more time.

That Helprin has books entitled Swan Lake and Winter's Tale suggests that he suffers from the kind of wingnut chutzpah that only the Claremont Institute can inculcate.

It's almost as bad as saying the constitution essentially gives the green light for sneaky ongoing term extension through 'for limited Times', i.e. perpetual copyright as long as we pretend it's not.

I don't think he goes so far as to call for actual perpetual copyright, because that's prima facie unconstitutional. He just suggests a hackish workround that utterly contradicts the constitutional intent and the case law surrounding its creation and implementation.

Eldred v. Ashcroft also suggested that back-door perpetual copyright sold to the public as perpetual copyright wouldn't pass muster. I hope the new arrivals aren't sufficiently craven to think otherwise.

Madison introduced a twenty-one year copyright term to Virginia. I like the implicit analogy in those early laws to the age of majority: once a work's grown up, it leaves home and enters the public domain.

IP laws ought to be strong and well enforced, and ownership ought to expire in less time than under current law, not more time.

Sadly, that's precisely the model that corporate rights-owners don't want, particularly when their output includes works (e.g. Song of the South) that they consider in their best interest not to re-publish. Term-extension is, in those cases, as much about the right to suppress and to create a revisionist history of production.

As for the general rule: if you don't want your work entering the public domain, don't publish it. If you want your heirs to control it, put it in a box with the instruction that only they can see it.

Helprin works from the same fallacy that the RIAA does, treating "intellectual property" as if it were physical property. This sends one down all kinds of moronic analogical roads--e.g., "listening to music without buying CDs is like picking someone's pocket".

The right to govern the use of something is not the same thing as property, and shouldn't be framed as such, because it invites these sorts of idiocies.

The problem with Helprin's article is that has so many problems, so many false assumptions and makes so many bad policy proposals that it is impossible to address them all at once and still be coherent.

Of course, this is precisely what Helprin wanted-- to muddy the waters so completely that the issue can't be debated in good faith. He merely wanted to create an avalanche of rhetorical disingenuousness.

Expecting N-th degree heirs to manage the oversight of cultural works properly is irresponsible.

Fortunately, large corporations will acquire many of the rights, and be perfectly capable of properly keeping them out of the public domain forever, as long as they can put out musical cartoon butcherings of Victor Hugo's works.

Not the least of which is the complete lack of recognition that property rights might cut in the opposite direction. Some guy sells some scribbles on a piece of paper somewhere and all of a sudden I can't play a particular sequence on my guitar on my land. Where did my property rights go?

I guess this is Halperin's attempt to personalize the right wing's "death tax" schtick--instead of evoking non-existent family farmers forced to sell the land to pay the inheritance tax, he asks the reader to shed a tear for the descendants of famous authors who are being deprived of the fortunes rightly due them. The thing is, he doesn't cite a single example to buttress his case.

It's not worth dissecting his arguments point-by-point, but he doesn't offer a single real-world reason why the current copyright law is inadequate--just some libertarian-ish crap about property rights and an assertion that slavery was once legal too, which, in this context, is about the strawest of all imaginable straw men.

Did anybody else get the impression that Helprin is espousing this policy because he is certain his works will become beloved classics, and if copyright is extended forever his ancestors will be wealthy aristocrats?

Holy yikes. That article is decades behind even the most basic discussions in IP circles. There's nothing wrong with trying to score some contrarianism points by coming out as rights-friendly, but ideally you should have novel and interesting arguments for it, rather than simply ignoring everything that's been said about the subject for the last couple centuries.

Did anybody else get the impression that Helprin is espousing this policy because he is certain his works will become beloved classics, and if copyright is extended forever his ancestors will be wealthy aristocrats?

Yup. It's a new elite with ever-expanding asses. Maybe it's good for the economy in that it'll keep the courts humming with litigious nitwits in perpetuity.

I think if copyrights exist to get people to write stuff 5 years is enough, enough for movies too. But though Walt Disney is dead, the Disney Corporation is in principle immortal...

Perpetual patents, too. That would be a great idea.

"There's nothing wrong with trying to score some contrarianism points...but ideally you should have novel and interesting arguments for it, rather than simply ignoring everything that's been said about the subject for the last couple centuries."

Yeah. OT: from time to time I feel slightly guilty about not subscribing to the print NYT. But every time I actually have occasion (in waiting rooms, bars, etc.) to read the Times, I'm instantly reminded why I quit subscribing. Pretty much everything (in any section) that's not "fawning-celebrity-profile" is "half-assed-trying-to-be-controversial-disingenuity" like the Halperin piece.

I suppose it's just envy. If I'd known twenty years ago that one could make a good living writing this kind of intellectually lazy drivel, I'd have definitely pursued it as a career.

Helprin's obviously never tried to play live music in a coffeehouse or bar or other small venue. The ASCAP stormtroopers love nothing more than to shut down those places with obscene demands for tribute -- even for songs in the public domain.

This really saddened me, in that Helprin (a very good novelist -- Winter's Tale is probably one of the best works of fiction of the past thirty years -- but a terrible political thinker and worst legal theorist) has entirely missed the point of intellectual property. The idea of IP is to serve the public, not the "author." Patents are provided for a limited time to encourage invention, then to dedicate things to the public. Copyright is designed to support the artist in creating cool stuff for the public, but not to perpetually support her heirs. And trademarks are eternal only because they are not property under the law, but consumer protection. Helprin just does not get it at all...

Spider Robinson once wrote a short story about a future congress that was about to extend all existing copyrights in perpetuity. You can guess his take on the idea from the title: "Melancholy Elephants". It's more than just orphan works and license fees that are the problem.

"That Helprin has books entitled *Swan Lake* and *Winter's Tale* suggests that he suffers from the kind of wingnut chutzpah that only the Claremont Institute can inculcate."

Think he really wants that Shakespeare fellow's heirs to sue him over the rights to "Winter's Tale"? Or just that he figures that if he steals it legally, it's his forever? You'd think he'd consider the possibility that James Madison might understand something that the Claremont people don't--say that intellectual work is collaborative by nature, and that the law needs to carefully balance rewards for originality against others' ability to build on what's come before. That's what he does, after all, by borrowing from Shakespeare.

one can imagine a world in which Herman Melville's great-great-grandson decides to release a "director's cut" version of Moby Dick and then embark on a campaign, à la George Lucas, to prevent the publication of the original version of the novel.

Who needs speculation?

Look at James Joyce's grandson: In 2004, the centenary of Bloomsday, Stephen threatened the Irish government with a lawsuit if it staged any Bloomsday readings; the readings were cancelled.

He's destroyed documents, prevented publications of biographies and other scholarly work, and appears to have done more to hinder knowledge and progress than promote it in his custodianship.

Source: http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/06/19/060619fa_fact?printable=true

Large corporations are only interested in keeping track of those things that make money - which is likely to be arelatively small percentage of printed material.

I suppose if he wants to rewrite the Consitution he is more than welcome to try.....

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries; Article 1, Section 8

[Helprin is] a terrible political thinker and worst legal theorist

So it should be regarded as no coincidence that he managed to get a position at the Claremont Institute.

I've got to say, though, I want a sweet Claremont fellowship. Who knew you could get paid for writing "Hey guys, did you know that intellectual property is unlike real property in several salient ways? RED ALERT!"

See my own post regarding Helprin's piece at www.robertkblechman.blogspot.com:

"Helprin claims that the writers of the US Constitution gave us the ability to stretch royalty payments off into some hypothetical event horizon with the phrase “for limited times.” Currently, a copyrighted work can be kept out of the public domain for 70 years. With our increasing life spans, that just isn’t enough. For example, at 56 I am at the exact midpoint of my life. If I had written a cash-generating work in my 20’s, by the time I reach 90 I would have to find gainful employment all over again."

Everything you needed to know about copyright law explained by Mickey and friends.

Awhile ago Richard Posner proposed a system where every 10 years or so copyrights would be renewable (indefinitely) for a non-negligible fee.

It was interesting mostly because it seems like the only sort of policy that would be amenable to the Disney's and George Lucas's that would still put a ton of stuff in the public domain.

Here is a link:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=319321

I suppose if he wants to rewrite the Consitution he is more than welcome to try.....

But that's what he's proposing, by claiming that 'for limited times' not only allows, but morally compels Congress to slap another X years on copyright terms every time, say, 'Steamboat Willie' looks like slipping into the public domain.

The majority in Eldred v. Ashcroft basically said that a term limit that's not explicitly 'forever' is constitutional, which at very least forces future extensions to be legislated and thus subject to legal challenge. While it's chump change to lobby for such things every decade, the best hope is a bit of Disney-mandated overreach that gets construed as de facto permanent copyright, or demonstrably suppresses access to works, and is thus thrown out. And Larry Lessig has reflected upon his own failings in pleading the case, to suggest how future challenges need to focus on the harm done by orphaning works rather than enumerated powers.

(This is also another example of how the Democrats get peeled off on certain issues, given the heft of IP-centric industries on the west coast.)

Anyway, I'd hope that the bit of Helprin that writes novels and not op-eds is dry-heaving at such linguistic weaselry.

but I still think there might be a problem. Melville fans and literary critics around the world would eagerly await Great-great-grandson Melville's demise and hope that his heir might be more reasonable.

I can imagine the murder-mystery plot now ...

Having got hit with the blunt end of the system, I have a few things to say about Mark Helprin's arguments for permanent copyright.

It's just another case of shareholders and corporate executives begging for privileges they haven't earned, don't deserve and should never be granted in a million years.

Corporate executives want government to enforce their immortal corporation's IP forever. It would be really dumb to grant them this privilege. All patents and copyrights should be limited to the natural life span of its human author or 20 years, whichever is longer.

Shareholders had nothing whatsoever to do with the creation of even a living author's work, much less that of an author who died before they were born. They simply are not entitled to a government-imposed monopoly.

The work is not theirs and they had nothing to do with creating it. If they want to profit from it, wonderful! They should compete with everyone else on a level playing field and stop begging for a government handout.

I think Matt is generally on track about IP. It would be nice to roll it back to what it was say thirty years ago. If that can't be done in the U.S., at least it can be done outside the U.S. Those people or companies that can't make a fair profit on a monopoly in a fairly small amount of time are obviously not efficient, and shouldn't be protected by the government.

The EU, I believe, requires evidence that the author or creator has tried to keep the work in circulation. That would be a nice addition to American IP law. It is odd and disgusting that IP law is moved by companies like Disney, which have depended for eighty years on the healthy freedom to take Grimm's brother's tales, or John Smith's account of Pocahantas, or the Arabian nights, and turn them into cash at the box office.

ps - didn't Halperin write some speeches for Bush? Or was it just Bush 2?

"Currently, a copyrighted work can be kept out of the public domain for 70 years. With our increasing life spans, that just isn’t enough. For example, at 56 I am at the exact midpoint of my life. If I had written a cash-generating work in my 20’s, by the time I reach 90 I would have to find gainful employment all over again.""

Or you could save and invest like every other person in America has to in order to have an income stream at 90.

The Posner idea is awful. It'd put a lot of works in the public domain that are already effectively orphaned anyway and wouldn't free up a huge number of things people would actually like to use and could create great things with. Plus, it might actually reduce the number of effectively orphaned works by making rightsholders easier to find and properties easier to aggregate into portfolios. You could end up with a reduced de facto public domain, even if you got a larger formal public domain.

note that it would also require a constitutional amendment. So...no worries.

As the author of quite a few pieces of fiction, some of which are owned by others (works for hire), I can say that Halperin's ideas are remarkably bad.

IP law (and the RIAA) already have people scared to death. Several of my recent stories have been rejected because the editors felt the work was deritive. It wasn't - it merely mentioned another novel as part of the plot, and the editor's concern is rather like labeling a story deritive of the Bible because someone named Jesus finds a copy of the Bible in a hotel room. Another editor balked on another story because I quoted two lines from a song.

The laws were originally designed to protect the creators (in the case of printed material) of unauthorized publication of their work. Unscrupulous publishers printing and selling illegal copies of your just-published book and paying you nothing for them. They weren't created to stop people from quoting a song or mentioning a famous novel and having the characters finding meaning in that novel become part of the plot.

Currently, a copyrighted work can be kept out of the public domain for 70 years. With our increasing life spans, that just isn’t enough. For example, at 56 I am at the exact midpoint of my life. If I had written a cash-generating work in my 20’s, by the time I reach 90 I would have to find gainful employment all over again.

This isn't true (is it meant to be a joke?). Current law, the Gift To Disney Act (thanks to Sonny Bono), states that a work is under copyright for the duration of the author's life plus 70 years.

So if you wrote your masterpiece at age 20 and you died at 90, the work would be protected under copyright for 140 years. Think how insane it would be if this law were in effect in the 19th century: works written in 1870's might still not be in the public domain in 2007.

By the way, prior to the 1970's, copyright protection was 28 years with a 28 year extension possible. It was changed to 50 years after the death of the author, and then Sonny's 70 years (95 years for a "work for hire" -- the corporation's little century long gift.)

Fascinating how conservatives who proclaim the myth of meritocracy as proof of the deserved wealth of our upper classes want to provide endless, unmerited wealth for their heirs.

Currently, a copyrighted work can be kept out of the public domain for 70 years. With our increasing life spans, that just isn’t enough. For example, at 56 I am at the exact midpoint of my life. If I had written a cash-generating work in my 20’s, by the time I reach 90 I would have to find gainful employment all over again."

Err, no. Works are copyrighted for the author's lifetime + 70 years.

Helprin's analogy of copyright to other property fails. A copyright is monopoly on what you have created, if I produce a widget and sell it, I have no monopoly on that (unless I have a patent). And his analysis of state power is goofy as hell, since it is a strong state power that is needed to *enforce* copyrights and patents. Goofy stuff.

I like the way Helprin waves away Madision's quaint noting that there is such a thing as a public good, and Jeffersons observation on the inefficiency of a owning a monopoly on something that has zero, or very low, marginal cost of production. According to Helprin, Madision certainly is a socialist radical slipping down the slope to totalitarianism and the horrors of communism with this notion of 'public good' so liable to monstrous misuse.

The idea of a guy who has the nerve and swank to steal "Winters Tale' and 'Swan Lake' for titles, and then go pimping for eternal and very strong monopolies over IP is a hoot. Maybe the piece was a joke. It reads that way.

two things:

1. this whole fight is the same place record labels were 5-10 years ago WRT downloadable music and where the MPAA was/is over the last few years. they balked, refused to embrace new technology and subsequently lost control of their IP. there was plenty of evidence that people were willing to get the stuff legally...if there was a way.

2. at some point, google is going to type "lobbyest" into google. i think a lot of copyright law will begin to be challenged both on the use of content in thier core businesses and also in their emerging business of trying to catalog books. i'm sure eventually they'll go for more forms of media as well. once they become good at lobbying, they'll learn how to bring people on board with them. i'[m sure libraries and educational institutions will be happy partners and though they might not have economic clout (google, et al can supply that) they do garner respect from the public.

Re: the Intellectual Property vs. Real Estate ...

Funny how conservatives, many of whom claim to be Bible-believers and who are wont to point out the religious influences on our country's establishment, in arguing that Intellectual Property should be inhereted like Real Estate completely miss the context of one of our nation's founding Biblical references:

"You shall proclaim liberty [release] unto the land [...]"

What was that liberty to be proclaimed? That the land would no longer be owned by its nominal owners but instead would revert to the tribe to which it was allotted.

So land sold to an individual can, from a Biblical perspective, only be owned by that individual and his/her heirs until the next Jubilee year (maximum span = 50 years). This is hardly in perpetuity -- and this for real estate!

Now, admittedly, the laws of Jubilee (and the Sabbatical year) were only supposed to be observed in Eretz Yisroel so long as the Temple stood -- but you'd think the legislate the Book of Leviticus crowd that wants to legislate the theocracy of ancient Israel as if this nation were the New Jerusalem would actually, well, pay attention to what Leviticus actually says, wouldn't you?

Or is it really the case that for our so-called religious right it really is all about teh sex?

I disagree with Helprin's ideas, but using the fact that he wrote books called SWAN LAKE and WINTER'S TALE as evidence against his proposals won't wash. There is no copyright for *titles* -- and despite the referential titles of Helprin's aforementioned books, the books themselves are original works which would not violate any perpetual copyright in the content of the original SWAN LAKE or WINTER'S TALE (assuming such a nightmare as perpetual copyright actually existed).

Maybe this is why he's writing the Disney line from the Claremont Institute:


Freddy and Fredericka by Mark Helprin
(Paperback - Jul 25, 2006)
Buy new: $10.20
111 Used & new from $1.04

(via amazon.com)

Certainly, the existence of copyrights is necessary to incent the production of certain types of creative works. We've seen that people will write software without it, but it's unlikely that a major motion picture (complete with all the bells and whistles we expect today) could be created without at least some limited grant of monopoly rights.

What no one has ever explained to my satisfaction is why this has to last more than a decade or so. Let's face it; when Hollywood greenlights the latest summer blockbuster, they don't give a shit what sales will be like in 10 years. They are concerned with what it will bring in at the box office and the first year or two of DVD releases. Anything beyond that is gravy. If a film isn't worth making with 10-year copyright, it won't be worth making with 100-year copyright.

Realistically, the same analysis applies to music and literary works. If music is still listened to, or a book is still read, after a decade, then surely it was a big enough hit that the creator has already made a substantial profit from his royalties during that time frame. It's not like we have a shortage of aspiring musicians or authors, after all - quite the opposite.

And all this ignores the fact that the people who own the copyrights usually are not the people who created the works in question. In fact, they're usually not people at all, but gigantic corporations. Halperin invokes the plight of Sylvia Plath's descendants. Well, The Bell Jar is still copyrighted under existing law, so the problem here obviously isn't that the term is too short. Rather, it's that authors and musicians simply lack bargaining power against studios and publishers. Extending copyright does nothing to help them with this fundamental issue.

I suspect that the DMCA and the Mickey Mouse term extension act are the high water mark of US copyright law. Members of the younger generation tend to take a far more skeptical view of copyright than their elders, and to have a higher degree of concern about the issue. The existing copyright laws aren't quite as unpopular as the 55-mph national speed limit, but they're getting there.

Think how insane it would be if this law were in effect in the 19th century: works written in 1870's might still not be in the public domain in 2007.

Quite. In fact, American publishers built up an independent business on the basis of cheap reprints of British works whose copyrights didn't apply in the US. The motivation behind Charles Dickens' first reading tour of the US was to appeal for the recognition of British copyrights (and to make some money from an audience that had been enriching his American publishers).

using the fact that he wrote books called SWAN LAKE and WINTER'S TALE as evidence against his proposals won't wash.

And indeed, he makes a similar point to distinguish between 'ideas' and 'works', which is a self-inoculation against his Shakespeare-inspired plot in the latter. But given the current trigger-finger against derivative works, would such a novel pass muster from a publisher's legal department?

It's not used as evidence: the piece has enough logical holes and historical untruths to cover that requirement. His piece includes both a hacktacular misrepresentation of eighteenth-century literary profession and a weaseling of the Copyright Clause that would make Madison puke. It's an ironic observation on the absorption of creative works into the public consciousness.

And picking up on the Blog Maven of Philly:

Unlike the recent Fonteyn/Hyman version (HBJ) that faithfully recounted the famous ballet, Helprin's Swan Lake, while retaining some of the details of the familiar story, enlarges both its plot and vision.

From Publishers' Weekly: sounds pretty derivative to me.

I say that when I stake out a sanitary sewer, everyone who uses it should pay my heirs and assigns whatever royalties they feel like charging, forever and ever and ever. After all, the calculated location of those manholes and pipes is my innalecshural propity, just like Disney's crappy annoying little rat, except ten million times more useful.

After Freddy and Frederikca let's just hope Helprin doesn't make another attempt at the Great American Novel. That was more than enough, thank you very much.

Society doesn't get enough return on most IP to justify paying to enforce the holder's rights. Consider the portfolio of Barry Manilow, just as one example. Let the rights holders pay royalties for us to enforce them and I'll reconsider. Or maybe they should have to defend their rights by an arm wrestling match.

Ditto to what mw said about Spider Robinson's story -- it actually provides an excellent illustration of the problems of infinite copyright. He has made it available online for free:

http://www.spiderrobinson.com/melancholyelephants.html

"There are eighty-eight notes. One hundred and seventy-six, if your ear is good enough to pick out quarter tones. Add in rests and so forth, different time signatures. Pick a figure for maximum number of notes a melody can contain. I do not know the figure for the maximum possible number of melodies--too many variables--but I am sure it is quite high.

"I am certain that is not infinity."

btw, it won the 1983 Hugo Award for Best Short Story. Worth a read.

There's a good argument, given modern technology, that we shouldn't have *any* IP. Works should enter the public domain as soon as they are published. Payments should be made to the authors or creators in proportion to the popularity of the work, but without requiring individuals who want to consume the work to pay exorbitant monopoly prices. There are numerous ways to do this, either through systems set up by government or by the private sector. Look at Dean Baker's ideas on this, or Boldrin and Levine's work, or there are other proposals floating around as well. How hard would it be technologically for everyone to pay a lump subscription sum into a pool, and then compensate creators out of that pool in proportion to registered downloads from the common stock of IP?

We are really unimaginative to up with the incredibly cumbersome and harmful system of invention incentives, when there are so many other ways to provide incentives for creativity. It shows what a hammerlock established interests have on the system.

Forgot to cite William Fisher, the Harvard law professor, who has the proposal perhaps closest to what I was talking about above.

mq at May 21, 2007 9:20 PM:
"How hard would it be...." But how many would subscribe if there were no property rights to the works? But I will look up the names you mention. Patents and copyrights are very crude tools. But seems like they're the only feasible methods yet invented to reward the often very high costs of creation, while not permitting grotesque inefficiencies and injustices of perpetual monopoly power when costs of distribution are close to zero.

Does anyone seriously believe that "Lara Croft Tomb Raider" is the kind of timeless classic that should entitle the great grandkids of Angelina Jolie's little munchkin to a lifetime of unearned luxury?

Of course not.

Triple that for the great grandkids of the shareholders of the movie studio, who didn't have a damn thing to do with creating that "art" in the first place.

Meanwhile, I see by Atrios that the RIAA wants radio stations to start paying royalties. If that doesn't make you want to go out and download some free music...

Eric U.,

You've got it right. The protection of the copyrights is a special privilege that society grants to the holder, that is done in order to grant society a return. It is not an inherent right of the holder's that society is obligated to provide. There is no reasonable expectation of any IP in nature or in market economics. I've no particular knowledge of IP law, but it seems to me that the basic difference, that Helprin misses is that in order for you to make money off of IP you need to get me to pay you money to put a copy of it into my head.

The problem then is that in order for you to enjoy copyright protection you need to control the use of the copy in my head. You don't have any inherent right to do so. The upshot is that being an author, or writing songs and the like is not naturally a very profitable enterprise. Society, through government, artificially makes it more profitable in order to derive some benefit to society in general.

"Intellectual property" is one of the great framing successes of our time. The term didn't exist 40 years ago.

As an IP lawyer (and thus both biased and knowledgeable!) I can assure all of you that IP law is completely screwed up. That said, getting rid of patents, trademarks and copyrights is asinine -- they serve a useful purpose -- but adjusting the laws slightly would both encourage innovation and permit a larger dedication of works to the public domain. Copyrights should last for the life of the author or twenty-five years, whichever is longer. Then, they should go away forever. That way, authors can enjoy the fruits of their labor but without putting a burden on future generations. Corporations should not be permitted to extend the term of copyright indefinitely. Fair use should be expanded, so that postmodern art (ranging from collage to hip hop) is permitted as transformative art. Software patents should be radically scaled back, with a very short time frame (perhaps five years). The right to parody under the trademark laws should be expanded, so that there is no question that "enjoy cocaine" in the Coca-Cola script form was permitted. Do those things, and most of the problems with IP vanish. IP isn't the problem; corporate interests who don't understand new technologies are the problem.

IP Guy,

Your suggestions seem reasonable to me (altho I'm also sympathetic to the more radical Dean Baker approach -- probably there's not a single best IP regime for all types of creative work.)

But my question is, why do you assume that any creative work has a single, individual author? There's a certain strain of populist leftism that criticizes the extension of rights from natural persons to corporations, but it seems to me that since all sorts of activities are carried on by organizations rather than individuals, that kind of extension is pretty unavoidable.

lemuel pitkin: It might be a good exercise in reality to acknowledge the real producers of intellectual property - people - rather than pretend that corporate enterprise is not actually done by humans. It's a difficult concept, I know, but somebody (or some people) in a corporation comes up with an idea or work. The corporation can certainly require that its employees or contractors license copyright to the corporation (since the corporation may have made the resources available for the idea to have materialized), but why pretend a corporation has a brain?

Lemuel,

Corporations own the rights of authorship of their employees, or of works made for hire, within certain guidelines. The same rules should apply to corporate ownership as apply to individual ownership. If the right belongs to an organization because an employee of that organization created the work, then the scale of those rights is based on a similar scale, but without endless extensions of the copyright term like you have today.

And that's key: Helprin's piece was a shot across the bow for the next push to extend the copyright term. You can be assured that more will come soon. Ironically, only a move in the other direction can truly improve the fortunes of the creative class.

I'd like to ask Helperin who would own the copyright to The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Scholars have gone through the work and discovered that it's a fabric of borrowings. Shakespeare's Hamlet is probably the 10th version of that tale. We wouldn't have 90% of Shakespeare given Helperin's fantasy of how art is produced. Absent The Tempest, Midsummer Night Dream, and a couple of others Willie was a cold-hearted thief when it came to plot. The same with Chaucer and Boccaccio. If copyright and derivative works were enforced the way Helperin would like we'd have no movie like The Big Lebowski (which is largely Warner Brothers movies + "fuck"). Or more ironically due to the way Joyce's heirs manipulate things, there would be no "Ulysses".

Helperin's an idiot. And pernicious. Originality in art and literature is in the minds of lawyers and scoundrels. But I repeat myself.

Jeffrey,

Hey, I resemble that remark!

"Perpetual patents, too. That would be a great idea." Posted by Jeffrey Davis

Exactly my thoughts, imagine the wonderful world we could be living in if every automobile engine must be purchased or licensed from Mercedes-Benz and is used only in our Nicolas Joseph Cugnot build auto. Where we all use AT&T Princess phones, where the Univax is the leader in of computational equipment. And that Philo T. Farnsworth Television is sure swell.

Corporations own the rights of authorship of their employees, or of works made for hire, within certain guidelines. The same rules should apply to corporate ownership as apply to individual ownership. If the right belongs to an organization because an employee of that organization created the work, then the scale of those rights is based on a similar scale, but without endless extensions of the copyright term like you have today.

I've written four novels under the work-for-hire model. I was not an employee, but the corporation "owned" the setting in which the works were written. When hired to write the novels, I was "given" a one or two sentence idea of what they wanted to see. I wrote the novels in their copyrighted setting (when I say setting, I mean something like the Star Wars universe, but my novels aren't Star Wars novels), but they are my stories, written entirely by me. Still, I don't own the copyrights. They are, in fact, officially licensed fan fiction for which I am paid a substandard royalty.

This is the world of corporate control of art. When corporations produce art, they only do so under conditions of absolute control, which is made possible by work-for-hire law. Work-for-hire law should either be abolished, or the corporations should actually be forced to employ the workers.

Err, no. Works are copyrighted for the author's lifetime + 70 years.

They are now. But the guy you are responding to said he's 56 years old and wrote a work in his 20s. Unless he means very late in his 20s, it was written before the 1976 Act took effect (Jan 1, 1978), in which case its term is 95 years from date of publication. (That's including the free bonus extension of 20 years all live copyrights were given in 1998).

The solution to Helprin's problem is to turn his IP into real assets if he wants his progeny to become members of The Lucky Sperm Club. How hard is that? All he has to do is 'monetize' his work and sell it -- all or part -- to some corporate or private interest (private equity firm like KKR?) and cash out, trading variable income stream (royalties on extant work) over the life of the copyright for cash up front. Then he can buy buildings, land, cattle, etc for his ungrateful children & grandchildren to inherit. Plus he can keep writing until his ink runs dry. Lather, rinse, repeat...... David Bowie did this some years ago with his music royalties, selling them for about $50M to an investment bank, with the stuff becoming grade-B 'bond' material.

Helprin no doubt resists this because he might be shocked at how low his cash-out value might be, especially when the only buyers would be corporate sharks (bankers & Disney, et al.) By the way...what did Disney pay to Hans Christian Anderson's heirs for the right to ravage The Little Mermaid? Is an Italian family anywhere richer because of the cartoon version of Pinochio?

I don't get too exercised about the expanding provenance of copyrights when it comes to art and creative work (It's sort of painful to put 'Lara Croft's' Tomb Raider in this category), though I see the serious problems with indefinite copyright. It gets really scary, though, when you move toward corporate copyrights on products of nature, agriculture, and the like. These sorts of expansive copyrights have a devastating effect on third world countries and they're just inherently ridiculous. Carving up the bounty of the earth and claiming this piece and any like piece is MINE because I did some inconsequential modification to it is perverse. This is 'Brave New World' territory. Long-term copyright is massively appealing to corporate elites because it means they can make money forever and ever without doing anything. What could be better?

Uh, Warren, just to clarify -- copyrights are not on "products of nature, agriculture, and the like." You're thinking of patents. Patents cover inventions, copyrights cover original works of authorship, and trademarks cover indications of source or origin. So, while things may be screwed up in other ways, your fine on copyrights being used to protect gene sequences.

IP Guy is correct and knows way more than I do, but I will add that copyright is relevant to most published scientific, industrial, and medical research -and there have been access problems to that for poor countries. Not sure how much of that problem has been addressed through voluntary agreements with big publishers, though.

IP Guy,

Thanks for the correction!?! Yeah, for some reason I had the two concepts intertwined in my head. Kind of embarrassing.

Not sure how much of that problem has been addressed through voluntary agreements with big publishers, though.

I used to work for a medical journal, and there was a push then (6-7 years ago) for them to make their articles available on the Web for free after about a year. Several of the big publishers, like Blackwell, were going to go with it.


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