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26 May 2007 01:05 pm

National Journal had a cover story last week that seems to have gone offline that saw America in decline. Ross Douthat had some doubts. Wending to a pragmatic third way, I think the salient point is that America's been in relative decline for a long time. As Robert Keohane points out in After Hegemony, the real "unipolar moment" came in 1945-46 when the United States accounted for something like half of world economic output, had a monopoly on nuclear weapons, and much of Europe and Asia was rubble.

Writing in the late 1980s, Paul Kennedy observed that both the USA and the USSR were experiencing relative decline and that the world order was shifting from a bipolar one to a multipolar one in which Japan, China, and a consolidating Europe would all play more prominent roles. What Kennedy missed, of course, is that the USSR was about to enter an extremely acute period of decline. Thus, from 1989-1993 or so, the #2 power declined so rapidly relative to the #1 power that America's continued slow-but-steady relative decline was masked.

This led to the Clinton years, where the United States played the role of hegemon, but did so relatively cautiously. Neoconservatives spent eight years fulminating that Clinton was being too cautious and missing the opportunity of a world-historical lifetime. In March 2001, Charles Krauthammer explained:

In the liberal internationalist view of the world, the U.S. is merely one among many--a stronger country, yes, but one that has to adapt itself to the will and the needs of "the international community." That is why the Clinton Administration was almost manic in pursuit of multilateral treaties--on chemical weapons, biological weapons, nuclear testing, proliferation. No matter that they could not be enforced. Our very signing would show us to be a good international citizen.

This is folly. America is no mere international citizen. It is the dominant power in the world, more dominant than any since Rome. Accordingly, America is in a position to reshape norms, alter expectations and create new realities. How? By unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will.

There was certainly folly lurking somewhere in that column, but it wasn't in Bill Clinton's caution. Green Lantern foreign policy has merely proven that Clinton had this right. We're stronger than anyone else, but not nearly so strong that it doesn't benefit us to play nicely with others.

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In about the year 2020 (more or less) china's GDP will be equal to ours (and at that point, I expect that the foreign language of choice at schools and in the business world will change from English to Mandarin).

Americans seem to understand demographics of the world, and yet they cannot accept messages that their current reign as superpower ought to be questioned. It is far easier for political leaders to talk about our responsibility as world leaders than to say that it will not last.

Actually, a primary propagandist for the multipolar future idea (after cold-war bipolarity) was, oddly, Henry Kissinger.

More Robert Keohane! Please! Brilliant stuff.

What Krauthammer, et al., never understood is that as the primary hegemon, we are in THE BEST POSITION to aim multilateral institutions in directions we favor. Thus the criminal folly of paranoia vs. the International Criminal Court, the Law of the Sea, and yadda yadda yadda. These people have been squandering our big moment to set the course of international institutions for decades into the future....

"Accordingly, America is in a position to reshape norms, alter expectations and create new realities. How? By unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will."

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen those idea laid out so baldly. Creating new realities through will alone. It's really quite breathtaking.

Is it any wonder that I, among others, always refer to Charles as Kraphammer. If he is this stupid about foreign affairs, I can only imagine what a jackass he is at his real profession(The one he has a degree in). I'd hate to be sitting on his couch. I'd be more messed up than when I went in.

Charles Krauthammer suffers from delusions of grandeur and it seems he has been projecting his delusions to USA at large.

You have to be deluded to think USA will be a superpower Empire forever. We just need fancier weapons and invasion/occupation of evil countries to teach the world who is the boss. This is the thinking of Krauthammer/Kristol/Kagan.

I remember Clinton saying in an interview that someday USA will not be the most powerful nation on earth as power shifts to China and India. He said when that happens we will need an international system in place to protect USA as well as our allies, which is why we need multinational insitutions, for our own good.

As Empire USA was probably at its apex immediately after WWII. It entered a decline stage in the 60s and has been declining ever since. All Empires eventually decline. USA is not an exception.

Krauthammer, as smart as he believes himself to be, doesn't seem to realize that once you adopt a policy based on the principle, They shall all fear our might!, it pretty much rules out any other policies that might work better in specific situations. In dealing with non-rational actors, for example.

"By unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will."

BTW, what is with the neocon obsession with "will"?

It must be the favorite word of Krauthammer/Kristol/Kagan. They use it as panacea for everything. Terrorism? Will. Insurgency? Will. Civil war? Will. Missile defense test failing? Will.

They seem to think they can make 2+2=5 with enough will. They can alter the rotation of the planets, all that is needed is will.

It's like he watched Dr. Strangelove and didn't get the joke.

It's like he watched Dr. Strangelove and didn't get the joke.


Krauthammer is in a wheelchair, I think he not only gets it he revels in it. Kinda like Clarence Thomas goes way out of his way to out-do everyone on writing crazy apologia for civil rights violations. What he writes is influenced by wanting to piss you off more than it is any sort of sane analysis.

If you have a crazy uncle sitting on your front porch who fires random gunshots at passerby, you should not be surprised if a few bullets come flying back through your door. Or maybe that your house burns down one night.

Krauthammer and the Neocons can be so aggressive because (a) they never get within 1000 miles of an active battlefield and (b) they are such petty small people in real life that their egos have to over compensate when they are safe --in an office behind a computer.

I suspect that in his youth, a few kids bitchslapped Krauthammer --made fun of him -- and he's never came to grips with that experience. He's still trying to prove that he's not a wimp -- provided he's in a physically safe environment of course.

I wonder if we cound render his ass to some family in Baghad who's lost relatives. Let him preach his "Triumph of the Will" to them.

The U.S. should be very grateful that power is based on material realities and not on force of will. After all, when it comes to real strengths, we're #1, if not so overwhelmingly so that we can arbitrarily reorder reality. When it comes to strength of will, though, well, I don't think we're bad, but I don't think we really have stronger wills than the guys who produced Mohammed Atta et al.

Folks need to remember the display of will Albright and Clinton showed in bending the UN to their will in the 90s. This included keeping Rwanda genocide from goingto the UN, circumventing Boutros-Ghali to begin bombing of Serbia (using Kofi Annan), booting Boutros-Gali the next year (it took seven ballots in the Security Council; he was apparently everyone else's first choice) and bombing Kosovo. James Rubin, then Albrights assistant, praised the UN for choosing, in Annan, "a secretary general able 'to understand the importance of co-operation with the world's first power.'"

All of this was pretty heavy-handed, and involved altering, ignoring or trampling various precedents and principles. If it was really still too multilateral for Krauthammer, that tells us something -- or, it would tell us something, if we did not already know it.

Dan Tompkins

"I don't think we really have stronger wills than the guys who produced Mohammed Atta et al."

of course not: because you liberals keep sapping our precious bodily fluids!

God, guns and guts gave Mohammed Atta the will he had, and it can work for America, too!

But no: with your communistic free press and your refusal to admit that Christ is the true leader of our country and your wimpy insistence on human rights and whining about torture, you won't let us be as great as Mohammed Atta was.

The low-hanging fruit here is that Rome didn't really dominate the world. China, for example, hardly knew about it, and it never decisively defeated either the Parthians or Sassanids.

Caesar Augustus left the Roman Empire with a system that appreciated limits, suggesting its borders then should not be expanded, though they were at times, usually for short periods. Incidentally, he also suffered what historians believe was a significant military defeat when he tried to conquer what is today Yemen.

I disagree with the cosmic sweep of this analysis, Matt.

Yes, we've been in relative decline since 1945, in some sense. But never has the decline been steeper than in the Bush years.

Our military is weakened and tied down to no purpose, our budgetary situation is near catastrophic, and every other country in the world is eager to minimize our impact.

Yes, in the long run, all great powers decline, but that doesn't mean that we can't do things that put off or hasten that decline.

The Bush era has been a disaster for US interests. There is no analogy to any other postwar US government. We have to look to the Depression and Civil War eras to find a president who might be as bad as Bush.

(I count Bush as worse than Buchanan or Hoover because he created his own disasters, rather than mismanaging response to crises; but the Depression and Civil War were more calamitous for the average citizen, so reasonable people can disagree).

BTW, what is with the neocon obsession with "will"?

I dunno; it there any concurrent obsession with triumphing?

It's really too bad that Charles K never read Tom Sawyer. It really makes for a grave misunderstanding of the world.

China will never a hegemonic super power. It is too constrained by geography and demography. Its one child policy will leave it with two retirees for each worker. China will get old before it gets rich.

With respect to geography, China is surrounded by small countries that are no fun to invade (e.g., Mongolia, Vietnam, Afghanistan) a rival emerging power (India), and a sleeping first world superpower that mopped the floor with China in World War II (Japan). Even if U.S. power declines, a natural alliance of the U.S., India, Australia, and Japan could check a militaristic China.

'America is in a position to reshape norms, alter expectations and create new realities.'

Well, Krauthammer sure was right on this statement. Seven years ago, who would have thought that torture and unlimited detention without charges, rendering prisoners to Syria, etc. would become the norm? That after the 2006 Bush would alter expectations by doing the OPPOSITE of what the voters wanted with the surge? To ignore/abuse allies, unilaterally violate treaties, ignore world opinion?

And boy, the reality that is Iraq and the Middle East today are definitely a new reality created solely by the US.

Somehow, I don't think all of the above was what was intended by the original statement, however.

We just didn't have strong enough 'will', I guess.

...folly lurking somewhere...

here it is:

...unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will.

WILL. The strength that made the 3rd Reich - 'that would last forever'. (Not to mention Imperial Rome).

This use of the word 'will' isn't just a hope, but a determination to use force of any magnitude needed to impose an outcome.

Just the use of that word sends chills down the body and across the mind.


We're #1 but if we can't be anymore then were taking everyone down with us.

In about the year 2020 (more or less) china's GDP will be equal to ours (and at that point, I expect that the foreign language of choice at schools and in the business world will change from English to Mandarin).

Why, exactly? The language of choice up to 1945 or so was French. This did not have anything to do with any kind of French political or economic dominance. English is a) one of the most spoken languages in the world, and the native language in the US, Canada, the UK, and Australia, among the more important countries in the world; b) closely related to the languages of most of Europe and Latin America, and already widely spoken there; c) widely spoken in many other parts of the world, notably in India, which has as many people as China.

I think English's worldwide dominance is likely to last for a while yet. There are almost no second language speakers of Chinese. There are more second language speakers of English than there are native speakers.

Military spending by the United States very nearly exceeds that of the other countries of the world combined. That means that the United States need fear no attack by another state. Combined with still unparalleled wealth, it also means that the United States can, if it uses it resources wisely,often induce other states to conform to its desires.

Until 1991, the power of the United States was largely balanced by that of the Soviet Union. Since then, no other state has the capability to make the United States think twice before taking action. That is why in 2003 it thought once and tasked itself with resolving a civil conflict that to which its military means are not suited.

Still, to view as declning the power that bestrides the world like none since Rome is an absurdity.

Clinton wasn't really more multilateral than Bush; the real difference is that Clinton -- like Ford, Carter, and Reagan -- avoided potentially costly ground wars.

Clinton didn't wait for UN authorization to intervene in Kosovo; neither did he assemble a vast coalition to use military force in Iraq. The main difference between him and Bush in these interventions is that Clinton did them from 15,000 feet and there were no American casualties. After the Blackhawk Down battle in Somalia early in his Presidency, Clinton eschewed committing ground troops.

Matt how(Ur last point aobut nicely with others) ? surely everything that's gone wrong in iraq would have gone wrong if every other state in the west had given it the all clear- it's got nothing to do with UN approval and a lot to do with other things- eg the opinion of liberal democracy of most muslims, sectarian tensions ect ect

Military spending by the United States very nearly exceeds that of the other countries of the world combined.

Yeah, spending to the tune of $500 billion a year, more than 12 times the entire annual GDP of Iraq ... and yet the US is entirely unable to accomplish its objectives there.

That means that the United States need fear no attack by another state.

No, the Atlantic and Pacific oceans ensure the US's safety. The half a trillion dollars "defense" budget is simply a worthless sinkhole.

"Relative decline"? Sure. How could we not go into relative decline from 1945-46? At that point, the rest of the developed world had just been devastated by unimaginable war, and we were in sole possession of nuclear weapons. Anything other than the rest of the world being wiped out by an asteroid or falling into a dark age would constitute "relative decline"...

But as for the period of 1980-2000, I'm not sure the U.S. was in "relative decline." The economic stagnation of Europe and Japan, the collapse of the Soviet Union, and a steadily-growing U.S. economy meant that in 2000 we had a lot more relative power than in 1975.

surely everything that's gone wrong in iraq would have gone wrong if every other state in the west had given it the all clear

You misunderstand the point, which was not that we should have got everyone to approve us doing something stupid, but that doing something everyone thinks is stupid is probably a bad idea . . .

I think Dr. Krauthammer has spent too much time watching Leni Riefenstahls' movie, "Triumph of the Will."

Ah yes, the triumph of the will. Funny how that seems to ring some kind vague kind of bell. I mean, kinda obvious, you'd think, for anyone with a reasonably competent undergraduate education. You'd think with a name like KRAUThammer you'd be fairly sensitive to such references, if only because of grade-school razzing. Maybe less so since when I was growing up--showing my age I guess. But it is truly amazing how stupidity has been elevated from an embarrassment to a badge of pride and an explicit qualification for advancement.

The true enemy of conservatives is not liberals or "Islamo-fascists." It's the cerebral cortex. Lobotomies for all!

In the liberal internationalist view of the playground, the playground bully is merely one among many--a stronger kid, yes, but one that has to adapt itself to the will and the needs of "the playground community." That is why the Fifth Graders were almost manic in pursuit of multilateral treaties--on Indian burns, golden swirlies, games of slaps, lunch money. No matter that they could not be enforced. Our very signing would show us to be a good recess citizen.

This is folly. The playground bully is no mere recess citizen. He is the dominant power in the playground, more dominant than any since kindergarten. Accordingly, the bully is in a position to reshape norms, alter expectations and create new realities. How? By unapologetic and implacable demonstrations of will.

if he is a dope, he must write for the Washington Post ("dopes R us"). too bad the Domanech hiring fell through. then we could have dopes from one end to the other,24/7.

Our economy was dominant in 1945, but not our military. For much of the Cold War, the U.S. and friends was outnumbered by the Warsaw Pact armies in Europe, and may well have had to turn to nuclear weapons to stop an invasion from the East.

Today, American accounts for almost half of the world's military spending.

No, the real peak of American dominance was likely about January 1, 2002 after the victory in Afghanistan, when we had the respect and sympathy of much of the world. The beginning of the decline was probably Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech in early 2002 enumerating Iraq, Iran, and North Korea as an axis. Calling them allies struck many around the world as a bogus justification for unneeded wars.

Military spending by the United States very nearly exceeds that of the other countries of the world combined. That means that the United States need fear no attack by another state. Combined with still unparalleled wealth, it also means that the United States can, if it uses it resources wisely,often induce other states to conform to its desires.

The main flaw in this argument is the 'unparalleled wealth' bit.

The US vaulted past a Europe that decided one economy-destroying war in the first half of the twentieth century wasn't quite enough to ensure its decline. Its fading is quite different in character.

Kennedy's thesis may have taken a few knocks after the collapse of the Soviet bloc, but it's looking a lot better today. The USSR's decline was bound up with a cash-haemorrhaging and ultimately futile displays of power that in earlier times would have been unnecessary.

"Reshaping norms, changing expectations, and creating new realities" is largely a matter of persuasion. We can declare that we are the world leader, but we can't actually lead humanity unless the rest of the world is willing to follow. Unfortunately, caring about what the rest of the world thinks is anathema to many on the political right in the United States.

Krauthammer is one nasty, stupid schmuck. For America to display implaccable will, or whatever the hell it is he wants us to display, we'd have to be a country of one. Instead, we're a country of 300,000,000 wills and more. (Lots of us are of 2 or more minds about issues.) Since he's Jewish, you'd think he'd be a bit leery of anything that echoes "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!" But there's no accounting for bad taste. Gwarsh, it's almost as if he'd have willingly swapped places with Adolf if he could have picked the victims.

Re: This did not have anything to do with any kind of French political or economic dominance.

France was the most populous country in Europe, and certainly one of the wealthiest. It dominated Continental politics from the days of Louis XIV until its defeat by Germany in 1871. It also presided over a worldwide empire second in size only to Britain's.

I really don't see China or India emerging as a power comparable to the US in the next 50 years. Both of these countries are extremely poor in the scheme of things and lack many of the functioning institutions necessary to be a truly dominant power.

I actually believe the U.S. will continue to be the dominant power in the world, both militarily and economically if we avoid the reign of the stupid people as embodied by Bush II and his court jesters like Krauthammer. The U.S. has a huge population, a great geographic position, massive resources, a highly educated populace, tremendous technological capabilities, and institutions like the military that tend to be pretty good in engaging in self criticism when things go wrong. I just don't see where China and India can begin to compete in any of these arenas. A united Europe could theoretically do so in the economic sphere, but has little appetite for projecting military power.


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