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04 Jun 2007 10:00 am

From the laugh or cry file, comes today's Fred Hiatt column, which to understand properly you need to recall that Hiatt spent years and years insinuating the opponents of the Iraq War were all obviously pacifists or isolationists and probably hated America and freedom besides. Then he reads Barack Obama's Foreign Affairs article, sees that Obama is not an isolationist or a pacificist, and concludes that Obama has the same views as Mitt Romney and his views are also "strikingly similar to Bush administration policy."

Absolutely every point of comparison Hiatt sees between Obama and Bush/Romney, meanwhile, would apply equally to John Edwards or Hillary Clinton. Obama wants to reform the UN! Obama wants to secure loose nuclear material! Obama wants "to defeat al-Qaeda" and says he'll build an alliance to do so! Apparently, there are no foreign policy disagreements between any mainstream political figure in America!

In essence, Hiatt is under assault from straw men of his own devising. Having mischaracterized the opponents of the Bush foreign policy, he's now confronted with what such opponents actually think and concluded that they don't oppose Bush's policy at all. But there's obviously a huge difference between the Bush/Romney approach of defining the United States as locked in endless combat with an amorphous and endlessly-growing set of frightening Muslims and saying you're going to dedicate serious energy to focusing on and targeting al-Qaeda. These aren't just different things, they're opposing sentiments. So, yes, the range of debate from Edwards/Obama to the Bush Republican mainstream is certainly circumscribed, but there are still large and meaningful differences here.

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In related news, the politics of George Bush and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are "strikingly similar" because they're both belligerent right-wing crazies who politically profit by inflaming tensions.

If you can't tell the difference between Muslims and al-Qaeda, then the policies look alike. Perhaps that is Hiatt's problem.

Hiatt can imagine that Bush and Obama have the same foreign policy because Bush doesn't actually have a foreign policy. You can imagine that an empty vessel contains anything-- just don't try to get any nourishment from it.

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The crucial question here is whether or not the Bush/Romney foreign policy is the same as LL Cool J's foreign policy.

hiatt's ignorance is on regular display, and yet donald graham continues to sign his paycheck. i know what i conclude from that.

Sounds like the Democrats need to be saying that they are going to focus 'like a laser' on Bin Laden.

On the Iraq front we simply do not know how bad the situation is. Certainly it is going to continue to look a complete mess as long as the US makes plain its intention to continue the occupation indefinitely.

A new administration which began by making it clear that its genuine objective was to end the occupation and withdraw all military support by the end of the first term would start with a real advantage. There are very few players involved for whom a civil war is preferable to an equitable settlement.

Neither Iran nor Saudi Arbia want a civil war festering on their borders and neither wants to get dragged in. Iran could not care less about ensuring the division of the oil spoils continues to favor the Shi'a.

So I guess this means Hiatt was an idiot all this time rather than a liar. Neato.

Sounds like the Democrats need to be saying that they are going to focus 'like a laser' on Bin Laden.

I don't see how that's a win, since ObL is almost certainly in the Waziristan quasi-state, and charging into there seems likely to upset Pakistan's already precarious state. It's perfectly reasonable to slam Bush severely for missing prior opportunities to capture or kill ObL, but nowadays the cost/benefit ratio of going after him seems pretty steep.

I'd like to see a Dem advocate something like the old Cold War containment strategy, emphasizing a general withdrawal from SW Asia. Unfortunately, the Israel-first bloc wouldn't allow it, and our Saudi "friends" would probably sabotage it by distributing more Jaguars among various Beltway players. Still, it'd be nice to get the idea out there....

huh... i guess Obama wants to double guantanamo as well?

Ahmadinejad is a right-winger now? How, exactly? Is he advocating lower taxes and more personal responsibility in Iran? His domestic policy, from what I've heard of it, seems to be more along the lines of a socialist/populist autocrat like Chavez.

Well, without buying into Hiatt's screed for a second, there does remain a question for Obama:

just exactly what does he intend to use that expanded military for?

Ahmadinejad is a right-winger now:
- he substitutes religious, magical thinking for reason
- he substitutes his wishes for data
- he inflames millions w/ stupid policy justified by appeal only to his god
- he leads a country filled w/ people smarter and more modern than he is

(When exactly were conservatives in favor of personal responsibility? Didn't that policy end three decades ago, about the time conservatives stopped worrying about spending & taxing our unborn grandchildren?

Well, without buying into Hiatt's screed for a second, there does remain a question for Obama: just exactly what does he intend to use that expanded military for?

Well, if the U.S. ever finds itself in a position in which defeating and rebuilding another small country actually makes sense, it might be nice to have enough troops to do so successfully.

Under Fred Hiatt Washington Post editorial page reads like the Wall Street Editorial page. I remember his editorials in the run up to the Iraq war. Day after day he smeared opponents of the war as pro Saddam, soft on terrorism, delusional. He wrote several very nasty editorials about Al Gore accusing him of supporting Saddam.

And don't forget his editorials dismissing the case against Libby and arguing that Valerie Plame was not covert.

Fred Hiatt is just another unhinged neocon.

When I started reading Hiatt's op-ed this morning, my first thought was, "This is idiotic in so many ways, it's hard to know where to start." My second thought was, "Hiatt was Atrios' WotD yesterday - bet he makes it two in a row." Which he did.

Not exactly blinding insights, but I thought I'd share anyway.

Tell Fred that Obama doesn't worship the Angel Moroni.

If you're in favor of a strong American military THAT means that you believe that publicly stoking paranoia is not only a sane policy, it's the only sane policy.

Wow, what a newsflash. Drop Dead Fred is an idiot.

Anyone see the YouTube clip of Hiatt being DP'ed by Trantor and Gigolot?

Focusing on OBL is really bad policy, if he turns up dead (which I already think he is) then you're left with no foreign policy.

The same rule applies to Hiatt that applies to the rest of the swine:

The people who lied us into this war, and who have lied us through this war, will *continue* to lie to us.

sglover, I like this comment: "It's perfectly reasonable to slam Bush severely for missing prior opportunities to capture or kill ObL, but nowadays the cost/benefit ratio of going after him seems pretty steep." This expresses a reasonable default assumption among the D.C. elite about the limits of American power. Unfortunately, ithis is in conflict with another D.C. assumption - that American military strength can shape any situation to America's, or at least the elite's, liking. It is interesting that what the U.S. CAN'T do is usually just left out of the discussion about american foreign policy. Thus, it is hardly ever commented upon that of the three countries that did have stong connections to Al Qaeda pre-9/11, we only attacked the weak one - Afghanistan - paid off the crazy one - Pakistan - and pretended not to see the totalitarian one that is the basis of our 'democratic' policy in the Middle East - Saudi Arabia. We simply couldn't afford to do much to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. We had to bargain and hope. And such is the life of all nations.

Just once, it would be nice to see some media person asking, what can't we do in the Middle East? If, in fact, it is impossible to crush a reinvigorated, and by all accounts, financially booming al qaeda in pakistan, that means we will either have to negotiate with them or we will have to pretend everything is great until another low intensity attack is mounted on some easy U.S. target, at which point our elite will have to find another smokescreen to send up so that we can pretend we are all powerful, while not actually being able to do anything.

The delusion of American power is, after all, what is at stake in Iraq. Myself, I think the U.S. became irrelevant in Iraq around the time of the attack on Najaf in Spring, 2004. The attempt to wipe out Sadr went comically awry, not only exposing American hypocrisy (about the democratic process, about freedom of the press, about the division between the judicial and the executive branches of government) but American impotence. Since then, we've gone from irrelevant to baleful, but we have never really had the power to do even the bad things Bush and Co. would like to do in Iraq. They might want to 'steal' Iraq's oil, but it doesn't look like they are ever going to be able to do it. Just as I think, in the end, the U.S. will have to back down about Iran's increasing influence in the Gulf.

The belligerent crazification and the blazing straw men are reason enough to love the guy, but the best thing about Fred Hiatt is his severe case of anterograde amnesia. The man lives in the now, making bold proclamations that are effortlessly forgotten a few weeks later when he makes a contradictory bold proclamation.

The CIA is dragging its feet on key intelligence to undermine the case for war! No, wait, it's the CIA's fault that we went to war! No, wait...

Any columnist who can lose an argument to his own straw man deserves our respect. Here's to you, Fred Hiatt. Thanks for helping the Post be such a valuable part of the liberal media... no, wait...

American impotence.

I don't think "impotence" is the right word. "Boredom" is closer. Our national aspirations have become limited to destroying enemies real and imagined. We have perfunctory shopping lists of Good Deeds -- paint schools! build hospitals! -- but they exist largely as PR and as rewards for political supporters of the current regime. What we are, as a country, is terminally bored with anything other than making money and killing enemies. That boredom cannot be stressed too heavily.

What we are, as a country, is terminally bored with anything other than making money and killing enemies. That boredom cannot be stressed too heavily.

So sad and so true....

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