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Eric Alterman Fought The Law

03 Jun 2007 09:59 pm

And, it seems, the law won.

UPDATE: Eric's side of the story is a bit long for the front page, but it's here below the fold and from CNN's report:

Ok, here's what happened.

I came to New Hampshire with the Creative Coalition for a panel tomorrow morning and was supposed to be in the auditorium for the debate but because I am a journalist, they were told I would have to wait in the spin room. When I got to the spin room, which was an empty gymnasium, I noticed that there were chairs located on a balcony above us. So I went up there--no one asked me for my ID or anything--and went over to the bar and asked if it was a cash bar, because I had no idea what kind of event it was. I was told it was an open bar so I asked for a glass of wine and a glass of water and went to sit down and wait for the event to begin.

A guy came over and asked me who I was and I told him I was a colmunist for The Nation and he told me I had to leave. I thought he was kind of rude, so I asked him his name, thinking it might go into Altercation the next day. He refused to answer me I asked again. He refused again. But I was following him out when he went to get a cop. The cop told me to leave the room and I did. We left the room, past where the people were handing out badges to go into the reception and I figured the entire drama was over. But the cop kept yelling at me to leave. I didn't understand. I thought I had left. I asked him to stop yelling, I had left. He kept telling me to leave. In retrospect, I guess he was kicking me out of the building and I didn't understand, but it was really mystifying and annoying and I told him I wanted to speak to his commanding officer.

We went over to the commanding officer and I, calmly and politely, sought to explain that I didn't know why this cop was continuing to hassle me. The first cop kept interrupting me as I tried to explain myself and finally I turned around and said, "Can I please finish a sentence here?" That's when the first cop decided to arrest me. He handcuffed me behind my back and took me outside.

(A funny aside, Congressman Ed Markey happen to walk by then and came over to say hello to me and stuck out his hand for a shake. I had to say, "Sorry, Ed, I'm being handcuffed." He laughed, and told the officers that he would vouch for my character and walked away.)

Anyway, I never refused to leave and the only time I raised my voice was when the first cop would not let me explain what I had thought was a massive misunderstanding to his commanding officer. Once I was arrested and brought to the Goffstown station, I actually had a pretty nice time with the cops there, who were very friendly and understanding of my situation. When they learned I was a writer and planned to write about this incident, they wanted to make sure that I knew that the cop who had arrested me was not one of theirs, but was from another town and had been working on an "reciprocity" arrangement.

I paid a $30 to be released and the whole thing took about 45 minutes. I filed a written report with the police explaining that I thought the arresting officer had treated me unfairly, and I do think this was the case, but I now think it was based on a misunderstanding on just where he wanted me to stay and where he wanted me to leave.

In any case, I spoke to CNN and I believe they will correct some of the misimpressions created by their first story. Just to be clear, I did not refuse to leave seven times and I did not, as far as I know, raise my voice, except for that last time.

For the record, I also don't remember anyone reading me my Miranda rights, though I don't know if that is ultimately going to matter. I have a court date in July but I am hoping to be able to clear it up before I leave tomorrow because it strikes me as mosty, a misunderstanding.

ps, the Goffstown cops went a lot easier on me when I told them I was a Met/Sox fan, and a Yankee hater to the core...

So there you have it.

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Comments (39)

Detectives believe alcohol was involved.

For a laugh, check out Alterman's class reviews on Rate My Professors.com (under Brooklyn College).

His Napolean act doesn't go over so well with the kids (who are, btw, very left-leaning as a rule).

Let's ask Bush to issue a pardon.

Check out the threads at http://bloggingheads.tv/video.php?id=296

where Alterman just happened to have done a diavlog with Conn Carroll. :) Maybe we can get Eric to describe what _really_ happened on his next bloggingheads.tv appearance!

"When Presidents Lie," according to the copy I have.

Those comments at http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=508487
are really rich. Click the link for more.

Eric just wrote Atrios and TalkLeft to explain that this was all a big misunderstanding:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/6/3/222955/3025
Eric also claims that Congressman Ed Markey offered to "vouch for his character" if needed. After vouching for President Carter, Eric should feel proud.

". A police officer was called after a verbal altercation ensued"

LOL.

"nonono, your honor, there wasn't an altercation, I said I write Altercation. It's my blog. On a website."

Is it cos he is black?

I guess this is another chapter in the "Eric Alterman is a dick" book. I had a friend like Alterman once, he (my friend) got arrested a couple of times over small stuff just because he gets belligerent. Alterman raised his voice, asked to see the cop's commanding officer, interrupts the cop to ask like a dick if he can finish a sentence, etc. Of course the cop shouldn't have arrested Alterman, no reason for that, I'm just saying that if he wasn't a dick this wouldn't have happened.

C'mon, man, how can Alterman be a dick? Look at all the famous people he says he knows!

Alterman is such an egomaniacal douchebag.

Is Eric being persecuted again because he's a lesbian?

You've got to love his trying to take advantage of the open bar, but I'd have a little more respect for him if he was caught trying to order a triple bourbon.

"asked to see the cop's commanding officer"

After, according to the version I've heard, asking the officer's name, and not getting an answer. Perfectly reasonable response for anybody not practicing to be the subject of a police state.

Okay, have I missed something, or is there a particularly weird animus for Alterman out there? People keep tossing around terms like "dick," and I'm not entirely sure why. He doesn't seem any more arrogant/condescending/whatever than your typical blogger/pundit; he's just taken potshots for a lot longer than most prominent center-left bloggers have - because, as it turns out, he was actually right on stuff like the war from the start, back when the Sensible Center was telling everyone to shut up and go to war. Maybe if Alterman initially supported the most disastrous foreign policy debacle in living memory and hobnobbed with a clutch of amoral libertarian weirdos who want to gut the welfare state, he'd be less of a "dick"?

> Okay, have I missed something, or is there
> a particularly weird animus for Alterman
> out there? People keep tossing around terms
> like "dick," and I'm not entirely sure why.

On the one hand, Alterman is a reporter who job is not only to stick his nose where it doesn't belong and ask obnoxious questions, but to stick his nose where it doesn't belong and ask obnoxious questions /of other reporters/. Sort of the essense distilled if you will, but that is his job and he does it well.

On the other hand, even for a guy holding that job and doing it well he seems to get into a lot of these confrontations. And the next day there is always a write-up on his web site about how cool, calm, and reasonable he was and how the other guy got overheated, unhinged, spittle flying, etc.

Well, in the case of Joe Klein I believe Alterman. But every single time it happens over the 3 years I have been reading his blog regularly? That starts to strain belief a bit.

Cranky

Cranky:

Even if every one of Alterman's various dustups were to be counted against him, would that make him a "dick," or "an egomaniacal douchebag," as the commenters in this thread have called him? The term I would use would be "confrontational." Maybe "irritating" or "intrusive" - but isn't he, as you pointed out, supposed to irritate and intrude? Those are descriptions of a style. What most people here are doing is judging a person - and, it seems, applauding his being dragged out of a press event by a cop - because they don't like him personally. I'm trying to figure out where this comes from, because I'm betting most of these people don't know him personally, and yet I'm also betting most people who read (and comment at) Matt Yglesias's site are relatively liberal. And yet another liberal - one who has been consistently more right on the issues than the proprietor of this blog - is getting some seriously weird vitriol.

Would I like to go camping with, have as a professor, spend the rest of my life with Garance rather than Eric - erm, yes.

Do I think that Eric is cutting through the BS, getting to the point and intellectually superior to Garance who seems to be so absolutely terrified of rocking the boat in any way that all we get is vague establishment chit-chat - that too.

This whole "who would rather have over for your sunday bbq" attitude is what got Bush elected in the frist place and totally irrelevant to substantial political discussion.

oops, here's the link:

http://bloggingheads.tv/video.php?id=242

Okay, have I missed something, or is there a particularly weird animus for Alterman out there?

Yes.

Of course the cop shouldn't have arrested Alterman, no reason for that, I'm just saying that if he wasn't a dick this wouldn't have happened.

And if you've ever had business with the cops in towns like Goffstown, you know what Alterman was up against. You always take badge numbers, and always ask to see a superior officer with them, because otherwise they're going to do whatever they want to. I'd be surprised if they did Mirandize Alterman. Their usual beat is hassling drunks from St. Anselm's.

These four-men-and-a-dog departments are worse than any big-city department for "I AM the law" behavior. Something about having an IAD, and a local media besides the weekly shopper keeps them professional, and halfway honest.

I like Christmas's position: he's got the right positions on the issues, so how could he be a dick?

"I like Christmas's position: he's got the right positions on the issues, so how could he be a dick?"

I share Christmas's position. I like Alterman, so he's just confrontational to me.

I'm sure there are folks on the right who you agree with, and thus forgive their excesses, Al...

Someone who doesn't back down to a cop probably is a stubborn asshole. They are excellent at using social cues to make it clear that society expects you to obey them and if you don't you're being intransigent. (I bet they really hate it when a Member of Congress mocks their decision of who to arrest.)

Alterman's style is to be a dick?

Someone who doesn't back down to a cop probably is a stubborn asshole.

That's right: insisting on your rights in the presence of an authority figure makes you a stubborn asshole.

I read recently (was it in Harpers?) of another prof. who was arrested, essentially for asking what was going on with police in front of an appartment house he owned (and involving one of his tenants) and advising the tenant of his rights.

I understand the challenges police face, but arresting people for being loud and/or simply demanding to know what's going on or essentially exercising free speech rights is inexusible. I can't imagine our Founders saying "Congress shall make no law restricting free speech or freedom of assembly, but they can arrest you for being an asshole" -- they were, pace the "political discourse shouldn't be so coarse" crowd that seems to desparately need more fainting couches, if anything, very pro you-have-a-right-to-be-an-asshole. AFAIK, their conception of liberty had very little to do with what we consider to be liberty but rather more to do with having a right to be a complete jerk-off (e.g. to your slaves, to people who would otherwise say you have certain obligations, etc.).

Not that I necessarily support 18th century ideas of liberty over generally superior 20th/21st century ideas, but still -- whatever happened to your right to be a complete ass and not get arrested (consider e.g. arrests of people at rallies and demonstrations and/or requiring such to have "permits" -- gah! how unconstitutional!) unless there was an actual, um, crime involved ...

These four-men-and-a-dog departments are worse than any big-city department for "I AM the law" behavior. - Davis X. Machina

Even the most good hearted of small town sherrifs will happily arrest someone for illegally dumping garbage in a dump -- and make a big court case out of it, c.f. Alice's Restaurant.

Anyway, Alterman does seem to be a bit of a stubborn egomaniac sometimes, but the world needs his kind to, as others have pointed out, cut through the b.s.

Re: "...but the world needs his kind to, as others have pointed out, cut through the b.s."

I agree. I read his blog regularly, and one thing I like about it is that he doesn't let go of things that bother him. For example, the way he keeps trashing Andrew Sullivan for his post-9/11 behavior. The fact that Sully got the vapors for a couple years is no excuse for some of the really unfair and demagogic stuff he wrote back then.

I'm an easygoing guy, and would just brush things like that off. But, we do need people who get pissed off and resentful, if only to keep other people honest.

Das, in Alice's Restaurant, they didn't illegally dump trash in a dump. They illegally dumped trash on top of trash somebody else had previously illegally dumped. Guilty as hell, and the song makes that fairly clear.

I think people call Alterman a dick because he is one of these very blunt New Yorkers. But here's the thing - I don't think he expects anyone to back down from their point, just to be able to support it. He puts his side of things out there and expects others to do the same for themselves. But he also expects a good supporting argument, not just posturing. While he is usually dealing with politicians and other members of the press, this time it was with a cop. But just because the guy is a cop, doesn't mean that Alterman is suddenly some shrinking violet.

He expects people to stand up for themselves intelligently, and doesn't apologize when he stands up for himself. If you're blunt enough about it, people will think you're a dick.

That's right: insisting on your rights in the presence of an authority figure makes you a stubborn asshole.

It does. Anybody who's ever insisted on their rights in the presence of an authority figure knows this.

The "Alterman's a dick" argument has nothing to do with his political positions, or his combative style of column-writing. Alterman seems to be a dick because he keeps getting into personal spats where he comes out looking like a dick. If he was a plumber instead of a pundit, it would be the same thing.

Alterman may be an asshole. But any cop that thinks it's his right to arrest you for requiring him to give a reasonable explanation for why you have to leave a media event you are authorized to attend is a much bigger asshole and deserves to be treated poorly.

Maybe Alterman's a d-bag because these are the d-bags taking his classes:

"Steer clear journalism students...especially right-wingers!He is so liberal,he'd make Jacques Chirac sick!Doesn't teach anything & has an attitude problem.Very arrogant.Horrible ethics...his commie partisan books & web blog are required reading.What garbage.Worst professor on the face of the Earth!!

4/14/05 Journ 1 1 1 4 emoticon_unhappy flag Republicans 1, Alterman 0. Keep crying, little girl. Maybe you should call Al Franken and the two of you senseless clowns can hold hands, eat bon bons and wonder how my boy W drowned kerry. Oh and his class sucks. If you're republican, I recommend taking it to piss him off as was said below."

Jacques Chirac a leftist benchmark!? Ooh boy, maybe he is an awful teacher.

But seriously, whether he's a bad teacher or person is beside the point. Much like Barry Bonds, if he keeps hitting home runs, I love him. Alterman's media criticism is the most consistently incisive and astute around. He is fearless and fearsome. If he's pompous and arrogant, that's just so much armor to tilt against these giants and dragons dressed up as hillocks and windmills. And man, I've been in this situation before, and am unapologetically obnoxious, and still managed to get away unarrested. He must be a real stubborn coot; thank god for that!

Scamming my way into open bars at media functions is something of a hobby of mine, so I have some sympathy for Alterman. But Eric, dude, when they tell you to leave, JUST LEAVE. "I'm sorry, thought this was the green room, my mistake." When VIPs are in the building, the cops don't mess around.

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