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Political Liberalism: Political not Metaphysical

13 Jun 2007 08:59 am

In both his initial article on Richard Rorty and in his reponse to my original criticism posted on this blog, I continue to feel as if Linker is misreading Rorty, John Rawls, or both. Linker says we should be Rawls-style "political liberals" whose liberalism isn't intrinsically tied to any comprehensive metaphysical (or, in Rorty's case, anti-metaphysical) view and that this vision is preferable to Rorty's. I say -- and, crucially, Rorty says -- that this is Rorty's vision.

Linker concedes (in his response) that Rorty says his view is the same as Linker's. But Linker thinks Rorty is confused. He thinks he's a Rawlsian but, in fact, in "his ideal world, everyone would be . . . just like Rorty -- denying the existence of capital-T truth, treating metaphysical commitments with moral and intellectual suspicion, and so forth." By contrast the pluralist position merely "demands that all citizens affirm liberal principles within the sphere of politics -- like, for instance, that individual rights (in some sense) exist and deserve to be protected by the state -- but it is indifferent to (most of) their views in other areas of life."

Here's where I think the confusion sets in. Rawlsian political liberalism is indifferent to most of people's views in other areas of life. But Rawlsian political liberalism doesn't say that individual people -- especially including political liberals in good standing -- must be indifferent to the comprehensive views of other. It's not as if in Rawls-land the priests and imams and rabbis and art critics and yoga instructors of the world are all supposed to stop offering opinions about good and evil, beautiful and ugly, because "hey, we're political liberals, we're indifferent to that stuff."

The goal is to hive off an autonomous political domain in which we bracket our views on broader, deeper questions and engage one another on the basis of a much-shallower but more widely held set of views about the conception of a citizen.

Where Rawls and Rorty diverge is that Rawls, at least in his published writings, actually is indifferent about the "background culture" questions about God and truth and beauty. He doesn't work in those fields. He's not saying nobody should work on those questions, he's just saying he doesn't, that one doesn't need to do that stuff in order to do political philosophy, and that one shouldn't appeal to that stuff when conducting political arguments. Rorty, by contrast, isn't indifferent. He's a passionate advocate of secular humanism and anti-foundationalism in the background culture, and also a political liberal in the political domain.

If Rorty's aspiration that his background views might someday gain universal adherence makes him a bad liberal, then we're going to have to conclude that essentially every even-vaguely-orthodox Christian and Muslim are also bad liberals. That, however, clearly can't be what Rawsl was trying to put forward.

John Holbo has a different take on this, taking issue with what he calls Rorty's "rhetoric of anticipatory retrospective." I agree that this gets to be a somewhat annoying tick and I think John's conclusion that "his one tool – preaching conversion by preaching the meta-possibility of conversion – is unsatisfactorily limited in a number of ways" seems about right. On the other hand, it seems to me that very few people have had a huge degree of success in advocating for the sort of American social democratic vision that Rorty espouses. After all, if anyone was wildly success at this, it would be a very different country.

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After all, if anyone was wildly success at this, it would be a very different country.

Yes. It would be Denmark.

Tic.

I think that we can now see that liberalism is in a lot of trouble when a large proportion of the citizenry (in the US, 20-30%) is strongly committed to certain kinds of dogmas. In theory a liberal state could act as mediator between a large number of different beliefs, but this only works when no one group of believers is determined to attain domination and feels capable of doing so. If there were a lot more Rortians in the US, and a lot fewer Bible Christians and nationalist authoritarians, the American liberal system would be a lot healthier. (Copied from earlier thread).

The Dutch Republic pioneered religious pluralism, but one of the things that made that possible was the existence of a large group of "Anythingists" who were willing to be either Protestant or Catholic as long as people left them alone. (This reminds me a little of Swift's caricature of the dispute between the Big-end-ians and the Little-end-ians.)

According to Toulmin (Wittgenstein and Vienna), when the Catholic Church was reimposed on Protestant Vienna and Bohemia, the result was the very passive acceptance of a very cynical Catholicism. This works too.

At a minimum, liberalism requires that all major factions give priority to public liberalism over the illiberal aspects of their private belief. If major factions disagree (Weimar Republic) liberalism is doomed.

The Strauss-Schmitt dialogue was about this. The Weimar Republic was destroyed by illiberal factions, but the the lesson Strauss and Schmitt drew was that liberalism was not good.

As far as I can tell, Straussians would support the authoritarian repression of inappropriate points of view among the citizenry if they were in a position to do so. (But not illiberal points of view -- Straussians themselves are anti-liberals.)

Linker is making a stronger claim than the one you are attributing to him. I don't know enough about Rorty to know if he is right.

Rawls view is that a certain degree of political liberalism must be accepted to function in a liberal society, but that the deeper issues can be left to be settled on whatever basis they are. You both seem to agree with that.

You are attributing to Linden the view that Rorty thinks that he is right about allof the other metaphysical and epistemic issues and so that Rorty would hope that everyone, presumably in the name of accuracy, would come to accept those views. But Linden, in his response to you, is actually attributing a stronger view to Rorty which is that ultimately acceptance of his pragmatism is necessary for being a citizen in a politically liberal society. I have no idea if Linden is right, or on what basis Rorty would believe that, but it is a very different claim than that Rorty would try to convince people of his view because he thinks it is the right one.

I want to underline John Emerson's point. Rawls himself assumes that political liberalism is only possible in polities in which a commitment to political liberalism outweighs other commitments. Rawls admits in Political Liberalism that he has no answer for a society in which a large group is dedicated to imposing their dogma on everyone else.

Oh, and Matt, the Rawls you are describing (indifferent to metaphysics) is the Rawls of Political Liberalism. He took a much more strongly rationalist line in A Theory of Justice. There's some question as to whether it was necessary for Rawls to make that shift - something Nussbaum implies with her "essentialist liberalism."

"...we're going to have to conclude that essentially every even-vaguely-orthodox Christian and Muslim are also bad liberals. That, however, clearly can't be what Rawsl was trying to put forward."

Why not? Rawls certainly thinks that religious citizens who don't jibe with the "overlapping consensus" are crappy liberals. In addition, he also argues that any religious citizens who don't want to bracket their beliefs around the dictates of something called "public reason" are bad liberals. Rawls is far from indifferent to religion - his whole project is concerned with circumscribing and managing it.

In this way Rorty is more up front and honest about the role of religion in his political theory, simply because he recognizes more firmly than Rawls that political states rest directly on political cultures.

Liberal Christianity is Christianity that has learned to live with liberalism and science. It's a specific development within Christianity. (Reform and Conservative Judaism are similiar). Some forms of non-liberal Christianity can coexist with the liberalism (Hisids, Amish), but some forms can be a serious challenge to liberalism.

In a pragmatic spirit, I would query Damon Linker thusly: What if I don't care what my fellow citizens in our liberal, pluralistic polity believe and do on their own time and in their own lives--but I can't help noticing, when I overhear them and face their judgmental attitudes towards me (the endangered species of atheist humanist), that they professedly would erase me, and the public space that enables me to continue my endangered existence, if only they were in a (plurality/critical-mass) position to do so? And why should I remain indifferent to that--why, when the concurrent culturally psychotic wars on drugs, homosexuality, medical research, and womens' control over their own bodies and destinies, to name just a couple of concerns, are already warped noticeably beyond anything civically rational or morally acceptable to a liberal pluralist? Mr. Linker, I ask you....

Having read Linker, I think that he's wrong to describe Rorty's liberalism as "pure negation". Rorty often spoke of the virtues of liberal societies.

I think that liberals (not just Rorty) does have the tic of presenting the liberal point of view as a sort of non-point-of-view, while requiring other points of view to justify themselves. This is just "assuming the default", and can only be done by someone in a position of power ("possession is nine points of the law".)

Liberalism does require some positive ideas about equality vs. hereditary superiority, the value of individual freedom, the superiority od reason and science to divine revelation, etc.

IM IN UR PHILOSOPHEEZ HAXIN YR LEEBERALIZMZ

The last thing one expects after a noted thinker's death is a hatchet job. In contrast to the lite fare in most of the major news outlets' obituaries (all of which read as if lifted directly from "Trotsky and the Wild Orchids"), TNR decided to go the old literary journal route with an attempted takedown. The problem with that scenario, however, is that Linker's criticisms feel forced (foisting on Rorty liberal intellectual authoritarianism is a bit of a stretch, for instance), or, worse, uninformed. I think that the utter mishandling of Rorty (or of any other philosopher, for that matter) in the course of a larger debate about political philosophy is the one area where the predictive and descriptive power of his thoughts function most like a science.

That's right--liberals make tolerance a requirement and are deeply, increasingly concerned with the consequences of having a lot of intolerant neighbors who seem to be spoiling to NOT have to tolerate us. Don't Tread On Me. Life Free Or Die. Why are we even discussing some kind of moral equivalency between tolerant liberals and intolerant foundationalist fanatics of whatever persuasion? The former want to live and let live, and they want to impose that (pluralistic, liberal, antifoundational) value as a public value; the latter must somehow live with the incongruence between having to live and let live when their belief system tells them that their One True Way is the best and only way, and that they must suffer all of us infidels if only because they cannot prevail over us and erase us. So Richard Rorty is somehow equally a threat to liberal order as Ferry Falwell and James Dobson? How's that again?

I'm not sure what other tool is available to pragmatists who wants to speak to non-pragmatists. Rorty's "annoying tic" is annoying because he again and again tries to reach out (and I think it is the "again and again" part that is annoying, really). But you know, the promise of Truths clearly is attractive (and the success of Newton's mechanics admittedly justified this belief for more than 2 centuries) although it is clear from the last 100 years or so that we don't need them to understand the world. Today, the concept of Truth is as useful for science as the concept of Intelligent Design, and both can probably be understood as expressions of similar authoritarian social-psychological processes.

"latter must somehow live with the incongruence between having to live and let live when their belief system tells them that their One True Way is the best and only way, and that they must suffer all of us infidels if only because they cannot prevail over us and erase us. Richard Rorty is somehow equally a threat to liberal order as Ferry Falwell and James Dobson? How's that again?
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Oh hell, and here I thought you were referring to Islam. James Dobson really wants to erase you?

Yeah, carol, James Dobson wants to erase me--trust me on that one. Erase me, or convert me. And the point is, I don't want to erase him--I'm just concerned that he won't leave me alone.

And while I am deeply concerned about Islamic terrorism, I'm not at all concerned about Islam's potential to itself take repressive forms in the American polity--just as I'm not at all concerned about the guys who drive the Mitzvah Tank.

Liberalism does require some positive ideas about equality vs. hereditary superiority, the value of individual freedom, the superiority od reason and science to divine revelation, etc.

Emerson is right, and I would just add that it's rather peculiar to argue that liberals don't believe there are facts on the ground that support these claims.

If divine revelation had correctly named the atomic weight of plutonium to five significant digits, we might have a very different appreciation for it. (Revelation, not plutonium.)

elle loco,

Sorry, but I'm not inclined to trust you. Dobson doesn't want to "erase" you. He just hopes you'll come around to his way of thinking. By wishing he would leave you alone, you're hoping he'll come around to your way of thinking.

It's called difference of opinion, in worldviews, religion, or otherwise. Dobson's not planning car bombs or jihad. That's real erasure.

If changing your views is erasure though, well, then it's clear you certainly want to "erase" Dobson.


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