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Michael Bay and the National Security State

11 Jul 2007 03:58 pm

Steve White at Tapped sees in Transformers an apologia for militarism grounded in Michael Bay's close relationship with the defense-industrial complex. To which I say, eh. In purely ideological terms, Bay's oeuvre doesn't carry much of a message. The invasion of Cuba in Bay Boys II is egregious beyond belief but Transformers is, I think, basically sound.

Obviously, the film is soaked in enthusiasm for military hardware. On the other hand, the threat from the Deceptacons is quite real. Meanwhile, until the climactic battle with the Deceptacons, the tension in the film within the "good guy" camp. Mostly, the paranoia of the national security apparatus -- represented by the chief of Sector Seven and the guys who want to imprison Bumblebee -- versus the correct liberal view that we need to widen the circle of allies, distinguish between good and bad alien robots, etc. Similarly, the Autobots have a minor conflict between the more hawkish Ironhide and the more dovish Optimus Prime on the subject of killing humans, in which Optimus' more pacifistic stand gets a positive portrayal. All-in-all, I saw a balanced, patriotic, security conscious liberalism not the run-amok nationalism and militarism of the Bush-era GOP.

UPDATE: If you're interested, you might want to read a blog post on this subject from John Rogers, who has a story credit on the film in question, though I genuinely don't believe that the views of members of the creative team should be given special weight on these issues (he agrees with me, basically, but authorial intent is still irrelevant).

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Also, did you notice the Secretary of Defense actually picked up a gun and shot up the bad guys? A jarring, deeply unrealistic note in an otherwise wholly-faithful-to-reality movie.

I also liked how Megatron was a bit of a social Darwinist. I also liked how this film combined a sympathetic portrayal of both individual American soldiers and individual Arabs. It was also probably Michael Bay's first actual fun movie, in part because everyone actually knew this time it was very cheesy.

we can go right to (one of) the screenwriters for his opinion on this.

the internets makes everything flat!

of course, Bay does include that racist remark regarding Iranian scientists

Decepticons.

Well, I have heard that Transformers are more than meets the eye.

I can't tell if this post is wholly ironic, partially serious, or entirely serious. But it's funny regardless.

Reality Man: How can one not know in advance that Armageddon would be very cheesy?

You got PAID for writing that????

I am so fucking jealous.

Also, the blonde girl said her motivation was to stave off an unnecessary war with the wrong countries. North Korea was named multiple times.

The remark about Iranian scientists wasn't racist. That's just stupid.

Not to mention, the briefly glimpsed U.S. president is portrayed as a bumbling goofball with a thick Texas accent.

What Chris said.

I don't have a problem with whatever political overtones might be in the movie. I did have a problem with just about everything else.

I mean, Jesus, did they have to sell every joke three times?

"Reality Man: How can one not know in advance that Armageddon would be very cheesy?"

I think everyone in the audience knew it was going to be cheesy. Part of me feels, though, that the people behind the camera thought they were making a quality film, from the overly serious Willis-Affleck-Tyler relationship to the oh-so heartfelt Aerosmith song. What the fuck was up with the animal crackers? Really, the only thing sufficiently cheesy in it was Buscemi going apeshit with the gun and complaining later.

I just saw a really bad movie. American Pie meets Generic Things Blowing Up movie.

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Well, then. Who would win in a fight? Optimus Prime or Green Lantern?

Go for The Optimus Prime Directive. Its two kinds of geek for the price of one!

The Iranian scientists comment was racist. To say otherwise is stupid. QED.

I'm probably late to this, but...

The film needed more Starscream. Actually, we needed more Decepticons, period. The movie would have been better if they had just gotten rid of the hacker people (the Anthony Anderson character was not funny, and they used the same jokes as in Die Hard 4), and the soliders/airmen (I didn't know if they were Air Force or Army). And will the real Soundwave please stand up?

At least Bumblebee was cool, and Optimus Prime was okay. And I was surprised how much I liked Shia LaBoef.

Overall, the film was okay. As I overheard someone in another aisle say, "I was surprised that this film did not suck." That pretty much sums it up.

No. Some countries have access to more advanced technology than others. For example, if we had a space station that was destroyed by a super-advanced laser beam, it would not be racist to presume that the perpetrators were not likely to have been agents of the current government of Somalia, even if our two countries were in the midst of diplomatic tensions.

Now, here, in contrast, is something that really was a bit racist.

IIRC, the jibe at Iranian scientists went something along the lines of "they couldn't figure this out". If my representation is correct, then I would argue that one does not require much hermunetical wiggle room to conclude the statement was racist.

"The invasion of Cuba in Bay Boys II"

Bay Boys? This isn't your usual sloppiness, Matty, you're just fucking with us now, at least those of us who meet minimum standards of literacy.

Bay Boys ... BAY BOYS!!!!

Also: Megatron did not look like Megatron. Inexcusable.

"IIRC, the jibe at Iranian scientists went something along the lines of "they couldn't figure this out". If my representation is correct, then I would argue that one does not require much hermunetical wiggle room to conclude the statement was racist."

It depends on the context and the field. In a field like encryption figuring something out requires both expertise and computing tools. It is entirely plausible that the Iranians do not have as much computing power as the defense department at their disposal. And secondly, in a relatively new field like encryption, it is entirely possible that one of the foremost experts on the subject in the United States would be aware of the lack of comparable experts in Iran. This is basically the current situation with nuclear weapons. Iran doesn't have them because they haven't figured out how to make them. Doesn't mean they won't given enough time. But it would be entirely plausible and non-racist to say: "They couldn't have figured this out already" given the best available western knowledge of their current programs.

mpowell-
I think you're overthinking a comment in a Michael Bay movie. My instantaneous reaction was that the comment was racist, and my decidedly apolitcal friend of mine sitting next to me shared that reaction. If the movie was Hackers, or a movie that assumed the audience was somewhat educated on the subject at hand, rather than a mob looking for shiny robots banging against each other, then the comment would appear more innocent.

I guess my gripe is that the Iranian scientist comment is only going to further negative views of Middle Easterners (ignoring the pedantic investigation into the statements accuracy).

I think the opposite comment would have been the one to worry about. Portraying Iranians as non-scary is a good thing.

None of this worries me. But what vexes me is when popular American culture perpetuates the Orientalist stereotype that all Middle Easterners and Asians a backward and inferior.

What puzzle me was that the movie seemed to think that North Korea has more cyberwarfare capability than China.

The film needed more Starscream.
This was the hinge factor regarding whether I would watch this movie and chance tainting my childhood memories...now I know not to bother. I recall almost crying when Galvatron atomized him in the original movie.

Re: Carbombya - I hated that episode. Why the hell was Trypticon such a sycophant to Fakkadi? More importantly, wasn't Octane an Autobot in, like, the previous episode? He was such an allegiance whore.

Anything is possible if you wish hard enough.a man can be happy with any woman as long as he does not love her.


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