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The Residuals Debate

25 Jul 2007 05:18 pm

An awful lot of liberals I know seem unduly confident that when their favored candidate is elected President of the United States, he or she will withdraw American troops from Iraq. I think people should pay attention to Progressive Policy Institute chief Will Marshall when he notes that the major candidates at least sometimes seem to more-or-less agree with his case for indefinitely extending the US military occupation of Iraq. Marshall is also to be congratulated for, unlike the candidates themselves, speaking reasonably plainly about what it is he's proposing and trying to defend the idea on the merits. He endorses the CNAS plan favored by the more hawkish elements of the Democratic establishment and specifically endorses the idea that the goal of our Iraq policy should be not ending the war, not ending the occupation, not bringing the troops home, but rather:

Specifically, we should redefine our military mission in Iraq as enforcing three “noes” that are essential to protecting America’s strategic interests — no safe havens for al Qaeda, no genocide, and no wider regional war.

I have a long counterargument below the fold:

Now, CNAS has estimates for the quantity of troops this will entail, but the estimates are completely worthless. The Bush administration, after all was planning back in 2003 to draw down troop levels by 2005, the problem was that at the intersection of their goals and the reality on the ground, they've needed to keep a huge presence on the ground.

What Marshall and CNAS are saying is that "instead of" staying in Iraq until a stable, unified government emerges, we should stay until we're sure leaving won't result in genocide, won't leave a safe haven for al-Qaeda, and won't prompt a regional war. One problem, though, is that there's no way to be sure that civil strife in Iraq won't degenerate into genocide or suck the other regional powers in unless the civil strife comes to an end. The war aims, in short, remain to stay in Iraq until a stable, unified government emerges. Which is to say that the centrist alternative to Bush's Iraq policy is . . . Bush's Iraq policy except they'll intone the words "withdraw combat troops" and instead leave behind only forces for "training" (which to be done properly requires the trainers to embed with Iraqi combat units), "counter-terrorism" (i.e., combat), and "force protection" (i.e., combat).

Except I don't think centrists really mean this. The trouble is that they're engaging in wishful thinking. If you're a member of the Democratic Party counter-elite -- the way these CNAS people and various Brookings and CSIS people are -- it's naturally tempting to believe that replacing the current GOP policy elite with, well, you is going to have magical impacts on the situation. Realistically, though, their plans are unlikely to work and they'll just be left with the same choice we're facing today -- indefinite involvement in a civil conflict that may or may not end and that our presence is probably fueling, or else leaving.

Now, as it happens, of the three "no"s, one of them -- no al-Qaeda haven -- is genuinely vital to American interests. The good is that there's no al-Qaeda safe haven in Iraq right now, many Sunni Arabs who live in the main AQI area of operations are taking up arms against AQI, none of the Shiite factions are friendly toward AQI, and none of Iraq's neighbors are well-disposed toward AQI. That's a fundamentally favorable dynamic, and means we should be able to make the "no safe havens" point a priority without keeping US forces on the ground in Iraq. We will continue to have the capability of putting special forces on the ground in Western Iraq or dropping bombs or firing cruise missiles (this isn't a specific policy initiative -- it's just that our military is capable of doing that stuff) and we need to make it clear to Iraqis that if a safe haven emerges, we'll do it. We can also probably be helpful to people who are fighting AQI in terms of certain kinds of intelligence, and even weapons or money if there's a good reason to think that's necessary.

On the second "no," preventing a regional war isn't genuinely crucial to American security interests. A wider war would, however, be bad and we should do what we can to stop it. This can happen on two levels.

One way to stop it is, of course, to police the sectarian conflicts in Iraq and try to prevent them from becoming sufficiently severe that other powers intervene. This is, however, at odds with Marshall's view that his plan will "get U.S. troops out of the business of mediating Iraq’s sectarian conflicts and focus those who remain on protecting essential American security interests." The problem is that the main method by which the US military can prevent foreign involvement in Iraq is precisely by mediating the conflict. But, of course, we're not succeeding at mediating it. Nor are we succeeding in in preventing foreign involvement -- both Turkey and Iran have been increasing their activities in Iraq.

The only course that's left to us is diplomacy -- to try to do what we can to get Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and whoever else (Israel? Syria?) that their interests are best served by everybody staying out of Iraq. I have no idea whether or not that will work (it sounds, frankly, like a good job for Special Envoy Bill Richardson after he doesn't get on the national ticket) but the only other thing to do is precisely to mediate sectarian conflicts.

With genocide, the case gets even clearer. It doesn't make sense to say that we'll have 60,000 troops wandering around Iraq in the middle of a sectarian conflict that we're not mediating telling people "remember, kids, no genocide!" If a genocide breaks out, and foreign troops go in to stop it, those troops will need to mediate the sectarian conflict. And, again, the only meaningful way to ensure that genocide doesn't take place would be to mediate the sectarian conflict. The risk of genocide and the sectarian conflict aren't two different things.

It's worth saying that the specter of genocide here is purely hypothetical. There's every reason to think that in the six months after we leave Iraq, a lot of people will die, but a lot of people have died in the past six months. There's no particular reason to believe that there's some incipient genocide over and above the current levels of violence.

The good news is that recently we've seen some motion away from the Marshall/CNAS line, particularly on the genocide issue. The campaigns do, however, mostly seem to still be fixed on the idea of "training." And, of course, there's a difference between primary campaign positioning and what people will really do in office -- Marshall/CNAS seem to me to be broadly reflective of the Democratic foreign policy establishment types who continue to be very influential, especially with Clinton.

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I can assure you that the DINOs (Dems in name only) share several things in common with the vast majority of Republicans, with the most important being the following:

With peak oil bearing down on us, we will not walk away from some of the largest oil reserves in the world. Than plan has ALWAYS been to establish a puppet govt ("democracy") that will give the major Western Oil Companies access to developing Iraq's oil fields, and to establish military bases to protect this investment (since our presence in Saudi Arabia is getting dicey).

Hillary and the DINOs are absolutely on board with this vision, although she merely differs from the Repubs in terms of the execution of this strategy.

We now return to your originally scheduled blog comments.

It's not clear to me that "helping Western oil companies" and "continuing to have access to Mideast oil" are the same thing. After all, even if Iraq nationalizes its oil supply, they will still need to sell the oil in order to benefit from doing so. Conflating American oil companies' profit margins with "access to oil" in general buys into the frame that supports the argument you're opposed to.

It seems likely at this point that Hillary will win the Presidency. Let's assume she does. She's a canny politician who can see how the Democratic-controlled Congress's approval ratings have gone straight down the tubes because they haven't done anything gutsy about Iraq. Surely she would be able to learn from their mistakes...she does seem capable of that, right?

I think it depends on how much of her husband's playbook she adopts--specifically, if she tries to get everyone to like her, as Bill did. If she tries to avoid pissing off the Hewitts and Hannitys of the world by delaying an exeunt from Iraq, she will quickly lose the confidence of the American left without gaining the confidence of the American right, who will never, ever trust her. And, unlike Bush, she isn't going to have a significant constituency to stand by her if, say, six months of a Clinton Administration goes by without a big drawdown of troops, because liberals are far less committed to the Democratic Party than are conservatives to the GOP. The end result would be approval ratings as low as, or possibly even lower than, George W. Bush's, and liberals' best hope would be that she be defeated for renomination in 2012.

I think such a scenario is plausible. Hillary is perhaps less inclined to remove troops from Iraq, for fear of being seen as too liberal or for fear of being on watch during the second war in which America is bitterly defeated. Because she is a woman, she would be blamed for these things in a way that, say, Barack Obama would not. But if she doesn't draw down troops, she will have trouble getting renominated in 2012, I believe. All in all, I don't envy her situation, but I believe that she would only withdraw a few troops, as necessary to appease the base. At this point, though, the base wants them all out, and they don't really trust her to begin with...

Umm, this is the same PPI that is a branch of the DLC, right? The same DLC that even Clinton is ducking from?

So why think that any Democratic president is going to follow their advice?

vorkosigan1:
You are correct.

MY,
Will Marshall never learned a fuc-ing thing from Vietnam. He's basically advocating staying there forever. Think about it.

"Will Marshall never learned a fuc-ing thing from Vietnam. He's basically advocating staying there forever. Think about it"

It seems like you're the one who didn't learn from Vietnam. McGovern ran on a retreat-and-defeat platform and got defeated in a landslide, even though the war was unpopular. Democrats in Congress gave North Vietnam the green light to invade the South again by cutting off all military aid and banning U.S. air support of our ally. Without our support, South Vietnam fell when the North invaded in '75. Dems haven't been trusted on national security since then.

IOW, put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye- we're going to ride this baby right into the ground.

Natt:

This is one of those Mark Schmitt the details do not matter moments.

IF we get the troops moving out the momentum of that will overpower all of Will Marshall's wish list.

This is another one of thos emoments when wonks have the delusion of believing in 3 point plans and overanalyzing the details.

Keep your eye on the big picture.

Matt,

I think you are missing an unstated reason why a President Hillary would keep troops in Iraq: conditions will eventually improve in Iraq, and by keeping troops there, she will get credit for it. The GOP will take credit as well, of course, by pointing to their previous steadfastness in the face of Jack Murtha, et. al., but Hillary will get credit too. If, on the other hand, Hillary withdraws before Iraq is stabilized, whatever happens afterwards is clearly in her lap -- particularly since she voted to authorize the war in the first place.

Shorter Fred: And then they lived happier ever after.

I think that there will be an endgame, and we will face Iran in earnest. Shia hotheads will get loads of more advanced weapons, missiles, good landmines etc., perhaps some Sunni groups too, and our losses will be quickly intolerable.

At this point there will be an option of bombing Iran, but Iran will be probably well prepared by then (e.g. to stop traffic in- and out of Persian Gulf). Bombing alone will not help much, and we have no troops to send into a mission of this magnitude (500,000 volunteers?).

The more violent the endgame, the bigger danger of domino effect. Check the map for the possible dominoes --- it does not look good.

I think that some "responsible politician" fear the domino effect and this is the reason that they would rather stay forever. But forever is not an option.

Great post. But how can one get this perspective into the public debate, so that the distinction between leave vs. stay-and-train really makes a difference during the primary race?

Juan @7:08 above has tuned into why the Democrats are terrified of ending this stupid and foolish war: They are afraid that they will be tarnished with the "cut-and-run" tag. Then it was the Republicans screaming because the Democrats had started the war. But this time, it is the Republicans all the way; it's their war.

Does anyone remember what happened after Vietnam returned to the Vietnamese? Ol' Tricky Dicky got hisself a one-way trip to San Clemente. And the democrats gained a HUGE majority in the Congress--as a result of the widely unpopular war. (The war in Iraq is more unpopular than was the war in Vietnam) It's too bad that Bush can't be impeached and removed from office beforehand, but when you're dealing with Speaker Squeaky and Senator Milquetoast, that's what you get. "Men wit' balls," my ol' gunnery sergeant used to say in difficult situations like this; that's what we need now

Same thing's going to happen this time too. Probably a middling Republican president elected (to satisfy most of the mainstream media, like the Washington Post), but the public is going to turn out incumbents like you've never seen before. It has already started in one of the most conservative districts in one of the most conservative states in the nation, Georgia. The annointed replacement came in second in a runoff.

The public is demanding a change. Just read the polls and look at the approval ratings for both Bush and the Congress--in the pits, both of them. 52% of the public intensely dislikes Bush and Congress is even lower than that!

Even former speaker Hastert has seen the handwriting on the wall and has announced that he won't seek reelection.

New day, dawning.

Juan: "Without our support, South Vietnam fell when the North invaded in '75. Dems haven't been trusted on national security since then."

That's why they didn't win the presidency until...1976!


. . . even if Iraq nationalizes its oil supply . . .

I think they already did, a long time ago.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/5873nation.htm

As I read this article, it seems most Iraqi oil reserves were nationalized in the 1960s, excepting those already being exploited (mostly by Western companies). Then the foreign companies were nationalized in the 1970s, and the rest of the reserves along with them.

Lmao, the people arguing that the endgame here is for Iraq to control it's own oil are either blissfully ignorant of what's been causing so many problems in the Iraqi parliament, or they are the some of the most mendacious liars I've ever seen outside of the bush administration.

The 'oil' bill everyone keeps demanding that the Iraqi's pass basically hands over all profits to American oil companies. Any discussion of this subject without mentioning the fact that all of American government is attempting to force Iraq to give up it's oil rights is a discussion being driven by the wicked and the foolish.

Posted by soullite | July 26, 2007 7:52 AM:"The 'oil' bill everyone keeps demanding that the Iraqi's pass basically hands over all profits to American oil companies. Any discussion of this subject without mentioning the fact that all of American government is attempting to force Iraq to give up it's oil rights is a discussion being driven by the wicked and the foolish."

Speaking of the wicked and the foolish, anyone who says "basically" in that sentence is doing something that amounts to wilful deception. Production Sharing Agreements do not, of course, do any such thing. They give the oil companies a share of the revenue from the oil. They also give the government a share. They are extremely common in the oil business especially where there is no developed industry. The oil companies take the risks and they feel they are entitled to a share of the profits if things work out. What is wrong with that? The alternatives will not work in high risk areas. Simply giving an oil company a few cents for every barrel is not economic if they have a high chance of hitting many empty wells. Now Iraq is de facto new territory and any oil company will have to invest a lot and take many risks - where else is Iraq going to get the money to do that?

Here's a link you may like:

http://www.rulg.com/documents/The_Concept_of_Production_Sharing.htm

"PSAs have received wide applications in countries with economies in transition. PSAs as a form of cooperation between an investor and a state in the process of the use of the subsoil now actively is used in more than 40 countries, including Angola, Vietnam, Libya, Egypt, Malaysia, Peru, Syria, the Philippines, Equatorial Guinea and others. In recent years, PSAs have begin to be used in the CIS: e.g. Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan. In 1995, the Russian State Duma adopted the Federal Law “On Agreements about Production Sharing”, and at the present time several investors already are conducting their activity in Russia under PSAs, although this law is not yet being widely applied because of the lack of subsequent legislation."

What inevitably happens is that after the oil companies have found the oil, developed the infrastructure and made some money, the country nationalizes the oil. It is a win-win situation for the state.

The oil companies take the risks

Risks? Now who's guilty of willful deception?

HeiGou, not all PSAs are created equally.

The PSAs in the oil bill that the neocon globalists want to pass in Iraq would be unprecendented in the degree they favor the Western Oil Cos.

You need to compare the details of the proposed Iraqi hydrocarbon law (or whatever they call it, and it was written by...wait for it...western oil cos) to other PSAs. The terms of the agreement are drastically different.

In the aftermath of the invasion, with Americans refusing to secure Iraq in the criminally negligent way that will forever be associated with Bush, Bremer and Rumsfeld, there was a marked deterioration of the oil infrastructure. However, with oil prices being what they are, who would not loan to an Iraq state oil company that had the wherewithal and the security to drill and market? There's no reason for the Iraqis to draw up laws that treat the oil companies differently than the Kuwaitis, or the Saudis, or the Venezuelans do. Giving private companies a tenth of what is envisioned in the law at present would give oil companies a healthy incentive. The historic trend, at the moment, is greater state presence in the ownership of oil fields - Russia and Venezuela are good examples - and Iraq should follow suit. Oil Worker Unions have already struck to protest this law. If there was ever a good issue to start negotiating the peaceful resolution of Iraq's internal violence, this is it. Keeping the Americans out of the process will be a problem, however, as long as we have troops there. Which is just another reason to support withdrawal.

Re: "Now, as it happens, of the three "no"s, one of them -- no al-Qaeda haven -- is genuinely vital to American interests."

I doubt this is even the case. I guess it depends on what you mean by vital. How are they going to harm us from over there? Other than disrupting the oil supply from Iraq, I don't see any real threat.

I do agree that, in any event, it is unlikely they would get a safe haven there.

Back in 2001, the James Baker Institute issued a paper that pointed out that world oil markets needed the Iraqi status permanently clarified so that investment could be rationalized.

We [the Impertinent "We"]have always assumed that Bush and Cheney miscalculated the war, but it's certainly true that the price of oil has skyrocketed thanks to the war and the continuing (perpetual) absence of Iraqi oil from the market. The mis-handling of the war could be the point. Of course they'd shun planning: plans of a certain kind have a beginning, middle, and (dreadful) end. The war's end will always be a Disney copyright since ending the war would mean that Iraqi oil would come to market and prices would fall.

Just sayin'.

Posted by Jeffrey Davis | July 26, 2007 8:14 AM:"Risks? Now who's guilty of willful deception?"

Last I checked a lot of people were dying in Iraq. And of course the biggest risk is a sovereign risk - that the government won't be there tomorrow.

Posted by scott | July 26, 2007 9:26 AM:"The PSAs in the oil bill that the neocon globalists want to pass in Iraq would be unprecendented in the degree they favor the Western Oil Cos."

You mean limit their profits to an unprecedented 12.5 percent? Saddam signed PSAs with Russia and China. Anyone care to explain them away? Exactly what is unprecedented about these PSAs except the level of anti-Western hysteria about them?

Posted by scott | July 26, 2007 9:26 AM:"You need to compare the details of the proposed Iraqi hydrocarbon law (or whatever they call it, and it was written by...wait for it...western oil cos) to other PSAs. The terms of the agreement are drastically different."

And those details are? What exactly is drastically different between the PSAs Saddam signed with the Russians and the PSAs that the Iraqis may or may not sign with Western countries?

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 9:47 AM:"In the aftermath of the invasion, with Americans refusing to secure Iraq in the criminally negligent way that will forever be associated with Bush, Bremer and Rumsfeld, there was a marked deterioration of the oil infrastructure."

As opposed to the previous decade or two in which, of course, there was no deterioration in Iraq's oil infrastructure despite the wars with Iran, Kuwait and the West, UN sanctions, American bombing etc etc. Nope. It all came down to what America did after the invasion! Naturally. As only America is to blame for everything.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 9:47 AM:"However, with oil prices being what they are, who would not loan to an Iraq state oil company that had the wherewithal and the security to drill and market?"

What makes you think that they have the skills to drill and market? I think a lot of banks would be very wary of such a loan right now given Iraq's recent massive repudiation of debts, its debt load as is, its corruption and incompetence. Besides, where is the evidence that Iraq could find the right skills and technologies to drill properly?

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 9:47 AM:"There's no reason for the Iraqis to draw up laws that treat the oil companies differently than the Kuwaitis, or the Saudis, or the Venezuelans do."

Except they all have well established oil industries and moreover they are at peace. There is no security problem.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 9:47 AM:"Giving private companies a tenth of what is envisioned in the law at present would give oil companies a healthy incentive."

Would you work for 1.25 percent profit? I wouldn't. What is healthy about that?

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 9:47 AM:"The historic trend, at the moment, is greater state presence in the ownership of oil fields - Russia and Venezuela are good examples - and Iraq should follow suit."

Well that answers my Mother's "Would you jump off a bridge if Johnny did it" question.

Posted by Jeffrey Davis | July 26, 2007 10:29 AM:"Back in 2001, the James Baker Institute issued a paper that pointed out that world oil markets needed the Iraqi status permanently clarified so that investment could be rationalized."

So you're saying that if the Americans did not invade to make money by stealing Iraqi oil, they must have invaded to make money by keeping Iraqi oil off the market? Truly there is nothing that can hold back a True Believer.

Its hard to tell what the real motivations were for Bush's Iraq "stragety".

But one thing is definitely true: It is much less defensible to invade Iraq based on the nutty delusions of the neocon crowd than it is to invade in order to steal their oil.

HeiGou, what are you talking about? Iraq, even under Saddam Hussein, had a perfectly fine and professional corps of professionals in petrochemical engineering and management. In fact, they were so good that after the devastating 91 war, they were able to repair the Iraqi oil infrastructure in record time and achieve the sanction-mandated top level of oil production. Of course, at the moment, after America's insane and felonious occupation of Iraq, the professional class resides in Jordan, Iran and Syria - 2 million of them. But the Americans will pull out. Hopefully, left wingers like me will stab those forces in the back and get the withdrawal that the country is crying for started. When that happens, a major benchmark for the Iraqis will be to entice that human capital back. I am pretty sure that if American oil companies can't figure out how to profit on deals with the State Oil company on a standard margin, as per Russia, Venezuela et al, that Chinese or French companies could do it.

Since you seem to think that Venezuela and Russia are places where no oil companies would ever venture, and the GNP is going down down down there, I'd urge you to, uh, read a newspaper once in a while. Instead of getting all your news from that nice Mr. O'reilly.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 11:58 AM:"Iraq, even under Saddam Hussein, had a perfectly fine and professional corps of professionals in petrochemical engineering and management."

Well no they did not. They did have a fine basis for a real economy, but Saddam still needed to bring foreigners in to run the oil industry. Mainly French, Russian and Chinese companies. And as I said, Saddam signed PSAs with them.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 11:58 AM:"In fact, they were so good that after the devastating 91 war, they were able to repair the Iraqi oil infrastructure in record time and achieve the sanction-mandated top level of oil production."

Yes but repair work and maintaining a given level of production is not the same as exploration, discover, construction and above all, new technology. Any idiot can run an oil refinery after the foreigners have built it for you. Look at Iran. Building anything new is a problem.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 11:58 AM:"Of course, at the moment, after America's insane and felonious occupation of Iraq, the professional class resides in Jordan, Iran and Syria - 2 million of them. But the Americans will pull out. Hopefully, left wingers like me will stab those forces in the back and get the withdrawal that the country is crying for started."

Well it is nice you are honest and open about what you are doing, but I am not sure the country is crying for it. We will see.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 11:58 AM:"When that happens, a major benchmark for the Iraqis will be to entice that human capital back."

Yes. I can just see the new Theocracy in Iraq being a major temptation for those middle class secular professionals.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 11:58 AM:"I am pretty sure that if American oil companies can't figure out how to profit on deals with the State Oil company on a standard margin, as per Russia, Venezuela et al, that Chinese or French companies could do it."

I don't see 12.5 percent as that unreasonable. It is not much different from the 10 Saddam offered the Russians. No doubt that the American oil companies could make a profit if the security was there - at least on the old fields. However it is unlikely they will be welcome won't it?

Notice that Russia signed PSAs and is only just now finishing reneging on them all. As for poor old Venezuela, production has been declining for the past decade or more. So in 1999 the oil sector was opened up to foreign companies. Who poured money in - they did not even have to sign a PSA. Chavez nationalized them all again this year. Risk of doing business in the Third World. So you see PSAs are hardly unknown even in areas you think they wouldn't be used.

Posted by roger | July 26, 2007 11:58 AM:"Since you seem to think that Venezuela and Russia are places where no oil companies would ever venture, and the GNP is going down down down there, I'd urge you to, uh, read a newspaper once in a while. Instead of getting all your news from that nice Mr. O'reilly."

Actually as I know something, I know that a lot of people got burnt in both countries - they accepted promises from governments which then changed their minds. BP got burnt bad in Sakhalin. Exxon badly in Venezuela.

But of course abuse is a substitute for research isn't it roger?

Heigou, when you get rollin' there's no distortion too big for you to make.

My post said that we've always assumed that the chaos in Iraq was due to Bush and Cheney's incompetence. (With me so far?) As for getting in, per the Baker study, they recognized the need to get Iraqi oil to the market to rationalize oil investment decisions. But it's also true that the price of oil has skyrocketed due to the absence of Iraqi oil. Due to their incompetence. And there's definitely no end to this war in sight. Nor is there any indication that Bush would withdraw. Ever. He may have started the war with one end in sight, but Jack Horner-like, once in the corner, discovered that he'd pulled out a plum. An incompetent? A gangster? No need to choose.

Truly there is nothing that can hold back a True Believer.

Well, there's gravity.

The problem with all the frontrunner candidates, Democrat and Republican, is that they are trying to formulate an acceptable policy proposal for a boss that is both naive, unreasonable, and utterly out of touch with reality.

I'm talking about the American people here, in case you are wondering.

People like to point fingers and want someone to blame for this mess. The Bush Administration is a popular thing to point at. It is widely fashionable to paint this as "Bush's war."

Now, if I ever meet Bush, I'm going to have to restrain an irrational urge to slap him. No love lost there. But he's getting waay too much credit for this.

This never was "Bush's War." It was always our war - the American people's war. Bush went into this with overwhelming support. After September 11, just about everyone was running about screeching and looking to re-enact the Oxbow Incident right on the spot. We wanted some payback, by-golly!

Well, Bush delivered. He gave America what it wanted. And he got standing ovations for it. Republicans were advocating the Dirty Harry approach to foreign policy, and Democrats were eager to jump on the bandwagon, rightfully worried that their electorate would label them as sissies if they didn't act like good bloodthirsty nationalists. We all thought this was going to play out like some moronic Tom Clancy novel. A few good men and enough advanced firepower is all you need to solve what ails the world!

In the foreign policy arena, Americans have all the savvy and attention span of a 13 year old. And they are just as good at demanding that facts and reality not get in the way of their dreams. Bush isn't a freak. He's one of us. The living embodiment of the electorate he represents.

Now that things have gone pear-shaped, everyone is throwing tantrums and crying for mommy to make it all better. The demands of the electorate can be summarized in two agenda items:

1. Lay the blame somewhere that allows us to avoid feeling responsible for this disgrace.

2. Avoid the consequences that are rightly due to us for collectively acting like children.

Bush has taken the blame for Iraq, so that's one down...

Now, if only we could find a way to get out without any repercussions...

That, of course, is where the presidential candidates come in. And this is the boss they have to pitch their business proposal to - Us. So they walk the fine line of providing us with a plan that will make us feel better about ourselves.

But honestly, there is no quick and tidy way out of Iraq. The fact that Americans everywhere are demanding one is just continued evidence of collective childish thinking. The adult thing to do would be to admit we screwed up and start doing whatever inadequate things we can to pick up the pieces. It requires an acceptance that a lot of people have died, and are going to die because of us. It requires that we recognize just how little credibility we have left in the world. It requires apologizing to the rest of the world for ruining things.

Unfortunately, I've been watching the national mood, and I don't see a grown-up response in the cards. I think things are going to get far worse for us before they get any better.

HeiGou, Only 12% of the world's oil fields are now PSA-bound. As I say, there is no reason, given the quality of the Iraq oil field, to give out contracts that are designed for hazardous exploration. You can look up the administration's own rhetoric about the vastness of Iraq's oil wealth. There's no chance to these contracts. Bolivia broke their contracts, and guess what? Other companies came begging for the chance to drill for Natural Gas. Indonesia has broken theirs, Russia has broken theirs. No way Iraq should be making contracts for a larger PSA than in the 80s, when oil was selling at twenty dollars a barrel, now, when oil is selling at seventy dollars a barrel. The contracts are only about locking up Iraq's resources in the hands of foreign companies, a la Iran under the Shah. I don't think this is going to happen anyway, but it shouldn't. That's a good thing. The U.S. should be navigating to achieve a lower level of power in the Middle East, a natural diminishment of power, and being tied to unjust oil contracts for fat cat companies is a disaster both ways.

As for the professional class not coming back to a theocracy, hmmm. Well, at least you admit that the Islamic republic of Iraq, under U.S. control, has become a theocracy, since the two million have fled in the past three years. You are getting close to honesty! Some day you might figure out what happened between 2003 and 2007 in Iraq.

I am late in responding to this post, but after coming across it, I thought a detailed (if tardy) response was in order:

Yglesias says: Now, CNAS has estimates for the quantity of troops this will entail, but the estimates are completely worthless. The Bush administration, after all was planning back in 2003 to draw down troop levels by 2005, the problem was that at the intersection of their goals and the reality on the ground, they've needed to keep a huge presence on the ground.

CK: First, the CNAS estimates are rooted in extensive consultation with military planners and are driven both by explicitly stated national interests and the required military missions to advance them. Second, the CNAS goals are much more limited than Bush’s goals – they are not utopian ideals for a Jeffersonian democracy on the Tigris that produce open-ended commitments. Third, there is a declared timetable for the removal of all troops, which, if embraced, would be nearly impossible (politically) for the next president to back down from – so, again, the fear of the slippery slope to an open-ended occupation is misplaced. Finally, unlike Bush, there is are contingency plans for a more rapid withdrawal if things get worse (i.e., CNAS’s plans B and C would put in place Yglesias’s preferred option after there is actual evidence that the plan would fail to advance our interests rather than based on a prediction that it will fail).

Yglesias says: What Marshall and CNAS are saying is that "instead of" staying in Iraq until a stable, unified government emerges, we should stay until we're sure leaving won't result in genocide, won't leave a safe haven for al-Qaeda, and won't prompt a regional war. One problem, though, is that there's no way to be sure that civil strife in Iraq won't degenerate into genocide or suck the other regional powers in unless the civil strife comes to an end. The war aims, in short, remain to stay in Iraq until a stable, unified government emerges. Which is to say that the centrist alternative to Bush's Iraq policy is . . . Bush's Iraq policy except they'll intone the words "withdraw combat troops" and instead leave behind only forces for "training" (which to be done properly requires the trainers to embed with Iraqi combat units), "counter-terrorism" (i.e., combat), and "force protection" (i.e., combat).

CK: See above – The CNAS troop levels were carefully arrived at and there is a timetable for a complete withdrawal, so the commitment is not open-ended. Moreover, and this is really important, stretching the withdrawal out over several years and embedding with Iraqi forces at the national and local level during this transition, as the CNAS proposal recommends, dramatically increases the chances that the current evolution of Iraq toward a highly decentralized state will result in a more stable, less violent equilibrium. If communities have self-separated (which they are doing and will continue to do) and are convinced they can defend themselves against their enemies at the local level, yet remain too weak to take over the whole country, this may generate a Bosnia-style equilibrium at a level of violence far below what we see today. This will take careful calibration -- but such calibration is impossible if we are not present with leverage and influence on all sides. The CNAS report persausively demonstrates that this is the best of our bad options to advance enduring U.S. national interests and our moral obligations in Iraq.

Yglesias says: Except I don't think centrists really mean this. The trouble is that they're engaging in wishful thinking. If you're a member of the Democratic Party counter-elite -- the way these CNAS people and various Brookings and CSIS people are -- it's naturally tempting to believe that replacing the current GOP policy elite with, well, you is going to have magical impacts on the situation. Realistically, though, their plans are unlikely to work and they'll just be left with the same choice we're facing today -- indefinite involvement in a civil conflict that may or may not end and that our presence is probably fueling, or else leaving.

CK: This conclusion is only correct if one assess U.S. interests and obligations in Iraq as low (in which case it is not worth trying an alternative to withdrawal at lower troop levels regardless of the prospects for success) or if one assesses the probability of advancing these interests as very low no matter what we do (so that it is not worth trying even if our interest in the outcome is high). Both types of claims require arguments and evidence, rather than mere assertions such as "their plans are unlikely to work." After all, it was claims rooted in poor evidence that convinced so many to support the war to begin with. If, however, the stakes are high and the prospects for advancing these interests COMPARED TO THE PROBABILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER AVAILABLE OPTIONS are reasonable, as the CNAS report demonstrates, then this "centrist" alternative is the best we have.

Yglesias says: Now, as it happens, of the three "no"s, one of them -- no al-Qaeda haven -- is genuinely vital to American interests. The good is that there's no al-Qaeda safe haven in Iraq right now, many Sunni Arabs who live in the main AQI area of operations are taking up arms against AQI, none of the Shiite factions are friendly toward AQI, and none of Iraq's neighbors are well-disposed toward AQI. That's a fundamentally favorable dynamic, and means we should be able to make the "no safe havens" point a priority without keeping US forces on the ground in Iraq. We will continue to have the capability of putting special forces on the ground in Western Iraq or dropping bombs or firing cruise missiles (this isn't a specific policy initiative -- it's just that our military is capable of doing that stuff) and we need to make it clear to Iraqis that if a safe haven emerges, we'll do it. We can also probably be helpful to people who are fighting AQI in terms of certain kinds of intelligence, and even weapons or money if there's a good reason to think that's necessary.

CK: First, this represents a fundamental misunderstanding of the dynamics driving the tribes and some “nationalist” insurgent groups into cooperative relations with U.S. forces, and a fundamental misunderstanding of the enemy-of-my-enemy logic that drives alliances during civil wars in general. The wedge between the tribes and al Qaeda is the result of long-standing engagement efforts by the U.S. military and, most importantly, significant missteps by al Qaeda (not, as the administration claims, the result of surge). Enemy-of-my-enemy logic is the driving dynamic. The Sunni tribes increasing see al Qaeda as the number one near-term threat (in large part because the Shia are being restrained by the U.S.); the sheiks fear that al Qaeda and its self-declared “Islamic State in Iraq” is consolidating too much political and economic power, and they are no longer willing to tolerate the jihadists’ brutal efforts at intimidation. After al Qaeda, however, the Sunni tribes view the Shia-dominated government and Iran as the greatest medium- and long-term threats. In the current environment working with the U.S. helps destroy al Qaeda and provides a check against threats from the Shia and Iran. However, if the United States abandons the Sunnis altogether before they are capable of providing local security, we risk pushing the tribes back to al Qaeda through the same enemy-is-my-enemy logic. They will judge, perhaps reasonably, that making common cause with al Qaeda again is needed to battle the Shia and their Iranian patrons.

Second, at the same time, as Sunni-Shia violence escalates, al Qaeda recruitment is likely to go up. Significant evidence suggests the foreign fighters are now entering Iraq to fight the “dual occupiers” (the U.S. and the Shia/Iran), and that the latter threat (Shia/Iran) is seen as the bigger one. A total withdrawal without providing Sunni groups any assurances of greater local security will likely magnify incentives to enter Iraq to fight the Shia. Together, these dynamics suggest that Yglesias cannot accomplish what he admits is a core national interest via a total and immediate withdrawal. The better alternative is to use a robust residual force to maintain and solidify the momentum toward bottom-up security and a less violent equilibrium in a highly decentralized Iraq.

Third, abandoning the Sunnis to the Shia in Iraq also risks inflaming regional opinion in Sunni majority countries and expanding external involvement in Iraq’s civil war by encouraging “moderate” Arab states like Saudi Arabia and Jordan to ratchet up their support to Sunni insurgents. They too may become more tolerant of indirect support to salafist jihadis affiliated with al Qaeda (as they were during the 1980s in Afghanistan) to combat growing Iranian influence.

Finally, the notion that al Qaeda in Iraq can be destroyed, especially in the context described above, with only small numbers of special forces and air power is unrealistic. This is not working in Afghanistan, where Democrats rightly call for increasing U.S. forces on the ground to compensate for this shortfall. Moreover, the trick to targeting al Qaeda in Iraq is quality intelligence, which is only possible if we maintain good relations with Sunni tribal groups and others on the ground.

Yglesias says: On the second "no," preventing a regional war isn't genuinely crucial to American security interests. A wider war would, however, be bad and we should do what we can to stop it. This can happen on two levels.

One way to stop it is, of course, to police the sectarian conflicts in Iraq and try to prevent them from becoming sufficiently severe that other powers intervene. This is, however, at odds with Marshall's view that his plan will "get U.S. troops out of the business of mediating Iraq’s sectarian conflicts and focus those who remain on protecting essential American security interests." The problem is that the main method by which the US military can prevent foreign involvement in Iraq is precisely by mediating the conflict. But, of course, we're not succeeding at mediating it. Nor are we succeeding in in preventing foreign involvement -- both Turkey and Iran have been increasing their activities in Iraq.

CK: This represents some pretty significant confusion over the nature of the proposed CNAS mission. Yglesias is correct that the major trigger for regional war is a dramatic escalation of sectarian strife, but he is wrong on the inability to avoid this trigger with a smaller force. First, the CNAS proposal would phase the U.S. out of population security, which would instead be conducted by national and local security forces, but in homogenous areas, like Anbar, this would not increase sectarian tensions – and, as self-separation inevitably continues across Iraq, this becomes true elsewhere.

Second, in mixed areas, the presence of American advisors (which would be significantly increased under the CNAS plan to allow greater force protection and better monitoring at the Company-level of Iraqi operations and below), is likely to have an important impact. Substantial anecdotal evidence suggests that Iraqi Security Forces behave much more responsibly in the presence of American advisors.

Third, a residual force committed to intervene to stop preparations for genocide – which would be large organized effort that could be detectable if the U.S. maintains and advisory presence within the ISF, MoD, and MoI – could limit the risks that a major attempt by a group associated with the Iraqi government would engage in genocidal violence deep within predominantly Sunni areas, the most likely trigger for regional intervention by Sunni states.

Finally a residual presence serves some deterrence function against both the Turks and the Iranians, and lowers the incentives for the Kurds to declare independence (triggering Turkish intervention) and for the Shia government to seek Iranian assistance in the wake of total abandonment.

Yglesias says: The only course that's left to us is diplomacy -- to try to do what we can to get Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and whoever else (Israel? Syria?) that their interests are best served by everybody staying out of Iraq. I have no idea whether or not that will work (it sounds, frankly, like a good job for Special Envoy Bill Richardson after he doesn't get on the national ticket) but the only other thing to do is precisely to mediate sectarian conflicts.

CK: Diplomacy is necessary and consistently undervalued by the Bush administration, but it may not be sufficient, especially if the U.S. is seen by Sunni Arab states as abandoning their brethren or seen by the Iranians and Turks as producing a power vacuum they can exploit. It is not at all clear, as Yglesias suggests, that most of Iraq’s neighbors have a clear interest in “staying out of Iraq.” Indeed, in the near-term following a U.S. withdrawal, the incentives become more involved in the Iraqi conflict to affect the dynamics there, which are perceived as having a profound impact on the geopolitical balance in the region and potential ripple effects for the internal dynamics of minority groups in almost all the surrounding countries, will likely increase. The CNAS report recommends aggressive diplomacy, but recognizes that it is a necessary but not wholly sufficient part of a strategy aimed at limiting regional war.

Yglesias says: With genocide, the case gets even clearer. It doesn't make sense to say that we'll have 60,000 troops wandering around Iraq in the middle of a sectarian conflict that we're not mediating telling people "remember, kids, no genocide!" If a genocide breaks out, and foreign troops go in to stop it, those troops will need to mediate the sectarian conflict. And, again, the only meaningful way to ensure that genocide doesn't take place would be to mediate the sectarian conflict. The risk of genocide and the sectarian conflict aren't two different things.

CK: I addressed most of this above. However, it is worth repeating that actual genocide does not “just happen” – it is planned and organized. The ability of the Iraqi government or affiliated militias to carry out actual genocide in predominantly Sunni parts of Iraq (as opposed to low level sectarian cleansing of mixed neighborhoods in Baghdad, Diyala, etc.) would both be detectable and potentially preventable if U.S. forces were present and embedded with ISF units, and therefore capable of monitoring them.

Second, the CNAS report calls for the development of explicit metrics on human rights performance and sectarian loyalties within the ISF, and calls on assistance to both national and local forces to be made conditional on avoiding this type of violence. Since both national and local forces desire and need U.S. support (training, logistics, air, etc.), this potentially provides substantial leverage.

Third, by assisting local security forces and furthering accommodation from the bottom-up, the balance of forces and interests are tipped against genocide.

Yglesias says: It's worth saying that the specter of genocide here is purely hypothetical. There's every reason to think that in the six months after we leave Iraq, a lot of people will die, but a lot of people have died in the past six months. There's no particular reason to believe that there's some incipient genocide over and above the current levels of violence.

CK: Perhaps. Let’s hope this is true. But, remember, in Rwanda in 1994, 800,000 people (out of a total population of 7 million) were killed in 100 days with machetes. Iraq is a country of 25 million people where every household has an automatic weapon. People who think things can’t get worse, reveal their ignorance of how bad things were in Rwanda, Bosnia, etc. on a per capita basis compared to Iraq. A rapid and total withdrawal in Iraq will likely increase the violence, perhaps substantially. This may not be reason enough for the U.S. to stay, but we shouldn’t try to wish away the possibility by saying “how can things possibly get worse?” just to make us feel better about leaving. We are chiefly responsible for creating the security situation that has imperiled hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Leaving won’t solve that problem. People who were opposed to the war at the outset (as I was) should not pretend that a total U.S. withdrawal will “end the war” – it won’t. It will simply change our participation in the war. For the Iraqis, the war will rage on, and probably get worse . . . and we will have some moral responsibility for that too if we don’t exit Iraq with more thought than we entered.


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