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National Review Signs Up for War

20 Aug 2007 11:32 am

How else to read these passages from their new editorial?

To designate the Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist entity, then, is to acknowledge reality. Yet there is something decidedly unrealistic in the idea that the Revolutionary Guard can be separated from the Iranian government as a whole. [...] For a variety of reasons — economic interest, anti-Americanism, and reflexive pacifism chief among them — it would prefer to avoid any bad blood with the Islamic Republic. Most of the U.S. State Department feels likewise. But the simple truth is that, unless Iran’s regime gives up both its terrorist ideology and its weapons, we will never be safe. The president has taken an important — albeit partial and overdue — step toward facing that unpleasant reality.

I doubt Iran's regime is going to just abandon it's ideology if George Bush asks them too, so I guess this counts as a call for us to invade Iran, overthrow its regime, and install in its place one that's both more ideological acceptable and also prone to abandon the nuclear program that the Shah started and the Ayatollahs have continued. Strangely, though, the editorial doesn't actually say any of those things, continuing the weird pattern of dissembling and doublespeak that's characterized the Iran debate for years now. But if we can't be safe without regime change, then surely we should invade and change the regime, right?

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I also liked this bit, equating the terrorist Revolutionary Guards and the State Department:

"For a variety of reasons — economic interest, anti-Americanism, and reflexive pacifism chief among them — it would prefer to avoid any bad blood with the Islamic Republic. Most of the U.S. State Department feels likewise."

So, if bombing Iran is too much for you, how about bombing Foggy Bottom? The NRO people are simply nuts.

We will never be safe until all of President Cheney's enemies are dead or subdued. That is why we must always be at war.

we will never be safe

Oh. My. Gawd.

This is why I thought it odd that Secretary Rice would designate the Revoultionary Guard as terrorists in order to "pacify" administration warmongers unless by "pacify" you mean "give the green light to."

Talk about an insurgency..wow..Iran. With Chinese weapons to boot.

Now that would be a gift to the next administration that history would remember.

And just yesterday was the aniversary of the US installing Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

Charlie, read the uncut link-"it" refers to Europe not the Rev Guards as Matt would have us believe.

Who is writer Kathryn Jean Lopez? She (from her bio) has been featured in Playboy and praised for her "editorial daring." An award-winning opinion journalist and editor, Lopez is the editor of National Review Online and an associate editor at National Review.

She is a graduate of the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C., where she studied philosophy and politics. Before standing athwart history at National Review, she worked at the Heritage Foundation, the conservative think tank on Capitol Hill. Besides National Review and NRO, her work has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Times, The Women's Quarterly, The National Catholic Register, Our Sunday Visitor, American Outlook, New York Press, and The Human Life Review, among other publications.

Lopez quote: "I believe that Rudy Giuliani should name former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum to be his running mate the day after Labor Day. This would be exactly one year before the Republican National Convention convenes in St. Paul, Minnesota."

There are no viable military solutions to Iran, and everyone knows it. So what could these primitive clicks and whistles the wingnuts are emitting about Iran really be about?

The price of oil is about to fall under $70/barrel.

Hmmm.

"For a variety of reasons — economic interest, anti-Americanism, and reflexive pacifism chief among them — [Europe] would prefer to avoid any bad blood with the Islamic Republic. Most of the U.S. State Department feels likewise."

Matt just made a slight eiting oversight.

Don Bacon:
You don't want to know who K-Lo is. You'll need plenty of bleach to disinfect your brain afterwards. She absolutely fawns over Rick Santorum. She also has a school girl crush on a few other Republican politicians. She can't write any better than a 3rd grader.

Jennifer, you don't read my posts any more. I'm offended.

Don Bacon:

(1) Most people who read here know who Lopez is, thanks to her role as laughingstock at The Corner, where she has posted dozens of hilariously dumb, unhinged remarks over the last several years. Her qualifications are really irrelevant at this point, except perhaps as a warning to those who would give weight to them, given the highly consistent ridiculousness of her output.

(2) The piece refers to Europe and the State Department, so your accusation of a lie on the part of Yglesias is itself a lie, shockingly enough.

Come on, JKc, you need to have the creds to be published in Our Sunday Visitor.

"Never be safe"?!? This is like a caricature of a straw-man liberal trial lawyer writing about how we need to stop manufacturing cars. Foreign policy is about managing and diminishing threats, not launching a worldwide jihad where thousands of our troops die to bring our boldly freaked-out and war-craving citizenry closer to 100% safety.

"abandon it's ideology if George Bush asks them too"

Um, I hate love to be a pedant, and all, but maybe a little proofreading is in order here.

I'm all for war with Iran if we can suit up the editorial staff of the National Review and send them in as our own revolutionary vanguard. They must make the ultimate sacrifice so that we may live, and so on, and maybe their valiant foray into the harsh climes of exotic Parthia shall provide us with the glorious inspiration for our own recruitment campaign; perhaps I shall catch the fever myself and sign with a particularly bloodthirsty platoon of Marines helmed by Willem Dafoe. There is no doubt that much wackiness would ensue...

matt,

(1) Pardon me for not understanding what most people know about Lopez. For those that don't know I thought that it was important to know something about a writer who is promoting a truly dangerous foreign policy. I don't even know what 'The Corner' is, that's how dumb I am. I'll never do it again, I promise. Mea culpa.

(2) The editorial excerpt posted above was clearly misleading, as evidenced by charlie's misunderstanding and Jennifer's posting. I was merely attempting to obviate further erroneous posting. I did not accuse anyone of lying, but of misleading. I have read much worse slander of the diarist on this site and thought: Wow, that's extreme. But I guess I'm still too new to cast any negativity at all on the diarist *sigh*. Someday, perhaps, if I'm not blocked by then, I'll gain admittance.

(3) I'm been trying to contribute positively to this site. I try to focus on facts because, frankly I'm not the writers that Dan K. and Don W. are, whom I respect greatly. Matt's great too. Now I'll take a vacation for awhile--catch you later.

But the simple truth is that, unless Iran’s regime gives up both its terrorist ideology and its weapons, we will never be safe.

Yes. There are more than three Americans for every Iranian, and the Iranian GDP is a whopping 4-5% of ours. This is at least as menacing as the Polish knife held to poor Germany's throat in 1939. God the right-wingers are a pathetic pack of bed-wetters.


Sorry, Dan Bacon, I just did not refresh the screen and notice your correction to Matt's post. I did not understand the refence and like you went to the source though I do not like the source.

I believe I read at another blog that the AUMF allows Bush to take action against any country that harbors an organization that the administration (?) deems terrorist. If Rudy's elected, I'm sure that Mexican drug cartels will be designated as terrorist organizations. The base will eat that up like candy.

YES! We can finally once and for all win the Mexican-American war! Is there any way we could lose Texas in the process? And Southern California-- not much going on there. Draw the line at the Monterey Bay!

"Yet there is something decidedly unrealistic in the idea that the Revolutionary Guard can be separated from the Iranian government as a whole."

I'm glad NR has acquired the power to declare something unrealistic and make it so. It sounds pretty realistic to me to acknowledge the likelihood that the Quds Force or the Guards as a whole are not entirely under the control of the regime in Tehran.

Sorry, that is [Dan] Bacon.

Can we stop the Iranian nuclear weapons crap? PLEASE?

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=12263

"There are no viable military solutions to Iran, and everyone knows it. So what could these primitive clicks and whistles the wingnuts are emitting about Iran really be about?"

Because Cheney and the neocons do not care that there are no military solutions. That's not the point.

The point is chaos. The point is war profiteering. The point is helping Israel and the US dominate the Middle East by fracturing the entire area into either crushed non-states or warring factions. The point is oil.

But all of these things DO require an attack on - indeed, an invasion of - Iran, and thus that is what is going to happen.

The wingnuts are just that - wingnuts. They don't count except as cheerleaders.

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