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16 Aug 2007 12:22 pm

The person who alerted me to the fact that the entirety of The New Pornographers' forthcoming album Challengers is now streaming on their MySpace page was worried that he was the last one in the universe to know. Well, now I'm worried I'm the last to know, so I'm telling you, my readers, since probably some of you don't know (probably many of you hate the band) and now you're the last to know.

After one listen, I think they've managed to make it more middling than any of their previous efforts. Mass Romantic, Electric Version, and Twin Cinemas all feature brilliant tracks and some that I find pretty annoying. Nothing on Challengers annoyed me. But nothing thrilled me the way "The Laws Have Changes," "Mass Romantic," "Miss Teen Wordpower," "All for Swinging Your Around," "Twin Cinema," or "Jackie Dressed in Cobras" does. We'll see, though, how I feel after repeat listens.

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I illegally downloaded this album months ago, shrugged, and moved on. That said, My Rights Versus Yours and Myriad Harbour stand up against their best work. The problem now is everybody is so involved with their (excellent) side projects, how much juice is there for New Porn proper? Destroyer, AC Newman, Neko Case, sometimes supergroups just pull apart-- perhaps it's better this way. It's easier to muster razor-sharp energy as a hungry kid, but as a talented solo artist, maybe you're sick of taking power pop direction from some ginger-coiffed Canadian freak. In the words of Destroyer, "Some might say, we've lost the space race, some may say we lost the space race-- another one might say we won."

what? no mention of Sing Me Spanish Techno or The Bleeding Heart Show? Those tracks are heads and shoulders above the rest (and I like the rest as well- these songs are just SO spectacular)! Ok, as you were...

To your list of brilliant songs I'd add my slow descent into alcoholism and use it. Plus the video for Laws have changed is brilliant.

The Bleeding Heart show is a snoozer just ripe for a University of Phoenix commercial...

Sing Me Spanish Techno is the motherfucking JAM, man.

I was apparently one of the few who thought all of Twin Cinema (other than Spanish Techno and Use It) was complete ass, so I do find Challengers to be a step up, but not a big one. I'm starting to doubt that they have another Electric Version in them. I now go exclusively to the Long Winters to fulfill my Pacific northwest power-pop supergroup needs.

Jessica Numbers and Jackie, Dressed in Cobras are the WITCH'S TITS, you numpty!

"Myriad Harbours" is Dan Bejar's best contribution to the band yet.

I sadly have to agree with Matt's assessment here. I played each of the last three albums over and over quite a bit, especially "Twin Cinemas" - "Jackie Dressed in Cobras," "Sing Me Spanish Techno", and "Stacked Crooked" especially - but this one was pretty underwhelming. It came as kind of a kick in the gut, since I've come to depend on NP for my over-the-top power pop needs.

The problem with the NPs is that the two best members, Dan and Neko, are the least visible. Destroyer is sooooo much better.

Is it really fair to pass judgment on an album after a single listen? Also, have to say that I now discount Matt's suggestions after he rushed to proclaim his lukewarm feelings for "Neon Bible." That album ruled and only got better with more listening.

There's no real reason to point this out, but I can't figure out why anyone would listen to this crap. MY's favorite bands never have anything interesting to say, and they bring nothing acoustically interesting to their music. They are bland, boring bands-for-the-sake-of-being-bands, totally below the threshold of noticeability, whose only collective virtue is that listening to them probably won't give someone ear cancer (Maybe. I'll know for sure when I get the biopsy results on Saturday). It's just heartbreaking.

There's no real reason to point this out, but I can't figure out why anyone would listen to this crap. MY's favorite bands never have anything interesting to say, and they bring nothing acoustically interesting to their music. They are bland, boring bands-for-the-sake-of-being-bands, totally below the threshold of noticeability, whose only collective virtue is that listening to them probably won't give someone ear cancer (Maybe. I'll know for sure when I get the biopsy results on Saturday). It's just heartbreaking

There's no real reason too mention this, but your a pretentious ass trying to start a flame war.

"Jackie Dressed In Cobras"? "Sing Me Spanish Techno"? Come on, people. Everyone knows that the best song on Twin Cinemas - hell, the best song on any Pornographers record - is "Use It".

Gordon, you could enlighten us with the bands you like anytime.

Arguing about music is like dancing about geography. STFU.

Except Gordon-- you're fucking wrong. Go listen to Springsteen you numb-nutted nonce!

I find no impulse to spread the gospel of my own musical tastes-probably too plebeian for those who can suck some sustenance from the likes of The New Pornographers. Mostly, I am at a loss at what it is about this music people enjoy. I don't imagine, however, that what leads me to like, say Tom Waits, proves that my ear for music is founded on some objectively superior aesthetic criteria that others are remiss in not understanding. Differences of taste in music are probably totally inexplicable.

No Letter from an Occupant? The new album is too boring. From that band, it's especially depressing. Thanks Aaron for the Long Winters tip; it's good stuff.

I'm obsessing over Free Blood and other dance-y punk stuff right now. It's like if !!! and TV on the Radio got together.

Gordon, if you keep mentally masturbating like that, you'll go blind. Which would be a shame, since you're already aesthetically deaf.

I always think Dan Bejar sounds like a leprechaun. Like, a really irritating little, leaping, heel clicking, limerick spouting dude. Either that or Popeye on helium. I can't listen to Destroyer, his voice just makes my skin crawl.

They've also had the whole album available to stream for a few weeks now for people that bought it early. I haven't really given it much of a listen, though; for some stupid reason I feel like I should wait until the album's in my hands.

Here's to hoping it's like Twin Cinema, which I was really bored by at first, but then quickly grew on me. I have sadly accepted that there'll never again be another Electric Version, though.

If I were really "aesthetically deaf" I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the new pornographers and a fart and the wind. And you're right. I can't tell the difference.

Last comment. Anyone check out Band of Horses? That shit's great.

Band of Horses-- like My Morning Jacket on Ritalin. That's why I love 'em.

I actually didn't even know they had a new CD out, and I kinda like them, so that must qualify me for "last person to know" in some category.

Band of Horses is the shiznit.

And I too would like to know what music Mr. Lightfoot likes. When I was in junior high school I listened to "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" over and over.

BoH new album comes out 10/9. http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/44323-band-of-horses-reveal-new-album-title

Check 'em out live if they come buy-- they wear cool boots, and the banter is cockeyed as all hell. Also, they are able to really crank live, however more so the first time I saw them at the Fillmore in '06. They seemed tired when they came through the Great American Music Hall this summer-- still rockin', tho.

08-16 Cleveland, OH - Warner Cable Amphitheatre @#
08-18 Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center (Download Festival) @#
08-19 Philadelphia, PA - Festival Pier @#
08-18 Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center (Download Festival) #
09-02 East Troy, WI - Alpine Valley Music Theater (Download Festival)

Yeah, none of those dates are anywhere close to Portland. You'd think I'd get to hear more great shows, living in this wonderful town of indie rock, but between being a forgetful idiot and bands just skipping us a lot of the time, I miss out a whole lot.

Portland's beautiful, and all the rockers live there anyway. Isaac Brock, Britt Daniel, Hutch Harris, James Mercer, Stephen Malkmus... It's like indie Mecca now! And flat as a schoolboy's chest for enhanced bike-ability!

Add me to the "meh" contingent on this one, and is it ever disappointing.

I came kind of late to The NPs, seeing them at Lolla in 2006, liking the show, and picking up "Mass Romantic" a week or so later out of curiosity. I don't think I've had a similar response to any album before. Usually, the more I hear a record, the less interesting it becomes, but this was the exact opposite. The more I heard it, the more I found to hear in it, and wanted to keep listening.

I quickly snapped up "Twin Cinema" and "Electric Version" and was amazed at how completely wonderful they were, which led me to pick up some of the solo projects, and finally anxiously anticipate the new one. I've been listening to the Matador early buyer stream for a couple weeks, and while its OK, and some songs are very good, its still a let down.

"Challengers" just doesn't seem up to par with the first three. Some pretty songs, but not enough of the inspired ass-kicking stuff like "Letter From an Occupant", "The Laws Have Changed", or "The Bleeding Heart Show" (their best in my opinion). Mediocre work by world class artists, better than the rest, but a disappointment nonetheless.

You people are all old and lame. Go read Alterman, for chrissakes, where Music died with Dylan, Springsteen, & Young.

Like Gordon, I don't get this genre of music, but unlike Gordon, I'm not going to pipe in with bile-laden comments about how I don't get it.

Rather, I'm going to pipe in with this comment about how every genre has quite a fair number of people who don't get it, and if you're itching to comment about how someone's favorite music just doesn't suit you, you should probably shut the #(@*$ up because, chances are, your chosen Valhalla of Sound is little more than damp shite in someone else's ears.

MY, I don't get it, but if it thrills you and people you know, rock on! Because that's what it's all about.

The rest of us can always skip these posts if we don't care.

Got that, Gordon?

The world is full of disagreement. Some of us are fairly casual about it. I don't assume when I indicate a less that complimentary opinion about so arbitrary a thing as music that I'm really going to bother anyone. Out of a base level of respect, I rather assume that literate adults can live comfortably in a world that occasionally includes the criticism of things those very adults may love and even identify with. But then there are the Adams of the world, who don't want to ever hear anything that might make them feel sad. They only want to hear nice things. And I could say only nice things, but, for reasons that probably are beyond justification, when I look at that rainbow and lollipop-filled world I would be helping to create in doing so, I am filled with revulsion. The silence that you demand of me, Adam, is no less tyrannical because it is demanded in the name of civility, or fraternity, or whatever fantasy grips you so feverishly. Besides, it is unmistakably juvenile (and dare I say, contradictory?) in the negative criticism of the concept of negative criticism.

OK, Gordon, now you're officially being a dick.

Sure, a little bit. But only because it was warranted. Maybe I'll have nightmares about the horrors I have inflicted upon you all, and when I die, some justice-obsessed deity will call me to task for my horrible crimes. Or maybe whatever fragile karmic order there is keeping this world of needless suffering and bloodshed in balance will find nothing of moral consequence to measure in any of the comments that grace these threads.

Big surprise...my office's filter blocks a Myspace page for "New Pornographers". I'll take a listen tonight, I guess.

I tend to agree that the "wheat-to-chaff" ratio has gotten slightly worse on each NP record. Twin Cinema is maybe running 50/50 to Mass Romantic's basket full of golden, wheaty goodness. I also agree that their individual projects tend, on the whole, to be much stronger these days. (Academicaly in Case's work, anyway. I've grown mighty tired of alt-country, even when sung by hot canadian girls.)

Danno, no! Alt-country is the best genre there is. And Case isn't even particularly hot. It's all about that voice.

Alt- anything is crappy; just check out Wilco's newest for confirmation of that fact. It all ends up as schmaltzy Americana. But the Atl- prefix is pretty shitty too, when one comes to think about it...

Neko Case is particularly hot.

I think Dennis Kucinich might agree with you on that...

The world is full of disagreement. Some of us are fairly casual about it. I don't assume when I indicate a less that complimentary opinion about so arbitrary a thing as music that I'm really going to bother anyone. Out of a base level of respect, I rather assume that literate adults can live comfortably in a world that occasionally includes the criticism of things those very adults may love and even identify with. But then there are the Adams of the world, who don't want to ever hear anything that might make them feel sad. They only want to hear nice things. And I could say only nice things, but, for reasons that probably are beyond justification, when I look at that rainbow and lollipop-filled world I would be helping to create in doing so, I am filled with revulsion. The silence that you demand of me, Adam, is no less tyrannical because it is demanded in the name of civility, or fraternity, or whatever fantasy grips you so feverishly. Besides, it is unmistakably juvenile (and dare I say, contradictory?) in the negative criticism of the concept of negative criticism.

Hee, hee, you think you're a good writer.

Your willingness to speak truth to power, and to take the radical position that Tom Waits is an admirable musician, stands as an inspiration to us all and a stinging rebuke to the mindless herd in this thread that, falling into lock-step with the Alt-Kommissar Yglesias, has expressed, in civil terms, varying degrees of satisfaction with the latest New Pornographers album.

I, for one, shudder to think of the aesthetic cesspool into which we would descend if brave souls like Gordon were not willing to respond to off-the-cuff album reviews on political weblogs with pseudo-modest 10-cent-word-strewn paeans to their own inexplicable and inborn discernment.

The only pure music is no music a'tall.

New Pornographers songs have a habit of sneaking up on me. I mean, yea "Use It" is the shit right out of the box, but I had Mass Romantic for like 2 years before I realized "From Blown Speakers" is the best song they've ever created.

erm, Electric Version I mean.

I enjoyed this thread. I guess I don't get enough opportunities to trade insults. I am a little baffled at a comment about music inspiring so much weird hostility, but maybe I shouldn't be. People identify with music in a sort of tender, vulnerable way.

So here, I'll tell you what I like, and you can tell me how terrible my taste in music is. I don't really listen to any particular genre. I like Tom Waits, think his best album was Rain Dogs. I like Sleater-Kinney, and think their last album, The Woods, was their best (and spectacular). I like PJ Harvey; I suppose her best album was To Bring You My Love. I like Tool, think Lateralus was one of the best albums ever made. I enjoyed A Perfect Circle's 13th Step a great deal, but Maynard's cover album eMotive just gave me heartburn. There are more but I don't see the point in listing them all. A lot of music I like comes from artists I wouldn't categorically recommend. I'll find really outstanding tracks, completely out of place in albums that otherwise uniformly suck. My most recent discovery of this kind is Hellawaitsya, by Helvetia, on The Clever North Wind.

Sleater-Kinney? OK, now that's just lame.

Hey Gordo-- it's fitting you like Tool, because you are one. That said, Aenima's a great fucking album.

So sorry I missed this post when it first came out. Give Challengers another few spins. The best songs on the disc -- My Rights vs. Yours, Challengers, Adventures in Solitude, FailSafe, All The Old Showstoppers, and Unguided -- stand up to the band's best work. It's just a bit slower. They've also added nice new touches, like the strings in All The Old Showstoppers.

A great, great album.

I've come late to this screaming match, but being currently in the middle of reading "Confederacy of Dunces," I just wanted to comment that Gordon Lightfoot sounds a helluva lot like Ignatius J. Reilly.


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