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The Dread Populism

07 Aug 2007 11:33 am

Matt Miller has an interesting take on John Edwards and populism:

Consider John Edwards, who the press and Republicans have cast as the heartthrob of the resurgent "left". The centrepiece of Mr Edwards' agenda is a call for universal health coverage. It sounds radical to American ears, perhaps. But Margaret Thatcher would have been chased from office in the UK if she had proposed a health plan as radically conservative as Mr Edwards' - under which private doctors would supply the medicine, and years would still pass with millions of Americans uncovered.

Mr Edwards wants to lift the minimum wage substantially, and to boost wage subsidies for low-income work besides. But the outer limits of Mr Edwards' ambition would leave low income work less generously compensated than the minimum wage and subsidy blend enacted by Britain's New Labourites Tony Blair and Gordon Brown - arrangements Conservative party leader David Cameron says suit him just fine. [...]

I could go on, but you get the point. The fact that a Thatcher-Cameron-Buffet agenda can be hyped as "populist" says more about propaganda success and media norms than anything else. Over three decades, America's conservative movement has so deftly shifted the boundaries of debate to the right that even modest adjustments to the market system can be cast as the second coming of Marx without anyone blushing. Today's phony populist fears also remind us that the real problem with the media is not ideology but stenography. If official sources call something "populist" often enough, it is.

This is, in many ways, music to my ears. That said, I do think one of the main things this illustrates is another point entirely -- the extent to which populism is a style rather than an ideology. John Edwards doesn't just talk about his policies as good policies, he talks about wresting control over the government from entrenched economic elites and deploying its power on behalf of ordinary people. That is populism and it's different from what a UK Conservative can or would say. Or, rather, a UK Conservative can adopt a populist style or pose, but would need to change the target around to make it something like wresting power from arrogant bureaucrats or public sector unions.

Populism is a real thing, and a quite analytically useful category, but it's not a kind of policy agenda, it's a kind of way of talking about policy.

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For a few decades of my life, the term "populism" was also used in foreign policy discussions to dismissively insult many policies and programs in Latin America which focused on having some positive result for the poor and benighted masses.

Everyone was supposed to prefer harsh, "disciplinary" policies which "tightened belts" and screwed the poor and working class majority in favor of a few macroeconomic statistics which in turn favored a tiny set of local and foreign investors.

Yet since adopting left populist policies which the U.S. foreign policy establishment disparages to this day, Argentina and Venezuela have seen growth rates far beyond any of the supposedly wiser-than-populist policies of the U.S. experts whom they previously followed.

And that growth is benefiting those nations' majorities more than ever -- while still achieving macro-economic growth which is better for corporations as well.

So there are now a large number of people at least outside the U.S. who feel like they've seen objective benefits to a progressive populist economic agenda.

Yep. The sad this is the ENTIRE SPECTRUM of "left/right" in the US is so far to the right that what is considered "left" by the MSM is just bullsh!t.

As an American who spent some time living in New Zealand, I was shocked by the differences in social attitudes, religious attitudes, political attitudes. The entire cultural climate there is different as it is in many other devleloped nations.

Even on some issues in NZ, conservatives there would be branded as "liberals."

Americans are so insular when it comes to the way other people live-- if they'd open their eyes & really look around & get off their high horse & realise that maybe we could learn some things from other countries we could adopt (and adapt) some of those policies in ways that would be so beneficial to everyone. Which is not to say we should DUPLICATE those programs (some do not work or could be improved upon).

The MSM's labeling of the left & right in the US is downright criminal. Conservatives here have set the terms of the debate & liberals can do nothing but try to play on the defensive. Its a losing battle.

I don't think most Americans realise just how BACKWARDS we are perceived by people in other developed countries. Well, there's a lot of truth to that perception, but its hard to see when so many people prefer insularity (the opposite of insularity is... *gasp!* internationalism! communism! etc. etc.)

I think you've got it right, Matt. But I also think it's a reprehensible way to divide people. Blaming the problems of America on the rich is as morally questionalbe as blaming the problems of America on gays or welfare queens or foreigners.

In Europe, you don't see that kind of thing much. Business, government, and labor tend to be more cooperative and less confrontational. Over here, our politicians try to divide us and breed resentment.

The FT's perspective is influenced, in part, by the stylistic tack of the Conservatives under David Cameron. Certain British commentators on the right had long argued that the way out of the doldrums was a kind of libertarian populism: stop arguing about the EU and start talking about personal freedoms.

Blaming the problems of America on the rich is as morally questionalbe as blaming the problems of America on gays or welfare queens or foreigners.

Uh-huh. If the American political system were not greased with greenbacks, I'd take you seriously on that point. The kerfuffle over private equity taxation shows just who has a grip on Chuck Schumer's balls, and it ain't the people in the Bronx -- or Saratoga Springs, for that matter.

And come back to me when corporate fraudsters get the same sentences as house-burglars, and when coke snorters get the same sentences as crack smokers.

I sometimes wonder whether the nature of American politics has something to do with how it was gearing up for a civil war over chattel slavery while Europe was busy having revolutions.

(As an aside, there was an interesting story on NPR this morning about Latin American immigrants going to Spain rather than the US. Easy to understand why.)

he talks about wresting control over the government from entrenched economic elites and deploying its power on behalf of ordinary people.

That's pretty funny in light of Edwards' appearance at the 2004Bilderberg convention. I'm sure he went there just to fight the power.

Another example of Edwards being a fake is his complaints about Two Americas [TM] combined with his support for massive illegal immigration.

Blaming the problems of America on the rich is as morally questionalbe as blaming the problems of America on gays or welfare queens or foreigners.

Hmmm. I'm not so sure about this. First, I'm not sure Edwards - even with his "full-throated populism," and even agreeing with Matt's take re: populism being a tone/style rather than an agenda per se - is "blaming the problems of America on the rich" so much as he's highlighting existing inequalities. There's a difference. For example, Edwards isn't saying health care is broken because of the rich; rather, he's saying that the rich can afford to ignore the problem in a unique and politically problematic way. That's a substantive distinction. Also, even with regards to trade, where Edwards attacks NAFTA because it benefits multinational corporations over American workers, he's not blaming the rich for what he perceives to be the problem; rather, he's arguing that it was a deal designed to (and analyzed in terms of its ability to) deliver benefits to corporations. That's more nuanced than "blaming the rich," and to classify these arguments solely as "class war" or a "blame game" misses their basic appeal to equal consideration of interests, which I think is at their heart.

In Europe, you don't see that kind of thing much. Business, government, and labor tend to be more cooperative and less confrontational. Over here, our politicians try to divide us and breed resentment.

Maybe. But to the extent that European political units are indeed less confrontational, perhaps the explanation lies in the fact that western Europeans already have things like health care. When such "big ticket items" are granted as a matter of course, maybe it follows logically that the ensuing debate is less likely to be framed in the tired, polarized terms so familiar here.

I think Miller's missing an important point.

Yes, almost all British/European conservative policy is actually to the left of that of the Democrats, but that's not because American politics has been dragged to the right.

Thatcher and Cameron have to plead affection for the NHS, etc. because it has been around for half a century and, guess what, "free" stuff is a vote winner (now that is populism).

If you asked Thatcher or Cameron to design their dream healthcare policies on a blank canvas, what they came up with would look a lot more like Republican healthcare policies than Edwardsian ones.

I don't think anybody is "blaming" the problems of America on the rich, so much as pointing out that in America the rich are extremely more powerful than any other group. And that in as much as one sees problems in America, it seems reasonable to ask what the people with the most power do to perpetuate (or solve) those problems.
And because of this vast power differential, if one were blaming the rich, then no, it would not really be analogous at all to blaming groups with little to no real influence like welfare recipients, foreigners or gay people.

Coverage of the 2008 campaigns thus far signals that the populist candidate will be:

1. Anti-China
2. Anti-Free Trade
3. Pro-Health Care Reform (of any kind)

Said candidates talking points will focus on

1. "The American worker" (with little concern for that workers cost of living)
2. "The outsourcing of America's jobs" (despite evidence to the contrary)
3. Victims (of Katrina, globalization...)

Yes, populism is fashioned by candidates, but equally so by the media.

What a bizarre argument-US standards of political choice are somehow incorrect because they don't match British (or Kiwi) standards?

An alternative view would be that British and Kiwi standards skew unnaturally to the left, because they are so far left of US standards.
Similarly, an alternative would be to argue that because 'conservative' in the US would actually get you stoned or beheaded for apostasy in Saudi Arabia, the US must be unnaturally liberal. But admitting this would be admitting that the entire effort is arbitrary. The US has a more conservative perspective because the US is a more conservative country. Believe it or not, different countries have different standards of political choice and behavior. They also elect different people as politicians. Go figure.

"Over three decades, America's conservative movement has so deftly shifted the boundaries of debate to the right..." Why is this controversial? America's conservative movement represents roughly half the electorate (i.e. roughly half the political power in the country). Isn't that what you would expect in a democracy? Perhaps a reasonable rewrite: "Over three decades, America's conservative movement has deftly used their political power to advance their political preferences."

You all seem to have the political perspective that the political system is unjust or unfair because you lose political arguments within it.

BTW: "...even modest adjustments to the market system..." Yes, nationalizing health care is 'modest adjustment to the market system.'
Sheesh.

"As an aside, there was an interesting story on NPR this morning about Latin American immigrants going to Spain rather than the US. Easy to understand why"

Perhaps because they speak Spanish?

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How's BigMediaBlog coming on, Wack O'? Isn't it a bit embarrassing that you created your own blog to provide one-post comment threads to stories that weren't sufficiently alarmed about the ImpendingBrownMenaceFromDownSouth?

Believe it or not, different countries have different standards of political choice and behavior. They also elect different people as politicians. Go figure.

Believe it or not, some people think they're really smart when making really dumb analogies. Go figure. But if you're happy with 'we're more liberal than Saudi Arabia' as your slogan, don't let me stop you. Perhaps your candidate will win votes in Colorado with it.

"That said, I do think one of the main things this illustrates is another point entirely -- the extent to which populism is a style rather than an ideology ... Populism is a real thing, and a quite analytically useful category, but it's not a kind of policy agenda, it's a kind of way of talking about policy."

It's a "style". It's a "way of talking about policy".

No.

There's a handy word that far better describes the point you're flailing for.

That word is "politics".

You're most clueless when you fall into a mindset where politics is this kind of odd distraction from policy. It's a really bad way of looking at things that will inevitably lead to faulty conclusions.

As a thought experiment here, try to figure out why Ronald Reagan is the godfather of modern conservatism. Was it his policy? Or was it his politics.

An alternative view would be that British and Kiwi standards skew unnaturally to the left, because they are so far left of US standards. Similarly, an alternative would be to argue that because 'conservative' in the US would actually get you stoned or beheaded for apostasy in Saudi Arabia, the US must be unnaturally liberal.

Surely there must be conservatives in America who aren't drooling cretins. But where?

Welfare Queens? Using that term exposes you as the craven winger you are. Go suck a fat oxyhead's stubby prick and vote Romney '08. Clinton hijacked the middle, took up Free Trade and interventionism, and pushed the GOP rightwards whilst alienating the progressive left. In consolidating his own power in the name of pragmatism, he severely tilted the discourse, and today people can call Hillary Clinton a "liberal" without flinching.

Every political culture develops its own foibles specific to the climate. Japan's INSCRUTABLE (hai!) politics center more around a kind of power dance than political spectrum, just as Italian politics orbit around strong jowly men with too many baby shark teeth. US politics are about enriching and insulating the rich whilst convincing ignorant, healthcare-less yokels to consistently vote against their interests in fear of the brown man even after their undereducated children are conscripted out from under them.

Welfare queens are a fat racists' invention.

In Europe, you don't see that kind of thing much. Business, government, and labor tend to be more cooperative and less confrontational. Over here, our politicians try to divide us and breed resentment.

Because Europe is primarily composed of nation-states the tribal breakdown is much different than in the US. If you are a Swede, the "us" tribe is other Swedes, and the "them" tribes are the Norwegians, Finns, Russians, etc. If you are a Swede and you support social welfare programs, you are supporting your own.

Here in the US we are a giant polyglot nation with thousands of ethnic, class, and regional dividing lines. If you are a Republican farmer in Texas you oppose social welfare programs because you are utterly convinced that such programs are simply a scam by the brown and black urban poor (and the politicians who support them) to take your hard-earned dollars and waste them on people in the inner cities who are too lazy to help themselves. You believe this because Rush Limbaugh and his ilk are telling you this 24 hours/day over the radio in your air-conditioned tractor cab. And the point is made crystal clear every three months when you struggle to pull together enough cash to make your quarterly estimated tax payment. And you believe your money is being spent on welfare programs in far-off coastal cities that you've never even seen. And you are blind to the fact that as a commodities farmer you receive far more "welfare" than an entire block of immigrant poor in NYC.

This is the reason that European-style social welfare programs will ever take hold in the US, not because the US is somehow more insular or backwards than the rest of the world, but because the tribal divisions are within the US not without.


The term was used in order to highlight how politicians try to divide us.

As for whether Edwards blames the rich or not, his rhetoric about fighting against business and how he's been fighting business all his life turns me off. Especially since he doesn't mean half of it. Oh sure, he'll fight Big Oil and Big Pharma, but he won't dare mess with Big Aerospace or Big Lumber or Big Auto. Because those are primarily Democratic business constituencies.

What Edwards really means is that he'll fight pro-REPUBLICAN businesses.

Anyway, my point is that at it's core, populism is all about blaming the ills of a country on a minority, whether it's the right-wing version or the left-wing version.

What scares me is that some of you actually believe that the ills of this country could actually be addressed if only we'd lessen the power of the rich and pro-Republican Big Business.

No country has ever, EVER, bettered itself this way. Countries always move forward through cooperation, not bitter divisiness and sense of entitlement. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton seem to get this(as does John McCain on the GOP side). Edwards and of course the rest of the GOP) do not.

@Adam Herman: Aren't you listening? It's those fat lazy Welfare Queens sucking up all the resources!

Yes, Adam, after all, politics never involves situations in which one side must win and one side must lose because their interests on a specific issue are not reconcilable.

Re: The MSM's labeling of the left & right in the US is downright criminal.

I don't see anything to fault media on. It's just reflecting the basic truth: the American p[olitical landscapre IS more conervative than than the European political landscape (and always has been). "Let" and "righT" are relative terms, meaning simply "left of the local political center" and "to the right of the local political center". There's no such thing as "aboslute left" or an "absolute right", a universal standard by which all politics everywhere could be assigned labels.

Re: I sometimes wonder whether the nature of American politics has something to do with how it was gearing up for a civil war over chattel slavery while Europe was busy having revolutions.

Our Civil War was in many ways the equivalent of Europe's revolutions: a fight about the basic liberty of the people, in our case slaves, in Europe's case the lower classes in general. And not every European country had a revolution. The Dutch didn't. Nor did the Scandinavians.

Re: Why is this controversial? America's conservative movement represents roughly half the electorate

Um, that's not true. The conservative movement represents, at most, about 35% of the electorate. And yes, liberals represent somewhat less than that (~25%-~30).

Re: Because Europe is primarily composed of nation-states the tribal breakdown is much different than in the US.

Many European nations do have ethnic minorities, even apart from recent immigrants: the Scots and the Welsh in Great Britain, Bretons in France, Basques and Catalans in Spain, and, yes, the Lapps in Sweden. Not to mention the Gypsies and the Jews, albeit both groups were decimated by the Third Reich.

I think you're missing the point. Sure, pharma companies will probably lose out a little on universal health care. Sure, Big Oil will lose out if we impose environmental regulations to combat global warming.

But the issue is combating global warming in this case, or getting universal health care, not demonizing the opponents of it. Big Auto also opposed most environmental regulation, but because the UAW is a very important Democratic constituency, criticism of Big Auto tends to be rather muted, or nonexistent. And they have just as much clout as Big Oil. Probably more if you combine the UAW with them in terms of being unified on the subject.

The upshot of all this is that average Americans are essentially told that they have no responsibility and that no costs will be imposed on them. It's all the other guy's fault and the other guy will be made to pay. And the other guy just HAPPENS to be a supporter of the other side.

That's irresponsible politics, and what's more it breeds hate and resentment.

Adam, you can't create an entire governing philosophy based on, "whatever we do, we have to reach a consensus." It just doesn't work like that, and it's a formula for a rather nihilistic approach to policymaking. Any Democrat, to government effectively, is going to have to clean house of the Republican corruption that did a lot of damage to so many government agencies over the years. Those people who particpated in that? Well, they're going to lose. The global warming denialists aren't going to "get a seat at the table" when it comes to making policy. And the interest groups that function to oppose better environmental policies and health care reform are going to have to have their backs broken.

It is now well-known that the biggest problem with the Clinton health care reform plan in '93 was that it tried to get the insurance companies on board because "they were all in this together." That turned out not to work because they realized that they could get a better deal by opposing it. In this day and age (ESPECIALLY now), the issues confronting the country are ones in which we don't face a lack of compromise but issues where there are many diametrically opposed interests involved, and we have to accept that progress is going to only come as a result of showing the opposition that the choice is a "bad deal" and a "worse deal" for them, and hope that they opt for accepting a "bad deal."
It's not "irresponsible politics." It's necessaryy politics. The Republicans set about suing lots of the Clintons' aides into bankruptcy and screwing over his policy proposals, and he came into office under the banner of a new, centrist era. What do you think will happen to any political leader who doesn't realize that he's up against people who want to defeat him? More importantly, what do you think will happen to our interests if we elect a politician that doesn't believe our interests are worth playing to win?

You're confusing me with Barack Obama or something. I'm not saying we need consensus on everything. I'm saying that politicians should propose their policies and have them stand or fall on their own merits. Policies should be sold for the POSITIVE things they will accomplish, not as a way to stick it to whatever interest group you don't like.

Secondly, politicians should be honest about what policies will entail in terms of costs and regulations. Too often politicians assure us that only "the other" will be affected by the new laws, and only "the other" will pay. That's wrong.

All I want is to avoid the demonization and be straight with Americans about what it will cost to do things like provide universal health care or combat global warming. It's never the car driver's fault, or even the automakers' fault, it's the oil companies. And then when gas prices go up because of restrictions on oil companies, it's still the oil companies' fault, simply because they are the only political punching bag Democrats can safely attack. Republicans do the same thing with immigration. Listening to half of them right now, you'd think illegals were the cause of almost all of our problems.

It's a stupid political strategy as well, because no Democrat has won in recent times with a populist strategy. Bill Clinton sure didn't. Jimmy Carter didn't. Kennedy sure as hell didn't. All three went out of their way to assure business that they were pro-business and that we should all work together and make sacrifices together to solve our problems. Business wasn't always on board, and sometimes took lumps as a result of legislation, and that's fine. That's democracy.

But what Edwards is doing is portraying the fight against poverty as a fight against powerful interests. Bill Clinton, who knows a little something about fighting poverty, seeing as how he helped reduce it substantially in his eight years as President, preached personal responsibility and acted to maximize economic growth. Edwards proposes to roll back most of the Clinton era reforms. Balanced budgets? Not important! Free trade? Bad for workers and benefits Big Business! Taxes? Raise 'em! Bring the country together? Two Americas!

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama get it. I think McCain gets it too, although I wish he'd come out with an anti-poverty agenda. But Edwards? He might as well be Lou Dobbs.

Excellent, Matt. Populism in itself says nothing about policy. Reagan was a populist.

Spades must be called spades; the real disease, grown out of the corporate stranglehold on the media, is the FauxNews(TM) Fair and Balanced-itis. Fred Phelps says "God Hates Fags," so Faux invites him on and pits him against a gay 19 yr old college student. That is the MSM's idea of fair and balanced. As evidenced by the evolution "debate," the global warming "debate," and the Iraq war "debate," certain interests are very intent on ignoring or shouting down facts that don't gibe with their particular worldview or agenda. This is not debate; it is bullying, manipulation, and distortion of truth. The real battle is not between left and right, it is between right and wrong. And most "right" wingers are dead fucking wrong, in the most objective way possible.

Adam, I think it is clear that you are exaggerating Edwards' claims for comic effect. His campaign has made it clear whose side he's on and what he wants to do, but he's not demonizing anyone, except perhaps the Republicans. And you know what? The Republicans want to wipe him and the Democrats out (electorally speaking), so why should he ever react any differently? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth here-- one one hand you seem to concede that the global warming denialists don't get to have a seat at the table. On the other hand, you're upset that we might have to run an active campaign against them-- because lord knows that they're going to be doing the same to us.

Let's go back to what Matt said: Populism is a WAY of talking about policy. It is not a set of policies in themselves.

And the way of talking we are referring to is the blaming of others for our problems. At it's crux, this is what populism is all about, whether from left, right, or center.

My opinion is that this is an irresponsible, even hateful at times, way of building support for policies. There are good reasons to support universal health care. The fact that insurance companies make large profits isn't one of them. There are good reasons to support legislation to combat global warming. Oil company profits are not one of them. There are good reasons to support border control. Mexicans "stealin' our jobs" isn't one of them. There are good reasons to support fair trade. Indians taking IT jobs isn't one of them.

In each case, the primary rationale cited by the demagogue is blame of another party. "Your problems are not your fault, and you shouldn't have to make any effort to fix them other than to elect me. I will fight against the bad people and get you what you are entitled to."

That's not to say there is never a reason to attack a special interest. But Edwards is making it the centerpiece of his campaign. He'll fight the big bad pro-Republican businesses like he did when he was a trial lawyer. Nothing is asked of average Americans.

Obama, by contrast, is a uniting figure. There is very little daylight between Obama and Edwards' actual positions, as Matt himself has pointed out here numerous times. It's how he talks about policy that makes him different. Obama is about "we". Edwards is about "us and them".

And no sooner do I mention the greatness of Bill Clinton than John Edwards takes a dump on him:

Democratic presidential contender John Edwards on Monday criticized former President Clinton, arguing that he allowed corporate insiders to shape the 1993 North American Free Trade Agreement and sacrifice U.S. jobs.

See, it's all about "corporations" again. Never mind that unemployment has gone DOWN since NAFTA was ratified. Never mind that median wages have gone UP since NAFTA was ratified. Never mind that Bill Clinton worked hard to get labor standards and environmental standards into the treaty.

Like most populists, Edwards is ignorant to boot. Who will his VP be? Ross Perot? Pat Buchanan?

@ NAFTAdam Herman: Eugene V. Debs.

"I think it is clear that you are exaggerating Edwards' claims for comic effect. His campaign has made it clear whose side he's on and what he wants to do"

And that's no small matter.

That simple thing, along with winning a general election on that basis, can enable a lot of movement in the political mainstream.

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"Like most populists, Edwards is ignorant to boot. Who will his VP be? Ross Perot? Pat Buchanan?"

Barack Obama.

You confuse "populism" with "no-nothingism" here, Adam.

They're in same broad branch of the political tree, but they're fundamentally different ideologies with fundamentally different effects on policy and politics.

Seems to me that the only difference between you and the no-nothings is that you disagree on who is to blame.

"Seems to me that the only difference between you and the no-nothings is that you disagree on who is to blame."

It must be lonely being part of the Joe Lieberman / Mark Penn wing of the Party, Adam Herman.

Herman sounds like an HRC man all the way; she's the only REASONABLE choice.

Actually, I'm for Obama, although I'm also a John Mccain fan. And yes, I love Joe Lieberman. Sue me.

I just don't like the politics of us against them, that's all. As for being lonely, my type of candidate usually wins elections, not populists. And I guarantee that's not about to change in 2008.

While the Broders of the world may have too much of a "split the middle" bipartisanship fetish, they are right about one thing: Americans don't want the politics of division and blame. They want the politics of hope and moving forward together. Barack Obama has based his campaign around that. Edwards has based his campaign around the opposite.

Re: Fred Phelps says "God Hates Fags," so Faux invites him on and pits him against a gay 19 yr old college student.

Did this really happen? I'd be surprised if anyone with a wit of sense in their head would use Fred Phelps as the champion of any cause. He's pretty well-hated on the Right too (picketing military funerals, "God hates America", etc.) and even if his debate opponent were Paris Hilton he'd come off looking like an unraveled fanatic who would make his cause look appalling.

Fox News also loves to have Kucinich and Bernie Sanders on their shows.

Their supporters should wonder why Fox loves to give them a platform.

Did this really happen? I'd be surprised if anyone with a wit of sense in their head would use Fred Phelps as the champion of any cause. He's pretty well-hated on the Right too (picketing military funerals, "God hates America", etc.) and even if his debate opponent were Paris Hilton he'd come off looking like an unraveled fanatic who would make his cause look appalling.

You don't understand how "news" channels like Fox operate. They couldn't give the slightest shit about actually constructing a reasonable debate between two articulate representatives on the opposite sides of issues. They just want to see a food fight for the entertainment value and manufactured "controversy" for the ratings. Most of their conservative guests are unraveled lunatics. Ann Colter is just as unhinged as Fred Phelps.

Re: Ann Colter is just as unhinged as Fred Phelps.

Actually, no. Ms Coulter is very careful to keep her outrages focused and targeted, staying barely within the bounds of respectability. She is therefore a good deal richer and more welcome as a guest than Fred Phelps.

There are two different meanings of the term populist; it's both a style (what Matt Y is talking about)AND an ideology shared by some of the leftwards leaning stylistic populists. I think we all knew what Matt Miller meant in this context - a set of economic-interventionist policies designed to appeal to Joe Sixpack at the expense of his boss and the "elitists."

In essence, New Deal-ism on crack.

One can support economic-interventionist policies without being a stylistic populist, although a politician who does that is likely to find himself branded a wishy-washy bleeding heart, or worse, find himself without a substantial constituency (the voters just love to hear a politician say "I want to raise the turnip tax... for the children!"). On the other hand, such a politician would likely not offend anyone, which I suppose makes him "electable."


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