« The Clinton Plan | Main | Hitchens Is Making Sense » Betrayal17 Sep 2007 01:50 pm I know a lot of folks who are upset at MoveOn for the General Betrayus thing, but via Matt Stoller here comes a different use of the "Betrayal of Trust" theme that I think Democrats will be pretty happy with: Here's some background from Fred Kaplan on Giuliani's deciding he'd rather cash in than try to serve his country on the Baker-Hamilton Commission. Comments (11)
Bill Clinton has also spent a lot of time making money and I don't see anything wrong with that. Giuliani had spend a long time in public service, first prosecuting mafia men and Wall Street crooks and then getting New York City in order as mayor. He wasn't making nearly as much as he could have outside of government, so when he was no longer mayor he decided to pay more attention to his personal finances. Good for him. 
For moveon.org America is being betrayed at every turn. The general leading our troops, the Republican mayor who was shocked that Hillary called him a liar, everywhere America is is threatened by bu the near enemy. When will someone tell the American people the truth? Maybe they can elect Ned Lamont so he can convene some hearings to root out the fifth column. Or better yet, moveon.org could get all their new "progressive" house members to put together some kind of Unamerican Activities Committee and get to the bottom of this. Eli Pariser, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you and your fellow patriots.
Forgot to mention that Rudy also needed to spend time with his wife and kids.
Matt, I suspect that you don't really care about this but view it as a possible political gotcha. I'd vote for Stringer Bell before I'd vote for Rudy, but view this as silly.
A. I too would vote for Stringer Bell, probably over almost anyone. Competence is my issue. B. Service or non-service on a blue-ribbon commission (i.e. high falutin' delaying tactic) just doesn't strike me as a question of honor. If Benedict Arnold had failed to show up for the Style Committee at the constitutional convention, I don't think his name would have lived on in infamy.
Stringer Bell's competence was questionable, to say the least.
They -- make that we, as I'm a member -- got three huge points out there in a big way: a) betrayal as a moral issue, and speaking out against it is a duty The double standard of the allegedly liberal media to rack up denunciations of MoveOn is (pardon the pun) petarded. Related: McCain's simultaneous weekend flameout while attempting to ride the Petraeus bandwagon (via TPM)
live: Scandalous! Stringer Bell brought peace, efficiency, and prosperity to the Baltimore drug trade. His demise can be traced to Avon's dogged and puerile insistence on his 'corners,' not any persistent operational failure. Ellie: I wouldn't dispute that moveon is making a splashy presentation. But when you put "points out there in a big way", it helps if they're salient. I think if you survey the polls and the media coverage of the Petraeus ad, you'll find that the charge hardly stuck. And, as I said above, I don't see how the Giuliani charge is going to stick either.
The Giuliani thing should get traction because his thing is how he's a great foreign policy expert and wonderful terrorist-fighter, but he passed on helping America when he had a chance. I doubt anyone begrudges his paid speeches, but if you want to be President you should put public service first.
"he gave speeches....FOR MONEY" the horror of it all. he actually made money. a former public servant. awful behavior.
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A betrayal of whose trust? People who supported the war? He didn't betray MY trust by not "showing up." I wouldn't trust him anywhere near a war.
Posted by Bill | September 17, 2007 2:01 PM