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28 Sep 2007 05:24 pm

Peter Baker at the Post may have totally dropped the ball in his coverage of the fake Bush fake climate change fake conference (it's fake, you see), but The New York Times's John Broder knows how to add value for his readers:

The president’s calls for each country to decide for itself how to rein in pollution, and his refusal to embrace mandatory measures, have set the United States apart from other countries, and this morning’s appearance at the State Department conference probably did not do much to change that situation.

“Smart technology does not just materialize by itself,” John Ashton, a special adviser on climate change to the British foreign secretary, said afterward. Mr. Ashton, who has said that voluntary measures are ineffective, said “smart technology” requires government commitment and investment, and he noted that Mr. Bush did not state a specific goal for reducing carbon emissions.

He also quotes Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: "Every country will make its own decisions reflecting its own needs and interests." The trouble, of course, is that we're facing a common problem here. It'd be nice for each country to be able to make an individualized determination of its view of the growth-warming tradeoff and then we all see how it plays out, but that's not the nature of the atmosphere or the climate. Any sensible approach needs to be sensitive to the different needs and circumstances of different countries, but unless it's driven by a common purpose and a common commitment it won't accomplish anything. Which, of course, is the point. As Kate Sheppard says the point of the summit isn't to bolster Bush's legacy, instead, it's all about "fanciful promises, denial of what needs to be done to tackle climate change, and subversion of the efforts of everyone who actually gets it."

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I applaud the administrations noncommittal words. Sure, we have a common purpose in reducing man made green houses. But we are a long, long way from knowing by how much, to what effect and at what cost. We're still too ignorant to act decisively.

What would really suck is if something like Kyoto, which does not even try to reduce the current production of a single greenhouse gas, becomes a common crusade, is adopted and we all say, "great, we're done." This is an enormous scientific endeavor still in its infancy. I like the idea of a lot of different researchers taking different approaches, making different recommendations. France will build nuclear power, we will create wind farms (but not in Malibu or Nantucket!), and the Chinese will kill off an enormous chunk of their population (and future polluters) through environmental devastation.


Mandatory, shmandatory. Who's going to enforce these "mandatory" standards if they are adopted? No one. Yes, a country might try harder to adopt a standard or achieve a goal if it has made a formal treaty committment to do so, but it's still just an empty promise. If a country finds the cost of compliance to be too high, it's going to bail.

"Every country will make its own decisions reflecting its own needs and interests."

But . . . isn't this how we got into (climate . . . and other) trouble in the first place?

Oh, well.

Who is going to enforce the "mandatory" standards?

For USA to raise this issue is the pinnacle of hypocrisy. If we do not want standards, it is hard to force us. But if we joint the effort, the enforcement is simplicity itself. Relatively mild trade sanctions should be more than enough. EU has decent internal enforcement methods, Japan is not averse to join, and combined markets and financial clout of EU, USA and Japan are enough to convince everybody.

Compaining that Kioto is not nearly ambitious enough is almost as hypocritical. First we negotiate like madmen to keep the goals modest, next we reject the threaty anyway, and THEN we say it is too modest?

Those who torture people torture logic as well.

Seeing as Texas pumps out over 25% of America's total CO2 emissions, I'm surprised Condi Rice [R- Chevron] didn't call for states to set their own goals.

"Every country will make its own decisions reflecting its own needs and interests."

But . . . isn't this how we got into (climate . . . and other) trouble in the first place?

Oh, well.

Yes, let's do everything we can to ensure a moral hazard problem. The main reason that this is a problem in the first place is that every country has already been making its own decisions reflecting its (narrowly defined and extremely short termed) needs and interests. It's like they're lying to us or just clueless, or maybe even both...

But . . . isn't this how we got into (climate . . . and other) trouble in the first place?

No, of course not. We've been spewing greenhouse gases into the atmosphere for two centruies, but scientists didn't even know that global warming was a problem until 10 or 20 years ago.

Relatively mild trade sanctions should be more than enough.

Ah, right. Like the sanctions Kyoto-supporting countries have imposed on the U.S., China, Australia, etc. for not joining the treaty.

"“Smart technology does not just materialize by itself,” John Ashton"

Agreed, the first step is a knowledgeable populace led by knowledgeable leaders.

We seem to have a bit of a dearth of both, lately.

BBC has a similar take as well: Critics angry at Bush climate plan.

I heard a Rice audio snippet from that conference, all about how the U.S. was asserting "leadership" on this vital issue. It sounded completely removed from reality: Increasingly, more and more countries are working around, not with, surely not behind the American government.

Do any conservatives/libertarians understand the prisoners' dilemma?

"Every country will make its own decisions reflecting its own needs and interests."

"We all understand that ultimately, the ball needs to go into the basket. But each player will make his own decisions on how to get the ball into the basket, reflecting his own needs and interests."

-- Meadowlark Lemon


Well, everybody has been harping on President Bush to show some leadership in this issue of anthropogenic global warming (AGW). So, now he does so, by challenging each nation to 'look into their heart' and decide for themselves what is the right thing. This is definitely different than the stampede the Left has been attempting with trying to have the UN or some other globalization body to force measures on each sovereign nation.

I see...if you don't like the leadership he shows (because it doesn't agree with your viewpoint), then he isn't really leading, he's a (tool of globalisation/pawn of corporations/only looking out for the rich, etc.).

Actually, Bush is trying to subvert national sovereignty, just like the Demos and neocons want to do. In another 5 years, folks, we will be part of the North American Union, and there is nothing you can do about it! A wish fulfilled.


beneficial, that's great! Seeing challenges to sovereignty in treaty commitments reminds me of The Far Side horse veterinarian joke.

As for Bush's leadership or lack of, he is advocating a "Fuck Off" course of action, but he doesn't actually say that. He perfumes it with evasions. You people who see leadership in perfumed evasions have a different idea of leadership than the rest of us. Ordinarily, people resorting to perfumed evasions are called "cowards".

"In another 5 years, folks, we will be part of the North American Union, and there is nothing you can do about it! A wish fulfilled."

I call dibs on designing the new flag, something with a bit of chartreuse, floral pattern perhaps, with a nice decorative fringe...

And the new national anthem, ...., something with a good beat that I can dance to.

Actually, I kind of like the colourfulness of the Brazilian flag, and their music beat too. Perhaps, if you'd look into that nice green colour for our hardworking Green Movements, with a little blue (but the sky/powder puff blue of the earth, not that dark blue of the US flag, with all its neocolonial expansionist history associated with it), and the yellow and yes, a dash of red to be all inclusive in our appreciation of relilgions everywhere.

Green, powder blue, yellow and red? Sounds like we have a new color palette for the contestants on this season's Project Runway.


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