Most of them lurking in the comment thread here, though the allegations have also been reported by Duncan Black. It seems to me that he's going to have to answer these charges.
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Kaus Haunted By Goat-Blowing Allegations
15 Oct 2007 07:35 am
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Y'know, I'd like to make it clear that I'm not alleging that Mickey Kaus actually blows goats.
My only criticism here is that Mickey's non-denial denial is lousy politics. If Mickey is blowing goats, his response won't do anything to quell the rumors. And if he isn't blowing goats, his refusal to categorically deny the rumors won't make the controversy go away.
Billy Gate is really gaining momentum. These allegations are shocking, if true.
We've got photos of Mickey blowing goats.
How do you think we got him to help us spread the Edwards rumor?
Dear Atrios's Hordes,
Kaus admitted it:
P.S.: And both parties deny the affair--it can't be true! I mean, logically it's impossible, right? Who else is there? ...
Thank God the Goats Don't Have E-mail: Yglesias says I'm operating from an "assumption of guilt"
Okay! Go Eschaton! Now, time to advance the story. Call for hearings . . . lay articles of impeachment . . . find a way to keep me interested.
Thanks,
Southpaw
"We've got photos of Mickey blowing goats."
Yeah. Those are the same photos we used in 2004 to get Mickey to sleazily attack John Kerry over another supposed affair.
Remember, the more Democratic politicians we can destroy, the fewer competitors there are for Clinton family members to have to defeat.
Jacob "Strange Bedfellow" Weisberg has copies of the hotel records.
The hoof print's right on there.
We're sitting on the story until we can confirm what housekeeping said about the state of the sheets.
If Kaus wants to put the story behind him and prevent a media firestorm, the best thing he can do is come clean now. Once these stories get going, they take on a momentum of their own.
Congrats to Duncan, Matthew, and Ezra for successfully working the refs.
Mickey feels compelled today to half-heartedly attack Andrew Sullivan from the left over Elizabeth McCaughey's TNR article.
Since this is the first time in more than a decade that Kaus has felt compelled to attack anyone on the planet from the left, I'd say the utterly truthful goat fucking allegations are achieving their intended purpose.
As Mickey sez:
But since McCaughey's article had (as I remember it) the unswerving support of his magazine's owner, it hardly took courage in any case to publish it.
Moral of the story: if you reveal Mickey Kaus' shameful private life blowing goats, he'll adopt a slightly less offensive political stance.
Petey's got Kaus's shtick down to a science.
I think Kaus should at least acknowledge that his acceptance of anonymous Friend-of-a-Friend accusations means that, well, yes, he does, in fact, blow goats. Good for the goose, good for the goner.
Besides, the guy has a serious hair problem.
Petey,
You don't pay much attention to Kaus, do you?
Kaus will attack Andrew Sullivan from any direction for any reason. He hates Andrew Sullivan more than anyone, and Kaus has a lot of hate. I really think that Kaus's homophobia schtick has more to do with pissing off Andy than it does with Kaus's actual feelings for homosexual in general.
As for the Kaus-goat allegations -- I just think it is horrible that anyone would suggest anything so disgusting about a goat.
Kaus is a closted gay man who has dated Ann Coulter (she, of the huge testicles, I mean Adam's apples)
"Kaus will attack Andrew Sullivan from any direction for any reason. He hates Andrew Sullivan more than anyone, and Kaus has a lot of hate. I really think that Kaus's homophobia schtick has more to do with pissing off Andy than it does with Kaus's actual feelings for homosexual in general."
Makes sense.
But I'll still think it's no coincidence that he chose today of all days to publicly side with Ezra Klein.
"You don't pay much attention to Kaus, do you?"
I read him, but I do try not to pay much attention to him.
The goats have just gone on record denying all of this. But Kaus still need to face the real issue: If he had just ignored the allegations, they would have gone away. As it is, the damage is almost entirely self-inflicted.
Now someone needs to go all meta and write a post about how 'people are talking' about Kaus blowing goats and what this will do for his, erm, writing career. Not inquiring into the veracity of the accusation that Kaus blows goats, of course. Simply repeating that Kaus blows goats as often as possible without actually personally accusing Kaus of blowing goats.
…which is of course what you just wrote. No more comments before caffeine.
Kaus will attack Andrew Sullivan from any direction for any reason. He hates Andrew Sullivan more than anyone, and Kaus has a lot of hate. I really think that Kaus's homophobia schtick has more to do with pissing off Andy than it does with Kaus's actual feelings for homosexual in general.
This is quite correct. Sullivan long ago joined Howell Raines, the LA Times editorial board, and John Kerry among the peculiar ranks of Mickey Kaus betes noires. Opinion writing really is a long series of pathological grudge matches to this man.
That said, I'm certain Kaus's homophobia is genuine. The man is a bigot and a troglodyte across the board - see his love for Ann Coulter and his sweaty white terror of the Mexican Menace - and his paranoid fear that Heath Ledger might infect him with Gayness merely complements his longstanding grudge against Sullivan, which as far as I can tell goes back to his days with TNR.
The only factor that drives Kaus to write other than his bigotry and obsessive grudge-keeping is his hatred of American liberalism. His longstanding practice of molesting farm animals appears to be mostly relegated to his private life, however, and hasn't affected his writing in any obvious way.
We should all pitch in and get Mickey a subscription to this publication (PDF):
http://disciplinedminds.tripod.com/goatbulletin.pdf
In the interest of balance, let us keep in mind that some are saying that Kaus no longer blows goats.
Yes, but was it good for the goats?
"His longstanding practice of molesting farm animals appears to be mostly relegated to his private life, however, and hasn't affected his writing in any obvious way."
I'm not sure this is true. I've never known a goat blower who's been willing to publicly espouse progressive causes.
Thus, I must assume that Kaus' antipathy to the left is somehow related to his goat blowing.
Wow, now that I've seen this allegation in several different sources, I'm starting to take them seriously.
"His longstanding practice of molesting farm animals appears to be mostly relegated to his private life, however, and hasn't affected his writing in any obvious way."
This is a fine point. I want to be very clear that in no way do I hold any animosity to the millions of Americans whose sexual preferences run toward the oral servicing of livestock. They are Americans like the rest of us, and their patriotism is not in question.
However, what worries me about Mickey Kaus is not his (alleged) goat-blowing, but the secrecy and condescension with which he has handled the allegations. The question has been raised, does Mickey Kaus think that he's above responding to the American people? People are asking themselves, can we trust Mickey Kaus if he does not respond publicly and forthrightly to these allegations?
"People are asking themselves, can we trust Mickey Kaus if he does not respond publicly and forthrightly to these allegations?"
I haven't been following the story closely, but I was under the impression that Kaus has already admitted to the goat blowing charges.
If anyone can come up with categorical proof showing that Kaus doesn't blows goats, I'll be happy to issue a retraction.
(But considering that the Clinton campaign has photos of Kaus blowing goats that they've been using to blackmail him into sliming Edwards, I'm not sure how Mickey gets out of this one.)
I'm thinking this has to be true. If it wasn't, you'd think you would see at least one goat step forward to deny being blown by Kaus. So far? Only silence!
I haven't been following the story closely, but I was under the impression that Kaus has already admitted to the goat blowing charges.
I would be shirking my journalistic duty if I doubted for a second this anonymously sourced assertion.
While I am glad that Kaus has responded, I worry that this response is too little, too late. The impression that he is out-of-touch with the American people has already been left.
I think the goal of all of this should be to get several people to ask Mickey about his goat-blowing adventures. At some point, his head will surely explode.
"While I am glad that Kaus has responded, I worry that this response is too little, too late. The impression that he is out-of-touch with the American people has already been left."
Kaus' non-denial denial is par for the course in Plano, TX.
But in the rest of America, the widely circulating pictures should be enough to sink him.
Kaus' non-denial denial is par for the course in Plano, TX.
But in the rest of America, the widely circulating pictures should be enough to sink him.
Cocooning Watch. Will Kaus keep writing as if America approves of goat-blowing? Has he been reading so many counter-intuitive Slate articles that he thinks real Americans don't care whether he responds in a timely and not-too-vague, not-too-specific way to the shocking allegations?
"Cocooning Watch. Will Kaus keep writing as if America approves of goat-blowing?"
And remember, while Mickey will remain in the West LA cocoon as long as he can, the evidence gets a bit more conclusive every day...
Let's look at the situation: Atrios says he heard 1) highly suggestive but not-at-all-conclusive moaning noises from a goat, let's call him Billy; 2) a source who says Kaus did tell him conclusively in a phone call and talked openly of goat-blowing. Kaus denies it. Fine--the denial wasn't too vague, as I'd thought when I read what turned out to be a partial quote. But if I were him, I'd stop there. Why add the "made up"? It runs the risk of angering either a) Atrios, making striking back a question of institutional pride; b) poor, lovesick Billy; or c) the source. That's almost certainly not something Kaus would want even if his denial was completely truthful. The smart pundit's course would seem to be to forcefully deny the accusation without cuteness or reservation--but also without personally attacking the accusers. It's a fine line!
I've been doing some digging!
It appears that goat-related items have popped up on Kausfiles in the past:
As we left, we looked back and noticed that about seven or eight of the salesmen whose job it was to tout new $40,000-$100,000 luxury vehicles had gathered around the 38-year-old Goat to ogle and comment. I wish Instapundit had taken a photo of that
Kaus apparently frequents the secretive world of high-class goat hookers.
Most shocking: referring to these living beings as "vehicles" for his sick pleasures. Surely that will not play well in Plano!
"As we left, we looked back and noticed that about seven or eight of the salesmen whose job it was to tout new $40,000-$100,000 luxury vehicles had gathered around the 38-year-old Goat to ogle and comment. I wish Instapundit had taken a photo of that"
I'm sorry. I'm normally pretty tolerant of basic bestiality.
But that's just fucking sick.
No wonder Team Clinton was able to blackmail Mickey into pushing forward the Edwards slander.
Sullivan long ago joined Howell Raines, the LA Times editorial board, and John Kerry among the peculiar ranks of Mickey Kaus betes noires.
I assume they have beef from when they worked together at TNR back in the day.
"I assume they have beef from when they worked together at TNR back in the day."
It still doesn't explain Mickey's mysterious desire to suddenly side with his arch-enemy Ezra Klein just a day after goat-fucking-gate broke.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say we should take this as irrefutable confirmation that Mickey has indeed been blowing goats for quite a while now, and is seeking to hide is shameful proclivities by taking a less offensive political line.
Still no comment from any goat? Proof positive that Kaus is indeed guilty of goat fuc-ing!! Has he said if he's into regualr goats? billygoats? Some exotic kind?
"Still no comment from any goat? Proof positive that Kaus is indeed guilty of goat fuc-ing!"
Multiple goats are confirming the story off-the-record.
However, no goats are yet willing to go on the record with the story. Rumor has it that Kaus is paying off the goats to remain quiet.
Chris Lehane, Roger Altman, and David Kendall are all promising to quash the story for Mickey if he'll continue to try to destroy all Democratic politicians not named Clinton.
Multiple goats are confirming the story off-the-record.
However, no goats are yet willing to go on the record with the story. Rumor has it that Kaus is paying off the goats to remain quiet.
Chris Lehane, Roger Altman, and David Kendall are all promising to quash the story for Mickey if he'll continue to try to destroy all Democratic politicians not named Clinton.
Doesn't seem like they were able to quash it in time. CNN will have it by this afternoon.
My question is how soon will the story expand?
Not only has new, shocking evidence of Kaus' goat-blowing been reported by Citizen Journalists, but he alleges that Glenn Reynolds produces goat pornography!
And Reynolds still has not responded, lending further credence to the allegations!
It's almost too shocking to believe, if the evidence weren't so overwhelming.
Things are moving fast on the goat front. Pictorial evidence:
I wouldn't want to begin to name his cohorts there. Not that we need to name them.
"I assume they have beef from when they worked together at TNR back in the day."
Beef? I thought it was goats? Are there also rumors of Kaus having relations with cattle as well? Will no cattle come forward with information on this as yet unproven rumor?
Matthew,
Why did you link to Kaus and start this discussion? Doesn't you realize that you are falling into the Kaus/VRWC trap by even talking about this? My problem isn't with Kaus. He is just another cog in the VRWC machine. My problem is with people who read him and/or link to him.
Kaus should be treated like Newsmax or World Net "journalists". He is a joke. You laugh at him and move on. You don't actually try to refute what he has said, thus giving him legitimacy.
Sorry, I think there's been a mistake - Kaus was probably having relations with L.L. Cool J, the G.O.A.T.. Ladies may love Cool James, but Mickey takes things a step further.
The bigger question may be, why is Goat Blowing still TPM approved?
Kaus! Do you recall how nuts he was over "Brokeback Mountain." He went on and on in breathless terms about how disgusting it was. How the images of Gyllenhaal and Ledger having sex was sickening and kept him up at night, shaking.
Hell yeah! Imagine being all alone with up there on that mountain with all that sweet, firm livestock. Tell me you didn't get some chills over that scenario....
Still no comment from any goat? Proof positive that Kaus is indeed guilty of goat fuc-ing!!
Look, the allegations are that Kaus blows goats. No reputable source has come forward with anything about fucking goats. This is what happens when angry uncivil internet proles try to "report" stories.
I mean, just the other day somebody said that he saw Kaus blowing dead goats. Fortunately, that ugly rumor got nipped when another guy said that he saw one of the goats move.
Standards, people. Though Kaus' continued reticence about these allegations doesn't help quell this ugliness.....
Apparently this has been going on for a long time . . .
"This is one of the oldest and most effective tricks in politics. Every hack in the business has used it in times of trouble, and it has been elevated to the level of political mythology in a story about one of Lyndon Johnson's early campaigns in Texas. The race was close and Johnson was getting worried. Finally he told his campaign manager to start a massive rumor campaign about [Kaus]'s life-long habit of enjoying carnal knowledge of his own barnyard [billys].
'Christ, we can't get away with calling him a [goat]-fucker, the campaign manager protested. 'Nobody's going to believe a thing like that.'
'I know,' Johnson replied. 'But let's make the sonofabitch deny it.'"
Hunter Thompson, from "Fear and Loathing: on the Campaign Trail '72"
It's obvious from the goats silence that Kaus has engaged in an extensive campaign of witness intimidation.
Not only has new, shocking evidence of Kaus' goat-blowing been reported by Citizen Journalists,...
Advantage: blogosphere!
Goat-blowing now confirmed by Wikipedia:
Mickey Kaus (born 1951) is an American journalist and author best known for writing Kausfiles, a "mostly political" blog featured on Slate.com, and for habitually blowing goats.
Breaking News:
My anonymous sources tell me that there is a shocking new development in the Kaus Case. It's a long known and undisputed fact that Mr. Kaus is a blower of goats. Many goats have bravely come forward and told of their encounters with Mr. Kaus and described the large wads of goat semen deposited into Mr. Kaus' oral cavity.
But as of late last night several new goats have come forward and revealed their highly emotional stories of being blown by Mr. Kaus when they were underage goats.
Many people feel this is the last straw in Goatgate. Consensual man-on-goat sex is one thing, but for Kaus to exploit these kids (that's right "kids" -- look it up) is just going too far.
You heard it here:
Mickey Kaus blows little kids.
Correction: Due to a typographical error, there has been some significant confusion surrounding my earlier report. That report, which characterized Mr. Kaus as a "coprophiliac," was actually intended to describe the Slate writer, best known for his public penchant for goat penis, as a "caprophiliac".
At this time, I have no independent confirmation that, in addition to being a well-known caprophiliac, Mr. Kaus is also a coprophiliac, although I imagine few would be surprised if that were to turn out to be the case.
It is, however, quite suggestive that Mr. Kaus, as of this writing, has not publicly denied being a coprophiliac, feeding speculation that -- in addition to the fact that Mickey Kaus blows little kids -- Mr. Kaus frequently dines on dung as well. My sources have confirmed that Mr. Kaus' breath often smells like shit, which is consistent with the coprophilia charges.
More on this story as it develops...
Just remember the fun isn't this week, month or year. It is in 5 years, when somebody he has never met calls him "goatfucker"
Only then will he understand swiftboating.
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Heads in the Sand
Kaus! Do you recall how nuts he was over "Brokeback Mountain." He went on and on in breathless terms about how disgusting it was. How the images of Gyllenhaal and Ledger having sex was sickening and kept him up at night, shaking. Trembling in anger. How the whole idea of sweaty mansex was so disturbing to his psyche. He probably wrote 20,000 words on the subject. He still gets cold chills when he thinks of Ledger walking around shirtless, bailing hay. And now Edwards. He hates the very idea of that blond beast. Sex. Disgusting. Everyone else seems to be doing it.
Posted by Alex Shapiro | October 15, 2007 8:06 AM