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The Madness of Iraq

29 Oct 2007 10:03 am

As an America, I hope Turkey doesn't launch military strikes in Iraq, as doing so could have very bad consequences for our policies there and for the well-being of American soldiers and civilians living there. As a citizen of the world, I worry that Turkish incursions will just make the situation in a generally troubled part of the world even worse. And even in terms of advice to the Turks, I would caution that the thrill of retaliatory military action will fade and won't solve anything in terms of Turkey's problems vis-à-vis its own Kurdish population and the Kurdish people living near the border with Turkey. That said, I think Kevin Drum's observation that "Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan is sounding eerily similar to the way George Bush sounded in March of 2003" is far too kind to Bush.

When Erdogan says something like "The moment an operation is needed, we will take that step. We don't need to ask anyone's permission" he's talking about a bona fide response to actual PKK terrorist attacks that really have happened. Human history's seen more than its fair share of ill-conceived overreactions to provocations (consider Israel's summer 2006 attacks on Lebanon) but the invasion of Iraq was considerably nuttier than that an enormous overreaction to hypothetical attacks and a nuclear weapons program that didn't exist.

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But isn't the gender balance of Erdogan's advisors more important than whether or not he'll launch ill-advised invasions?

"as an america"?!? wow ... you must have read stephen colbert's new book. and it must work!

Petey,

Your enthusiasm for Edwards reflects well on you, it really does. But he ain't winning. If you can't muster up any enthusiasm for Clinton -- and who could blame you? -- there's lots of exciting House and Senate contests out there for you to invest your emotions (and hopefully time and money) in.

But constant sniping at Clinton? Just moving from pointless & annoying to actively harmful as we head toward the general.

The most troubling outcome of a Turkish military response? Other than all the death and destruction? It will be the successful campaign on the part of Republicans to portray Democrats as being at fault for it happening. If only Democrats had given Bush the money and material he asked for in fighting the Iraq war the Kurdish north would be pacified, peaceful and enjoying the fruits of democracy. They wouldn't feel the need to mess with Turkey, they'd be busy with Nintendo. What, Democrats have given Bush everything he's asked for? Nah, you must be mistaken. They'll fix that misperception soon enough. After all 9/11 was their fault, right?

But constant sniping at Clinton? Just moving from pointless & annoying to actively harmful as we head toward the general.

I wouldn't presume to speak for Petey, but I think the "sniping" is at Matt for his earlier post on the gender ratio of Hilary Clinton's advisors, rather than Clinton herself.

Uhm, James, I read that as suggesting that Hillary's own "gender ratio" is in doubt?

Heh, heh...

"Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan is sounding eerily similar to the way George Bush sounded in March of 2003"

I think that statement is ridiculous. Turkey has endured 3 years of PKK attacks - all since the U.S. decided to go to war in Iraq. There have been constant attacks throughout Turkey since then, including bombs in the capital, Istanbul.

Turkey has been extremely restrained, asking for assurances from the U.S., the Iraqis and the Iraqi Kurds to police the border. Even the latest moves have been used as a diplomatic device to kick the Americans into acting. It's a sad truth that until Turkey threatened to invade, most Americans had no idea there was a problem and the Bush administration was happy to ignore the problem.


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