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Ann Friedman notes that Rudy Giuliani doesn't only have the most male-dominated staff of any presidential candidate, he takes the prize for whitest campaign staff as well, clocking in at a striking 100 percent white. Phoenix Woman terms Team Rudy bad for diversity, but only Giuliani among the major contenders has child molesting priests and mobbed-up former police commissioners in his retinue. It's only diversity in the racial and gender senses that he's lacking. Comments (38)
Not having access to the raw numbers, and judging just from the chart, it seems likely that McCain and Romney each have two recognized minorities on staff (four or even six are outside possibilities). I'm not sure the difference between two and zero is statistically significant (despite the strong impression given by nothing versus something), so it isn't really clear that Giuliani's campaign is truly whiter. I think that if Giuliani really wants to claim the whiter-than-white staff title, he needs to hire some overt racists. 
Now I'm driven to wonder why Clinton's staff is so Azn. I'm not really surprised to see that the Republicans' staffs are all pretty white, nor that Obama's staff has plenty of blacks, nor that Richardson has a lot of Latino staff, nor that Edwards has an all-around fairly diverse staff, but I'm driven to wonder if there's any particular reason Clinton's staff appears to be about 30% Asian -- just the law of small numbers and a moderately improbably statistical coincidence at work, or something else?
Remember that Asians generally allows for Indians along with our general conception of paler asians. That could allow for the greater percentage of asians on Clinton's staff.
But who has the BEST-LOOKING women? It's quality, not quantity, that matters. And what gender are Hillary's Asians? Maybe there are some ping pong ball comments that could be made?
Standard MSM diversity mongering.
Some prospective minority staffers have been in for interviews with Rudy, but the toilet plunger he keeps on his desk made them nervous.
Remember that Asians generally allows for Indians along with our general conception of paler asians. That could allow for the greater percentage of asians on Clinton's staff. I don't see anything explanatory about that. It's not as if they would consider Indian-Americans "Asian" for the purposes of Clinton's campaign and "White" for the purposes of Edwards' campaign or anything.
Wow, Giuliani's staff is as white as the Atlantic's team of in-house bloggers.
More evidence that Rudy's going to win, alas.
Child-molesting priests don't count. I'd be impressed if Giuliani had a priest friend or two who'd spent years working in Central America or running a soup kitchen, or even just doing his job under difficult circumstances out of the limelight (like most of them do), but I doubt he knows any.
Remember that Asians generally allows for Indians along with our general conception of paler asians. That could allow for the greater percentage of asians on Clinton's staff. Well, we need to find out. I demand a full ethnographic profile of the staffs of all the candidates. Just listing their race won't do! Are we to assume that a Chinese-American man understands the issues, hopes, and dreams of Korean-American women? We need a full breakout by race, gender, age, head shape, country of origin, religion (or lack thereof), head bumps, and more. And, we need it going back for several generations in order to get a full picture of where they stand. Don't rest until you get that, MattY.
Courting the elusive Mafia-American vote?
Yes, Asians are way overrepresented on Clinton's campaign.
"Wow, Giuliani's staff is as white as the Atlantic's team of in-house bloggers." Heh. George W. Bush has appointed how many, four blacks to cabinet-level positions already? Does the Atlantic even employ that many black writers? It seems pretty clear that The Atlantic doesn't value diversity. Why should anyone else?
"Now I'm driven to wonder why Clinton's staff is so Azn. I'm not really surprised to see that the Republicans' staffs are all pretty white, nor that Obama's staff has plenty of blacks, nor that Richardson has a lot of Latino staff, nor that Edwards has an all-around fairly diverse staff, but I'm driven to wonder if there's any particular reason Clinton's staff appears to be about 30% Asian -- just the law of small numbers and a moderately improbably statistical coincidence at work, or something else? Posted by Julian Elson | November 9, 2007 7:58 PM" New York?
"Now I'm driven to wonder why Clinton's staff is so Azn." It may have something to do with the zeal Chinese busboys have for making the maximum allowable annual contributions to Clinton's campaign.
Giuliani may be all white, but it's also the most ethnic campaign.
"Yes, Asians are way overrepresented on Clinton's campaign." And her fundraising scandals, too. Tongue only partially in cheek, I'd suggest that when the mainland Chinese army gives you THAT much money, they like to have some people on site to keep an eye on you. Somewhat more seriously, I bet that the prospect of Hsu spilling his guts about where that money really came from at some critical point in the campaign has gives Hillary some sleepless nights. What is it with the Clintons and foreign donors?
Biden appears to have the staff that "most looks like America", while Clinton has that amazing skew to Asian, and Obama's staff is disproportionately black and Giuliani's is disproportionately white. Though neither Obama or Giuliani have the wierd demographics of Hillary! A more interesting stat might be of the top-top people that ride on the plane with the candidate, are in the war rooms, the top lawyers and local coordinators and consultants on salary - how many are white? And how many of the whites at the top are Jews? The Clintons had piles of black campaign volunteers in 1992, but the prestige jobs of the Clintonistas went to blacks in slightly less than their population proportions, while Jews were disproportionately represented in the Cabinet (~45%) on down through the plum patronage slots. It is reasonable to think Romney has more Mormons on top staff, to think that Hillary has more "diversity shown" in more ivy-league feminist lawyers dominating top staff than other candidates...but surprising that Obama has less blacks and more Jews in top staff than Edwards. Giuliani is also heavily staffed at the top with Jewish advisors, both neocons and the ones that gravitated to him as mayor of NYC and as a media superstar. Alas, while Biden is the most "balanced" in staff selection, his homage, if that what it is, to quotas, won't get him to the Presidency. Like Dodd, Brownback, McCain - he is on a Senator's Obama, though he is raw, inexperienced, with no military or executive credentials - is black and gives lofty, articulate talks - which makes him more ready to run the nation than the other Senators except Hillary! who was in the exacting job of First Lady of Arkansas and DC before becoming a better-than-expected Senator.
Shorter trolls: White is normal. And Hillary's campaign is a takeover by the Chinese.
Well, in this country white is modal, anyway. ;)
BTW, just how stupid is it, that when you're into the comments of a particular post, the "recent comments' column on the right shows only comments for that post? Aren't those comments, by definition, the very last one's you'd need a link to, if you're staring right at them? Somebody ought to fix that.
I'm driven to wonder if there's any particular reason Clinton's staff appears to be about 30% Asian -- just the law of small numbers and a moderately improbably statistical coincidence at work, or something else? As noted above, do the names Norman Hsu, Charlie Trie, John Huang, James Riady, Johnny Chung, and Maria Hsia ring a bell? There's your "something else".
Let's be honest, only idiot liberals pay any attention to this. Hey liberals, why dont you pull your heads out of your asses.
What brought out the proto-fascists this morning? Shouldn't you guys be a Bush rally praising Dear Leader from Whom All Blessings Flow?
Yup, it's sooo fascist to note that the Clintons have a history of campaign finance scandals involving asian donors, and make the linkage between that and the anomalous number of Asians on her staff.
I'd be curious to see how Ron Paul's campaign compares with these other candidates. Given his base of support is very diverse, it would be interesting to see.
New York (and California) are home to the vast majority, and surely even a greatly disproportionate amount, of Asian-Americans. Hillary's campaign is based in New York. Get it?
Since when did Jews become white? Break it out by religion, and Giuliani would have the most minority (religion) heavy group.
Religion is not an ethnicity. I might accept middle eastern or Israeli, but not Jewish as an ethnicity. I would be like calling Tom Cruise a minority because he is a Scientologist. I get that most Jewish parents, like most any religious parents, like their kids to marry people of like mind and religion. This still doesn't constitute an ethnicity. On a different note, Hills' high concentration of Asian staffers is probably due to do the fact that her husband has been in bed with red China for a while. Its not some crazy conspiracy theory, its not a high some quantity of Asians in New York, its the way the world works.
The Canadian census considers "Jewish" as an ethnicity. So did the old Soviet Union. To the extent there are people who call themselves "atheist Jews" (and there are), "Jewish" is obviously an ethnicity. And yeah, Giuliani is the candidate of the PNAC/JINSA crowd. I think it's fair to call him the candidate trying most to appeal to ethnic Jews (socially moderate, hawkish on Israel). Nothing wrong with that.
Why do you not include stats on the gender of their staffs, Yglesias? Did you see this article over the summer: Hillary's all-female team targets women Here's a link, ya partisan clown:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/06/24/wus124.xml
What about Huckabee?
"Yup, it's sooo fascist to note that the Clintons have a history of campaign finance scandals involving asian donors, and make the linkage between that and the anomalous number of Asians on her staff. Posted by Brett Bellmore | November 10, 2007 1:58 PM" Since when does Asian-American = PRC partisans? Not only are a lot of Asian-Americans not Chinese, but a lot of Chinese-Americans are anti-PRC (why do you think their families moved here?). Plus, you also have a bunch of Taiwanese-Americans, Vietnamese-Americans, etc. that are unlikely to be rooting for Beijing.
"Since when does Asian-American = PRC partisans?" Since when did I claim that? You got a reading comprehension problem, or something?
In fairness to the statement that the number of black staffers over represents their population, Chicago has a much higher than average black population and that percentage is actually below the percentages of blacks in Chicago.
Im not surprised by the make up of Giuliani's campaign staff. If you lived in NY during his term as mayor you would know why. I see no significance in the amount of Asians in the Clinton campaign...millions of pre-conceptions can be drawn from these charts,especially if you don't support the candidate.
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Since MattY wants to play games, perhaps he could point out that Obama has over 30% blacks, a figure that overrepresents their population. Likewise with Richardson and Hispanics. And, neither of them have any Asians. Are they racists?
Posted by TLB | November 9, 2007 7:51 PM