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05 Nov 2007 12:06 pm

Some good writing on this subject elsewhere:

To the layman's eye, Musharraf appears to be conducting a stunningly audacious bait-and-switch of employing a lot of rhetoric about Islamic extremism to justify a coup conducted agains the Supreme Court of Pakistan though there's no indication that the Supreme Court is some kind of hotbed of extremism. Indeed, unlike in some other countries (Egypt or Saudi Arabia, say) I don't believe Islamists are the main opponents of the regime at all. Indeed, Musharraf didn't stage his original coup against Islamic extremists, he staged it against Nawaz Sharif who'd come into conflict with the military because of his efforts to promote reconciliation with India.

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With black-suited lawyers manning the protests, it becomes obvious that this is a coup against the rule of law. The PK Supreme Court was poised to rule against Musharraf's election. It's as if Nixon had done the same thing, abolished the existing Supreme Court and then named Carswell Chief Justice, the weekend before our Supreme Court issued its ruling on the 18 1/2 minute gap tape case.

Of course, we have been and will, in reality if not in Condi's stylings, be on the wrong side of this.

Or, if you're looking for actual Pakistanis, try

Manan Ahmed at ChapatiMystery.com and at "Informed Comment Global Affairs", icga.blogspot

A Pakstani group blog with tons of comments, pakistaniat.com

Or Any of the Pakistani Metroblogs (Karachi, Lahore, and Islamabad)

And the ubiquitous Pakistani-American Ali Eteraz has just set up (yet another) new blog: Pakistanpolitics.net

Nitin Pai (not a Pakistani) has an Indian perspective acorn.nationalinterest.in

Comment Number 1 is funny. Look at what the General says on his own website:

Q: Which book have you read recently and
really enjoyed?
A: Leaders by Richard Nixon

Apparently, Musharraf got the idea to compare himself to Lincoln by reading a book by Richard Nixon!

Any layperson in any of the countries of South Asia would have told you a long time ago that Musharraf is playing US for a sucker and will do whatever it takes to cling to power.

One has to be really quite ignorant of the major events on the subcontinent that have transpired in the last sixty years to have not foreseen what is happening in Pakistan.

Musharraf's goons:

In Multan, another city in the province of Punjab, two new judges who had taken the oath of office under emergency rule Sunday were forced to leave the courtroom after hundreds of lawyers threatened to throw eggs at them.

"We threatened them saying: 'You've taken an unconstitutional oath, if you don't go we will throw eggs at you.' They left," said a lawyer from Multan, Riaz Gilani.

Is this a dictatorship or a tea party? His yes-men can't even stand up to a good egging. From another layman's perspective, I predict collapse.

Woah, he's using rhetoric about terrorism and islamic extremists as a justification for doing away with the rule of law? Crazy. I'm so glad it could never happen here. I eagerly await stern words from the state department.

Woah, he's using rhetoric about terrorism and islamic extremists as a justification for doing away with the rule of law? Crazy. I'm so glad it could never happen here. I eagerly await stern words from the state department.

Nawaz Sharif who'd come into conflict with the military because of his efforts to promote reconciliation with India.

Except Nawaz Sharif was from an Islamic-oriented party.

Anyway, I'm not sure if what you state was the main reason for the coup. Nawaz Sharif was no angel, but he was refusing to honor certain agreements with multinationals established under the Bhutto regime ... refusing because these agreements were obtained via bribery.

The army made sure that the agreements were kept, and lo and behold, look who siezed power ... hmmm ...

Can I assume that you meant to list quality/importance from the bottom up, and that Rubin's co-blogger Manan was left off by mistake?

Except Nawaz Sharif was from an Islamic-oriented party.

Sort of. Not really. The PML(N), and the previous Naweaz led parties -- IJI and PIF, are Punjab-based industrialists-dominted parties. They were somewhat more Islamic than the (supposedly) socialist PPP led by Bhutto, but in Pakistan it would be more appropriate to call parties like the jamaat-i-islami (JI), JUI, or JUP as Islamist, as they were generally led by religious scholars.

And Nawaz didn't really get couped because he tried to reconcile with India. We has 'coup'-ed because he tried to fire Musharraf, after emasculating the courts, meddling in the civil service, and generally trying to destroy all institutional obstacles to his power. In 1997, Nawaz' goons stromed the Pakistani Supreme Court and forced the Chief Justice to resign.

Just like Musharraf is doing now.

I want to see a post about how the rule of law no longer counts in the United States what with habeas corpus gone and military commissions replacing due process.

I want to see how this compares to Pakistan and how it fails to compare, etc.

I agree with Ikram, not one Pakistani or South Asian blogger listed?

www.chapatimystery.com has been doing a great job covering this. Sepia Mutiny (www.sepiamutiny.com) is on it as well.


Chapati Mystery is Manan's personal site.

"The PK Supreme Court was poised to rule against Musharraf's election."

Actually, today's Financial Times says it was poised to rule in favor, but perhaps Musharraf didn't want to take a chance.

Garuda,

Great point, America is just like Pakistan.

This is the hottest situation in foreign policy - not just this week, but for the remainder of the decade.

And our position on it is a disaster. It's more passively disastrous than the active disaster creation of the Iraq scenario, but it's a disaster nonetheless.

So, I encourage you to dig into this.


The idea that Nawaz Sharif was overthrown because
he wanted to promote reconciliation with India
is funny. Surely the relevant history isn't
that hard to look up?

From what I remember, Nawaz Sharif was going
the Chavez route, with the storming of the
Supreme Court, the 15th amendment, Benazir out
of the way etc. Until the f**kup in Kargil,
that is.

I'm sure there are a lot of subtleties I missed
but I'm pretty sure a burning desire for peace
with India isn't one of them.


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