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One Year Later

06 Dec 2007 07:25 pm

Rand Beers and Max Bergmann take a look at what's been accomplished since the Iraq Study Group released its recommendations: Not much.

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Let's compare November 2006 to November 2007 and see if we can any differences.

November 2006
Iraqi Security Forces Casualties: 123
Iraqi Civilian Casualties: 1741
U.S. Casualties: 106

November 2007
Iraqi Security Forces Casualties: 89
Iraqi Civilian Casualties: 471
U.S. Casualties: 37

Does Matt notice any changes? "Not much"

Did you read the article, Captain?

This apparent success will stay in place just as long as we keep 130,000 Americans in Iraq. As soon as we leave, the best we can hope for is an Iranian client state. The worst is the Turko-Kurdish War and brutal repression of the Second Sunni Intifada.

Scott Ferguson, you may be right, but history has a way of springing surprises out of the blue on humanity, and some of them are pleasant and beneficial surprises. Let's hope the trend noted by Captain Obvious continues after our forces start coming home.

Scott Ferguson, you may be right, but history has a way of springing surprises out of the blue on humanity, and some of them are pleasant and beneficial surprises. Let's hope the trend noted by Captain Obvious continues after our forces start coming home.

"Scott Ferguson, you may be right, but history has a way of springing surprises out of the blue on humanity, and some of them are pleasant and beneficial surprises. Let's hope the trend noted by Captain Obvious continues after our forces start coming home."


Posted by James

After years of being lied to by the administration, years of sweet promises but but bitter, blood-drenched realites, some people *still* say, 'but wait - who knows, good stuff might happen'.

"History has a way of springing surprises out of the blue on humanity, and some of them are pleasant and beneficial surprises. Let's hope the trend noted by Captain Obvious continues after our forces start coming home.

Agreed. There is nothing wrong with hoping for a good outcome in Iraq, no matter how improbable such an outcome may be at this point. Hope shouldn't be used to justify bad policies (such as remaining in Iraq indefinitely), but there is nothing wrong with hoping that following a good policy will lead to good outcome.

November 2007 Iraqi Civilian Casualties: 471

Bullshit. The independent figure from the news media is nearly three times that - about 1,100. And that is undoubtedly an undercount.

Compared to what? Civilian casualties under Saddam? In Brazil? South Africa?

We have 40,000 people killed every year in traffic accidents, many of them alcohol-related, and no one seems to give a shit.


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