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03 Dec 2007 09:26 am

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The other day, Karl Rove went on television and stated falsely that it was congressional Democrats, rather than the Bush administration, that pushed for the Authorization of the Use of Military Force in Iraq vote to happen before the 2002 midterms. Either the story here is "former Bush advisor says things on television that aren't true" or else there's just no story. Merely restating the misstatements of prominent officials without flagging them as misstatements doesn't inform readers.

Instead, as Robert Waldman notes (via DeLong) Peter Baker of The Washington Post did a story comprised of seven paragraphs about the "controversy" over why was responsible for the war vote, followed eventually by some indication that there's a truth of the matter here:

News accounts and transcripts at the time show Bush arguing against delay. Asked on Sept. 13, 2002, about Democrats who did not want to vote until after the U.N. Security Council acted, Bush said, "If I were running for office, I'm not sure how I'd explain to the American people -- say, 'Vote for me, and, oh, by the way, on a matter of national security, I think I'm going to wait for somebody else to act.' "

And of course one must keep in mind that Baker did a better job here than what we've often seen -- if you read to paragraph eight, Baker lets you know the truth. But of course this is why people go on television and lie. People who read just the headline attached to Baker's article will come away believing there's a controversy. People who scan a few grafs will come away believing there's a controversy. And even people who read all the way through won't read "shrill" words like "liar. So why not lie?

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Hey, who you gonna believe - a great American like Karl Rove, or lying, leftist America-haters like Andy Card and Ari Fleischer.

this Rove sounds like a clever guy. someone should give him a column in a national news-weekly.

Besides the "some say" type coverage in various media, is there anyone (since I haven't watched the little tubby turdball) who actually seems to be taking this argument seriously, to believe it for a second?

About 1 in 4 Americans, El Cid. This latest from Rove is really kind of amazing in a hammer to the base of your skull kind of way.

Journalists, publishers and media ownership are in a tough spot. They all know Bush is reading their e-mails, listening to recordings of their phone calls, has access to their credit, medical, vocational and education records and likely seeks out the same for a wide circle of friends, coworkers, relatives and business associates having any contact or relation to them. There's a line they can all walk up to but dare not cross. No reason for that dalliance with Beth in accounting to muck up your marriage. Likewise that stock tip you took from the CEO of Jetstar Avionics.

Karl Rove is at it again. In a month or so the MSM will say: Republicans blame Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle for pushing President Bush into the Iraq war. Democrats deny any such thing. We report, you decide.

Let's just note for the record that Steve Duncan is insane.

Thanks for the link

Why couldn't we at least get a headline like:

"Former Bush advisor offers questionable view of AUMF vote"

It doesn't need to include 'shrill' words like liar to express the perfectly unbiased view that Rove's view is at the very least extremely dubious. And then the article can talk about why Rove offering such an account is very self-serving and doesn't comport with most of the evidence on the issue and so forth.

Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You're Calling
May 15, 2006 10:33 AM

Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

A senior federal law enforcement official tells ABC News the government is tracking the phone numbers we (Brian Ross and Richard Esposito) call in an effort to root out confidential sources.
"It's time for you to get some new cell phones, quick," the source told us in an in-person conversation.
ABC News does not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls.
Other sources have told us that phone calls and contacts by reporters for ABC News, along with the New York Times and the Washington Post, are being examined as part of a widespread CIA leak investigation.
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"Firstfruits" was "part of a Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) program that was maintained at least until October 2004 and was authorized by then-DCI Porter Goss. Firstfruits was authorized as part of a DCI "Countering Denial and Deception" program responsible to an entity known as the Foreign Denial and Deception Committee (FDDC). Since the intelligence community's reorganization, the DCI has been replaced by the Director of National Intelligence headed by John Negroponte and his deputy, former NSA director Gen. Michael Hayden," Wayne Madsen wrote in the December 29, 2005, Alternative Press Review.

"Firstfruits was a database that contained both the articles and the transcripts of telephone and other communications of particular Washington journalists known to report on sensitive U.S. intelligence activities, particularly those involving NSA. According to NSA sources, the targeted journalists included author James Bamford, the New York Times' James Risen, the Washington Post's Vernon Loeb, the New Yorker's Seymour Hersh, the Washington Times' Bill Gertz, UPI's John C. K. Daly, and this editor [Wayne Madsen], who has written about NSA for The Village Voice, CAQ, Intelligence Online, and the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC)."
Via: Sourcewatch

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A cursory Google search using keywords "Bush-spying-journalists" brings up hundreds of references from multiple reputable sources attesting to the existence of many domestic and international spying programs on journalists. Insanity? Nah, it's the cuckoos doing the dismissing.

If Rove's trying to blame dems for the timing of the war, does that mean Rove recognizes the war's a mistake? Or that the timing was a mistake? That the President is really at the mercy of congress when it comes to starting wars? WTF?

If Rove's trying to blame dems for the timing of the war, does that mean Rove recognizes the war's a mistake? Or that the timing was a mistake? That the President is really at the mercy of the minority party of congress when it comes to starting wars? WTF?

If Rove's trying to blame dems for the timing of the war, does that mean Rove recognizes the war's a mistake? Or that the timing was a mistake? That the President is really at the mercy of the minority party of congress when it comes to starting wars? WTF?

*Throws a bunch of business cards in A different Matt's face and runs away.*

WTF?

This is standard operating procedure for Karl Rove. His political strategy can be summed up like this: determine the issue that the Republicans are weakest at and paint the opposition with that weakness. It doesn't matter if you paint them with an easily verifiable lie, just create the controversy.

We can go back further to William Casey once publicly and explicitly stating that all the major MSM are either owned or controlled by the CIA.

He wasn't joking when he said it.

Then there's the article I read that said even the left wing magazines have ex-CIA editors and writers on their staffs - because ex-CIA guys are good at writing reports...

And another typo: "controversy over why was responsible for the war vote."

Though, as MY's mistakes often do, they mutilate the language while being as truthful or coherent as the original. Controversy over why was responsible for the war vote I can understand.


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