Well, nobody thought the Giants would win tonight, but nobody thought they would win last week either. Or the week before that. I remember that after the Giants won their first game of this season my dad was worrying that if they won too many Tom Coughlin might not get fired. And now the hopes of a whole nation of haters rest on their shoulders.
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Giants Win
20 Jan 2008 10:13 pm
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Well, at least Tynes won't have to commit suicide now.
I feel bad for Favre. He doesn't deserve the blame for this loss, but that last throw must have been devastating for him. I don't see how he can retire after that.
as a giants fan, i gave them a very modest chance to beat dallas and a minute chance to beat green bay, but i still give them an insignficant chance to beat the pats. (happily for eli, the super bowl will be played in warm weather, hence "insignificant" rather than "nonexistent.")
and while eli will, justifiably, gets lots of ink, from a giants perspective, it's been the astonishingly good play of corey webster that came completely out of nowhere, and that's been crucial, since the primary giant weakness is the secondary....
Undeserving Super Bowl participant? Or MOST undeserving Super Bowl Participant?
Is the NFC this year the football equivalent of the Republican primary - the winner is the last loser standing?
On the other hand - based on what happened in Week 16, the Super Bowl may actually be okay this year.
Statgeek note: the Giants are now 4-0 in NFC championship games.
YEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
Reminds me of the way the Colorado Rockies kept winning right up until they got to the World Series.
I wouldn't sell the Giants short. Their defense has spent the last month hitting the snot out of people, and Eli has done his best to control the evil twin that sometimes comes out and makes him throw five picks or fumble the ball. They'll give the Pats a game, and ol' Saint Tom didn't really look that sharp today.
Matt, this is the third season in a row the Giants have tanked in the second half. It's pretty damn clear they're doing so because they hate Coughlin. So, I hope they give him the book for any reason whatsoever.
Presumably this does away with all the Eli haters out there. At least for two weeks.
He played a great game - outplayed Favre.
It'll be so sad when the Pats whip their butts in two weeks.
Coughlin is still a huge douchebag. They kept on replaying his treatment of Tynes on one of the misses, which is classic Coughlin
Totally agree.
It's not just douchebaggery, it's bad coaching. How the hell does it help Tynes to be screamed at after that miss? Was there the slightest risk that he didn't *already* feel bad and needed to be reminded to?
I can understand (although not endorse) balling a guy out if he makes a non-obvious error (eg. ran an out pattern instead of an up), so that he needs it brought to his attention. But Coughlin is the king of the obvious.
19-0 will be very sweet.
Favre looked terrible (I only saw the 2nd half).
The Giants were dominating in the 2nd half, and really should have won more easily. I think the Patriots would have been better off with the Packers.
Reminds me of the way the Colorado Rockies kept winning right up until they got to the World Series.
It worries me that there are 2 weeks before the Super Bowl. The Rockies were extremely hot but then had 9 days off before the WS and lost their mojo. Same could happen here.
But I don't know how anyone thinks the Pats are going to blow out the Giants. Did you all not see the game in Week 17???
The announcers were so sure of a Packer's victory, they forgot to devote any time to the question of whether it was Favre's last game.
I guess I owe Eli thanks for that.
And I guess it will be fun watching Brady take down the Other Manning.
I was kinda hoping the Pats would get the Packers, but the opportunity to beat another Manning AND another New York team is a gift from the sports gods.
I was hoping for a Pats-Pack Super Bowl and the Packers fucked up. Wow did they suck. Really bad.
Oh well now I can say it. Go Pats!
So now we have New York versus Boston.
The media hype will be annoying, but more tolerable than if we had to watch Manning vs. Manning.
I'm a Pats fan, and I'm nervous. These Giants are gamers. And I see nothing in the last eight weeks to make me supremely confident about the Pats. Reasonably confident, but not supremely.
The Pats didn't exactly destroy the Giants at the end of the season. With nothing on the line, the Giants had a 12 point lead going into the second half. I'd be worried if I were a Pats fan, too.
In the event, I'll savor this just as I've been savoring every win since the beginning if the playoffs. They're just playing with house money, now.
The Pats didn't exactly destroy the Giants at the end of the season. With nothing on the line, the Giants had a 12 point lead going into the second half. I'd be worried if I were a Pats fan, too.
In the event, I'll savor this just as I've been savoring every win since the beginning if the playoffs. They're just playing with house money, now.
The Pats didn't exactly destroy the Giants at the end of the season. With nothing on the line, the Giants had a 12 point lead going into the second half. I'd be worried if I were a Pats fan, too.
In the event, I'll savor this just as I've been savoring every win since the beginning if the playoffs. They're just playing with house money, now.
The Pats didn't exactly destroy the Giants at the end of the season. With nothing on the line, the Giants had a 12 point lead going into the second half. I'd be worried if I were a Pats fan, too.
In the event, I'll savor this just as I've been savoring every win since the beginning if the playoffs. They're just playing with house money, now.
sorry for the triple posting. page wasn't refreshing on my end.
Someone has been scripting these Giants games. All incredibly dramatic and memorable. Good for the sport. Go Giants!
Y'know, if the Pats are allowed to use some of their slaughter-rule points from the first half of the season, it'll be a blowout. If not, gimme the Jints and the points.
Tynes ought to tell him to go fuck himself.
At my place, we all kind of thought he missed that second one on purpose. "Hey Coach, do you like apples?" Ah, good times. Then we remembered we're in Wisconsin and that overtime happened and we all cursed Al Harris.
sorry for the triple posting. page wasn't refreshing on my end.
Actually that looks like the uber-rare quadruple post. I counted, finally my mathematics degree is useful.
I'm kicking myself for not predicting you were jinxing one of the teams in your CW predictions thread below. But I thought it.
I'm a Chargers fan, and my hate for the Patriots, is only outweighed by two things: the rest of the AFC West, and Eli Manning (yeah yeah, I should get over it, eff you).
Patriot for a day.
> calipygian
> Is the NFC this year the football equivalent of > the Republican primary - the winner is the last > loser standing?
You mean last underdog standing up to the Clinton Mafia?
If I were a Giants fan, I wouldn't let the week 17 result get me too excited--just the opposite, I think: this sets things up for the hooded genius to flip all the right switches...
xjerryx,
How can you hate the Oakland Raiders - America's Team?
The better QB won. The torch has been passed.
Belichick with two weeks to prepare.
Tom Brady playing in perfect conditions.
Perfect recipe for a Super Bowl rout.
And I know Bill Simmons is an a-hole and most other Boston sports fans are obnoxious cretins, but I don't care. The thought of the sad old men of the '72 Dolphins being moved to the fringes of history and the Favre-fellating media not being able to fellate Favre for two straight weeks makes me delirious.
GO PATS!
Yeah, meeting Bill Belichick and his boys for a second time in a season has rarely ended well for the opposition.
Will Coughlin have to have reconstructive surgery on his face?
this is the third season in a row the Giants have tanked in the second half.
4-4 in the second half, three of the four losses to playoff teams (heck, they only lost one game all year to a non-playoff team).
The thought of the sad old men of the '72 Dolphins being moved to the fringes of history...
As one of them put it: do you know the name of the second person to climb Mount Everest...?
Re Coughlin screaming at Tynes, according to the guys on the Giants post-game (radio) show he was yelling at him to "keep his chin up".
Does anyone out there think it is a coincidence that this group has become a team without Barber and Shockey?
I hope (against hope)... Go Giants!
Joe S,
It is interesting that you mention this. I just read in SI last week (Dr. Z) that a good number of Eli Manning's interceptions (some run back for touchdowns) were on passes to Jeremy Shockey.
Undeserving Super Bowl participant? Or MOST undeserving Super Bowl Participant?
I think the Giants team that got pounded by the Ravens a number of years was less deserving than the current squad.
As one of them put it: do you know the name of the second person to climb Mount Everest...?
No, but only because Sports Center doesn't remind me 24/7, which you can be sure won't be the case with Brady and the Pats.
Amen to that, TW. I can't imagine what ESPN will do to this, considering how crazy they went over that 2005 USC team.
I was cringing whenever they showed coughlins face. frostbite?
Is there any logical basis for the Patriots-hatred ?
It seems to me that for the first half of the
season the haters were complaining that the Pats
were being unsportsmanlike in "running up the score";
and then after a sequence of tight games the haters
are saying "not that great". Well, you can't have
it all ways.
I'm not in general a football fan - I prefer games
with more scope for individual flair - but as far
as I can see the 2007 Pats are pretty close to the
Platonic ideal of football: they always have a
well-thought-out game plan, they execute the plays
as called, the QB throws it where he's supposed to
and not where it isn't, and they manage the game
perfectly to end up with more points at the final
whistle, every single damn game.
Heck, the last couple of games they've even done
the damage with the running game, and the defense
has stepped up with red-zone stops and turnovers.
I can see why someone might not like the Pats -
but from an analytical perspective, I don't see
how you can like football *and* not like the
2007 Pats. For better or worse, it's pure
football taken to an unprecedented level.
And you'd better enjoy it while it lasts, because
probably Moss and Stallworth will be elsewhere
next season and Brady will be back dinking and
dunking to a merely mortal record like 12-4.
As one of them put it: do you know the name of the second person to climb Mount Everest...?
That's easy - Tenzing Norgay. Summitted a minute or two after Sir Edmund (R.I.P.).
Does anyone out there think it is a coincidence that this group has become a team without Barber
Bill Simmons's Ewing Theory at work.
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Heads in the Sand
Coughlin is still a huge douchebag. They kept on replaying his treatment of Tynes on one of the misses, which is classic Coughlin - he kinda sorta tolerates you if you do well, and he berates you w/in an inch of your life if you come up short. Tynes ought to tell him to go fuck himself.
Posted by scott | January 20, 2008 10:19 PM