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Talking the Talk

24 Jan 2008 04:49 pm

Here's a column I did about how depressing the little Clinton-Obama tête-a-tête on who's ready to wage the politics of national security was:

Meanwhile, for the purposes of the campaign I'd certainly like to believe that faced with a choice between a Republican decorated war hero and veteran senator, and a Democratic ex-first lady and junior senator, both of whom supported the invasion of Iraq, both of whom became early critics of Donald Rumsfeld's conduct of the occupation, and both of whom support long-term American military engagement in Iraqi affairs, that the American people will come down on Clinton's side. But I pay attention to this stuff. I know that Clinton's an open-minded person who takes advice from a wide circle of people and may well conduct an excellent foreign policy once in office. I also know that McCain is a committed militarist, a pre-September 11 advocate of "rogue state rollback," and a politician who seems to have few firm beliefs beyond an inchoate nationalism. But, realistically, insofar as the campaign turns on national security issues (the economy will, of course, also matter) the average person is going to go for the popular war hero.

Obama's approach is better but not, frankly, anywhere near as much better as one would hope. For months, he's been unwilling to make a forceful case from the left on national security issues in a Democratic primary, so it's far from clear that he would, in practice, make the sort of strong arguments his record leaves him capable of making. If McCain (or, for that matter, Mitt Romney) starts talking about how in a Democratic administration North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Syria, Hamas, al-Qaeda, and some Iraqi dude who doesn't like having a foreign army occupy his country are all going to team up and kill your children, it won't do to respond by whining about the politics of fear. He'll have to learn to say something in response, perhaps about how the real best way to keep Americans safe is with a focused, targeted effort that gives us the maximum chance of actually killing or capturing our deadliest foes rather than one that lets them escape while needlessly stirring up unrelated trouble that multiplies the number of adversaries we face.

Here's hoping....

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Matt, Obama spent most of the summer and early fall doing exactly what you are suggesting, and it hurt him in the campaign because the media (aided and abetted by the open-minded Clinton) characterized his non-elite-consensus views as "gaffes" and reflective of his lack of experience and naivete. These were the politically defining moments of the early primary campaign.

You've probably seen it before, but it's worth remembering the contents of this Times piece from the fall: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/magazine/04obama-t.html?pagewanted=1

Maybe Obama is just a bad messenger, but maybe the sad reality is that the views he, you, and I share are just very difficult to sell politically - in part because of the elitist-establishment foreign policy consensus that the Clintons and their associates have helped to create.

Matt youre starting to sound like the Clintons really did offer you a job in their administration!

BTW its not it to win if neither the Rep. or Dem. have any integrity. That is why guys like Nader choose to run in the first place. I DO care very much that Clinton resorts to lies, distortions, and voter manipulation to win. You should as well.

I genuinely believe if this turns on national secrutiy Hillary is toast. McCain has been far more aggressive, earlier, in correcting and pushing the Bush adminstration to provide for a good ground game in Iraq while Hillary simply provided bi-partisan cover.

She doesn't have the purity to win on Iraq and I wouldn't put it past GWB to gin up a coded threat alert.

Obama can say he was right from the start. He can point to fighting for change in the patriot act and that he was willing to go after bin laden and called naive for not asking permission first. He's spoken eloquently on national security and some of his best momments have been these exchanges of ideas.

And he has more purity on this issue.

I think that while the economy is so important, by November this is definitly going to turn back to a national security issue and i think barrack has a better chance on this.

And when Bill Clinton pulls the same stuff he's doing to Obama they'll call Somalia, Rwanda, Bosnia, and et al. out on him. As popular as Clinton is, he doesn't have the pedigree on national security issues that a Gore does, Gore having taken a position on the defining issue of our times (terrorism).

"... both of whom supported the invasion of Iraq..."

WTF????

is he actually talking about Obama?

"... both of whom supported the invasion of Iraq..."

WTF????

is he actually talking about Obama?

"... both of whom supported the invasion of Iraq..."

WTF????

is he actually talking about Obama?

Matt,

You seem to have forgotten that Obama did make the precise point that we took 'our eye off the ball' in going after a fake foe in Iraq rather than the real 'foe' in Afghanistan two or three debates ago. How could you forget this when there was such a brouhaha about the remark because some were eager to interpret it as placing the blame on Hillary Clinton for Benazir Bhutto's assassination?

Man, oh man, have our memories gotten short.

As for Hillary Clinton's open-mindedness, you're out on a limb there. Nothing in her senate career or campaign conduct would suggest she's open to different views.

given the choice of a decorated veteran senator and a clinton?

The country decided and will decide on a clinton.

Isnt this just a replay of 1996???

Why wouldn't a YouTube of a candidate singing "Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" destroy a candidate's cred on national security? It would sure bother me!

This election is not going to be about national security. The Democratic Primary sure as hell won't.

Obama has a very interesting foreign policy vision. But he realized early on, as did all the candidates, that Democratic primary voters simply aren't that interested in debating the merits of competing foreign policy viewpoints. Particularly as the economy gets worse, the bread and butter issues are what they want to hear about.

I actually think Obama is far more willing to make a case from the left on foreign policy than he is on domestic policy. The reason he's not talking about it isn't that he's afraid, it's that this isn't the time.

Matt, you make it sound like Clinton and McCain have practically identical views on Iraq, which pretty clearly isn't the case. In just the last debate, Clinton committed herself to start withdrawing troops within a year (the details are sketchy, but details on that kind of plan are going to be sketchy). For weeks now she's been talking about withdrawing from Iraq "the right way", which is a jab at Obama, but is also a statement of support for getting us out. McCain, by contrast, supports completely open-ended committment and recently said we'd be there 100 years if necessary. You said a while ago that you'd try to stop creating the impression that Clinton is just as bad on Iraq as the leading Republicans; implying that Clinton and McCain have nearly identical positions on Iraq does just that.

Meanwhile, Obama is doing stuff like this, pandering to AIPAC:

Obama: Note Hamas in Gaza resolution
Published: 01/23/2008

Barack Obama wants a U.N. Security Council resolution on the Gaza Strip to mention rocket attacks on Israel.

The Democratic presidential candidate in a letter sent Tuesday to Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, urged the United States not to allow the resolution to pass unless it notes the rocket salvos.

The Security Council is in emergency session this week considering Israel's blockade of Gaza.

"All of us are concerned about the impact of closed border crossings on Palestinian families," wrote Obama, a U.S. senator from Illinois, in his letter to Khalilzad. "However, we have to understand why Israel is forced to do this. Gaza is governed by Hamas, which is a terrorist organization sworn to Israel's destruction, and Israeli civilians are being bombarded on an almost daily basis."


Tell me again how he's not going to attack Iran on orders from Israel.

MY's column sounds very Frank Rich or Broder-esque to me. Except instead of Republicans put Hillary, and instead of Democrats, put Obama. It goes something like this:

[Republicans/Hillary] are bad because they are simply wrong.

[Democrats/Obama] are bad because they are ineffective in making the case that [Republicans/Hillary] are wrong.

Therefore, [Republicans/Hillary] and [Democrats/Obama] are both equally bad.

i thought obama did lay out a vision of america's foreign policy, not dissimilar from what you've described.

i thought obama did lay out a vision of america's foreign policy, not dissimilar from what you've described.

All of this talk about Obama being better matched against McCain in the general election overlooks two facts: McCain is 73 which means his vice presidential candidate - presumably a right winger to appease the base - will be a BIG issue, because that guy could end up being pres. Second, in a bad economy, people vote with their stomachs - meaning the economy will matter more than foreign policy (even assuming John "Iraq for 100 years" McCain has an advantage on national security). Between Mr " I dunno much about the economy" and nostalgia for the booming 90's, Clinton has a good hand in that argument. Obama hasn't shown me the willingness to get nasty to take advantage of the first point (and Clinton has), and on the second point - with no connection to the Clinton years - Obama is just another tax and spend liberal who loses the argument to a guy saying he's going to cut taxes. Ignore fleeting polls and focus on the issues please.

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Let's analyze Obama's "foreign policy vision":

"It is time to turn the page. When I am President, we will wage the war that has to be won, with a comprehensive strategy with five elements: getting out of Iraq and on to the right battlefield in Afghanistan and Pakistan; developing the capabilities and partnerships we need to take out the terrorists and the world's most deadly weapons; engaging the world to dry up support for terror and extremism; restoring our values; and securing a more resilient homeland."

Okay... Like HOW, exactly?

"The first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

Wrong already, depending on what he means by "taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan." Because there aren't any "terrorists" in Afghanistan - there's only the Pashtun who have run the place for generations.

"I introduced a plan in January that would have already started bringing our troops out of Iraq, with a goal of removing all combat brigades by March 31, 2008. If the President continues to veto this plan, then ending this war will be my first priority when I take office."

Okay - I can work with that. It's kind of, you know, a no-brainer.

"There is no military solution in Iraq. Only Iraq's leaders can settle the grievances at the heart of Iraq's civil war. We must apply pressure on them to act, and our best leverage is reducing our troop presence. And we must also do the hard and sustained diplomatic work in the region on behalf of peace and stability."

Okay - no problem there. Only I don't know how you're gonna apply "pressure" on the Iraqi government when our asses are out of there. but, okay.

"In ending the war, we must act with more wisdom than we started it. That is why my plan would maintain sufficient forces in the region to target al Qaeda within Iraq."

Great - when you see some Al Qaeda, you bomb them. Hopefully with the permission of the Iraqi "sovereign" government, right? Right?

But in fact, basically, nobody cares about AQI, since five minutes after the Iraqis sort out their conflicts, AQI is likely to be gone or irrelevant.

Besides which, you deal with Al Qaeda in other ways, preferably. More below.

"But we must recognize that al Qaeda is not the primary source of violence in Iraq, and has little support -- not from Shia and Kurds who al Qaeda has targeted, or Sunni tribes hostile to foreigners. On the contrary, al Qaeda's appeal within Iraq is enhanced by our troop presence."

Correct.

"As a result, parts of Afghanistan are falling into the hands of the Taliban, and a mix of terrorism, drugs, and corruption threatens to overwhelm the country."

Actually, a mix of terrorism, drugs and corruption has been the HISTORY of Afghanistan for generations. You think YOU are gonna change that?

Lots of luck, homes.

"As President, I would deploy at least two additional brigades to Afghanistan to re-enforce our counter-terrorism operations and support NATO's efforts against the Taliban. As we step up our commitment, our European friends must do the same, and without the burdensome restrictions that have hampered NATO's efforts. We must also put more of an Afghan face on security by improving the training and equipping of the Afghan Army and Police, and including Afghan soldiers in U.S. and NATO operations."

Wrong. Total failure lies that way.

"We must not, however, repeat the mistakes of Iraq."

You just did, moron.

"The solution in Afghanistan is not just military -- it is political and economic. As President, I would increase our non-military aid by $1 billion. These resources should fund projects at the local level to impact ordinary Afghans, including the development of alternative livelihoods for poppy farmers."

Oh, right, one billion dollars is gonna knock out the heroin trade.

Moron. What else can you say of this concept?

"And we must seek better performance from the Afghan government, and support that performance through tough anti-corruption safeguards on aid, and increased international support to develop the rule of law across the country."

This is all bullshit from someone who has no clue how Afghanistan works and has worked for generations. Afghanistan is run by warlords and corrupt governments. This idiot thinks he's going to install Switzerland over there?

"Above all, I will send a clear message: we will not repeat the mistake of the past, when we turned our back on Afghanistan following Soviet withdrawal. As 9/11 showed us, the security of Afghanistan and America is shared."

In other words, instead of miring us in Iraq, Obama is going to mire us in Afghanistan.

"And today, that security is most threatened by the al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuary in the tribal regions of northwest Pakistan."

And he's going to mire us in Pakistan.

"This is the wild frontier of our globalized world. There are wind-swept deserts and cave-dotted mountains. There are tribes that see borders as nothing more than lines on a map, and governments as forces that come and go. There are blood ties deeper than alliances of convenience, and pockets of extremism that follow religion to violence. It's a tough place."

Yeah, so?

"But that is no excuse. There must be no safe-haven for terrorists who threaten America. We cannot fail to act because action is hard."

Here we go, folks. Invade Pakistan. Attack a group of people who have been fighting their OWN government and every invader for the last several thousand years - AND HAVE NEVER LOST!

And you want this moron to be President?

"As President, I would make the hundreds of millions of dollars in U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional, and I would make our conditions clear: Pakistan must make substantial progress in closing down the training camps, evicting foreign fighters, and preventing the Taliban from using Pakistan as a staging area for attacks in Afghanistan."

Does he have ANY IDEA what he's talking about here? Does he have ANY CLUE that Pakistan has supported the Taliban from the beginning?

"I understand that President Musharraf has his own challenges. But let me make this clear. There are terrorists holed up in those mountains who murdered 3,000 Americans. They are plotting to strike again. It was a terrible mistake to fail to act when we had a chance to take out an al Qaeda leadership meeting in 2005. If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

We will stoke even more anti-Americanism in Pakistan is what he's saying. We will MAKE SURE that the Pakistani government collapse, so we have to invade to secure the nukes.

"And Pakistan needs more than F-16s to combat extremism. As the Pakistani government increases investment in secular education to counter radical madrasas, my Administration will increase America's commitment. We must help Pakistan invest in the provinces along the Afghan border, so that the extremists' program of hate is met with one of hope. And we must not turn a blind eye to elections that are neither free nor fair -- our goal is not simply an ally in Pakistan, it is a democratic ally."

Now he's talking without a single clue how Pakistani society is organized, how the Pakistani government is organized and controlled, how corruption has ruled that country for generations.

"Beyond Pakistan, there is a core of terrorists -- probably in the tens of thousands -- who have made their choice to attack America. So the second step in my strategy will be to build our capacity and our partnerships to track down, capture or kill terrorists around the world, and to deny them the world's most dangerous weapons."

Like, how?

"I will not hesitate to use military force to take out terrorists who pose a direct threat to America. This requires a broader set of capabilities, as outlined in the Army and Marine Corps's new counter-insurgency manual. I will ensure that our military becomes more stealth, agile, and lethal in its ability to capture or kill terrorists. We need to recruit, train, and equip our armed forces to better target terrorists, and to help foreign militaries to do the same. This must include a program to bolster our ability to speak different languages, understand different cultures, and coordinate complex missions with our civilian agencies."

There is no military solution to terrorism. This idiot has no conception of that fact. Our Special Forces, SEAL Teams, and other units are more than capable NOW of taking out any easily identified and located cell of terrorists sitting in some building or camp somewhere. We don't need any more capability in that area.

And foreign military units ALREADY get training in those matters as well.

This is all irrelevant to the real requirement - changing US foreign policy to reduce our target exposure.

"To succeed, we must improve our civilian capacity. The finest military in the world is adapting to the challenges of the 21st century. But it cannot counter insurgent and terrorist threats without civilian counterparts who can carry out economic and political reconstruction missions -- sometimes in dangerous places. As President, I will strengthen these civilian capacities, recruiting our best and brightest to take on this challenge. I will increase both the numbers and capabilities of our diplomats, development experts, and other civilians who can work alongside our military. We can't just say there is no military solution to these problems. We need to integrate all aspects of American might."

Yeah, whatever. Irrelevant. If you don't get into those dangerous places - like Iraq - in the first place, you don't need all this crap.

"One component of this integrated approach will be new Mobile Development Teams that bring together personnel from the State Department, the Pentagon, and USAID. These teams will work with civil society and local governments to make an immediate impact in peoples' lives, and to turn the tide against extremism. Where people are most vulnerable, where the light of hope has grown dark, and where we are in a position to make a real difference in advancing security and opportunity -- that is where these teams will go."

In other words, we're gonna wander around countries trying to be good guys. Whatever. Excuse me, but wasn't that what the Peace Corps was all about? How'd that work out in the absence of foreign policy change?

"I will also strengthen our intelligence."

Start by strengthening yours, moron.

"This is about more than an organizational chart. We need leadership that forces our agencies to share information, and leadership that never -- ever -- twists the facts to support bad policies."

Right - you're change the entire intelligence community. Good luck, Charlie!

"But we must also build our capacity to better collect and analyze information, and to carry out operations to disrupt terrorist plots and break up terrorist networks."

Fine. Like, how, please? What are you planning that isn't already SOP for counter-intelligence and law enforcement?

"This cannot just be an American mission. Al Qaeda and its allies operate in nearly 100 countries. The United States cannot steal every secret, penetrate every cell, act on every tip, or track down every terrorist -- nor should we have to do this alone. This is not just about our security. It is about the common security of all the world.

As President, I will create a Shared Security Partnership Program to forge an international intelligence and law enforcement infrastructure to take down terrorist networks from the remote islands of Indonesia, to the sprawling cities of Africa. This program will provide $5 billion over three years for counter-terrorism cooperation with countries around the world, including information sharing, funding for training, operations, border security, anti-corruption programs, technology, and targeting terrorist financing. And this effort will focus on helping our partners succeed without repressive tactics, because brutality breeds terror, it does not defeat it."

Sounded good, up until the part of "helping our partners succeed without repressive tactics". Just how do you intend to do that with regard to Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, etc. ad infinitum?

"That is why I worked in the Senate with Dick Lugar to pass a law that would help the United States and our allies detect and stop the smuggling of weapons of mass destruction. That is why I am introducing a bill with Chuck Hagel that seeks to prevent nuclear terrorism, reduce global nuclear arsenals, and stop the spread of nuclear weapons. And that is why, as President, I will lead a global effort to secure all nuclear weapons and material at vulnerable sites within four years. While we work to secure existing stockpiles, we should also negotiate a verifiable global ban on the production of new nuclear weapons material."

Okay - how about the nukes in the US arsenal?

"And I won't hesitate to use the power of American diplomacy to stop countries from obtaining these weapons or sponsoring terror."

Ahah, here we go!

"but I won't outsource our diplomacy in Tehran to the Europeans, or our diplomacy in Pyongyang to the Chinese. I will do the careful preparation needed, and let these countries know where America stands. They will no longer have the excuse of American intransigence. They will have our terms: no support for terror and no nuclear weapons."

Iran doesn't support terrorism and has no nuclear weapons. Hizballah and Hamas are not "terrorist" organizations, they are Fourth Gen War national resistance movements. Iran has no nuclear weapons program.

"Al Qaeda's new recruits come from Africa and Asia, the Middle East and Europe. Many come from disaffected communities and disconnected corners of our interconnected world. And it makes you stop and wonder: when those faces look up at an American helicopter, do they feel hope, or do they feel hate?"

Uhm, why is the American helicopter THERE?


"And we know what the extremists say about us. America is just an occupying Army in Muslim lands, the shadow of a shrouded figure standing on a box at Abu Ghraib, the power behind the throne of a repressive leader. They say we are at war with Islam. That is the whispered line of the extremist who has nothing to offer in this battle of ideas but blame -- blame America, blame progress, blame Jews."

Is he wrong? About "progress", maybe. About the US and Israel - no, he's not wrong. And changing US foreign policy is the only way to eliminate that correct perception.

"We know we are not who they say we are."

Who's this "we", dude? The US citizenry might not be, but the US government and the US military-industrial-security complex and the US oil companies most certainly ARE who they say we are. Or don't you know ANY history at all?

"America is at war with terrorists who killed on our soil."

WHY did they kill on our soil? Answer THAT question first.

"As President, I will make it a focus of my foreign policy to roll back the tide of hopelessness that gives rise to hate."

Like, how, please?

"I will focus our support on helping nations build independent judicial systems, honest police forces, and financial systems that are transparent and accountable. Freedom must also mean freedom from want, not freedom lost to an empty stomach. So I will make poverty reduction a key part of helping other nations reduce anarchy."

Again, how, please?

"I will double our annual investments to meet these challenges to $50 billion by 2012. And I will support a $2 billion Global Education Fund to counter the radical madrasas -- often funded by money from within Saudi Arabia -- that have filled young minds with messages of hate."

$50 billion to do WHAT, exactly? WHAT will the $2 billion educational fund actually TEACH?

"We will open "America Houses" in cities across the Islamic world, with Internet, libraries, English lessons, stories of America's Muslims and the strength they add to our country, and vocational programs."

Yeah, right, that's going to work really well. How many Muslims will actually visit one? What will they contain that any Muslim with Net access can't find out right now?

"Through a new " America's Voice Corps" we will recruit, train, and send out into the field talented young Americans who can speak with -- and listen to -- the people who today hear about us only from our enemies."

Right - a bunch of slick-talking American salesmen - that's going to help.

"As President, I will lead this effort. In the first 100 days of my Administration, I will travel to a major Islamic forum and deliver an address to redefine our struggle."

Okay - but they've heard speeches from US Presidents before. They want to see action, not talk.

"I will make clear that we are not at war with Islam,"

Really? Gonna fire all those neocons in the State Department, DoD, New York Times, etc.? Gonna repudiate AIPAC, are you?

"When I am President, America will reject torture without exception."

Okay - got no problem with that. That mean you're gonna investigate practices in the city, county, state, and Federal prison systems in the US, too?

Thought not.

"As President, I will close Guantanamo, reject the Military Commissions Act, and adhere to the Geneva Conventions."

Okay - no problem with that.

"That means no more illegal wire-tapping of American citizens. No more national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. No more tracking citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. No more ignoring the law when it is inconvenient."

Okay - no problem with that.

"We have to put resources where our infrastructure is most vulnerable. That means tough and permanent standards for securing our chemical plants. Improving our capability to screen cargo and investing in safeguards that will prevent the disruption of our ports. And making sure our energy sector -- our refineries and pipelines and power grids -- is protected so that terrorists cannot cripple our economy."

Well, good luck with all that. It won't be effective against terrorists, who hit targets of opportunity, and have unlimited time to find ways to penetrate any security. But have at it.

Just remember what Rutger Hauer said in "Nighthawks": "Remember, there IS NO security."

"I will address the problem in our prisons, where the most disaffected and disconnected Americans are being explicitly targeted for conversion by al Qaeda and its ideological allies."

If that means you'll deal with the "War On Drugs" as well as prison conditions, I got no problem with that.

Bottom line: Nothing here is going to materially change things. Most of what he's advocating will either make things worse, do nothing at all, or at most be a bandaid.

There is ONE and ONLY ONE way to defeat terrorism: change your policies so you are are no longer the target.

There is absolutely NO reason why the US should be targeted by Islamic terrorists IF the US engaged the world in a rational manner, as George Washington emphasized: no foreign entanglements, and deal fairly commercially with all comers.

That means:

1) No support for Israel.

2) No support for the ME monarchies or dictatorships like Pakistan.

3) Reduction of US dependence on foreign oil.

All of these are actions the US can take unilaterally, under our control, with no negative impact on the US taxpayer, no expenditure of US military lives, and no violation of US civil rights - or any other nations civilian lives.

Obama just doesn't get it.

For the record, neither does Clinton, and certainly none of the Republicans.

Obama didn't support the invasion of Iraq - been brainwashed by the Clinton smear campaign?

The Observer's endorsement is a good corrective to all this.

Mr. Obama, it is true, is hardly an experienced Washington hand, which surely explains the freshness of his vision and the power of his life experience. His opponents have hit this issue hard. But as far as experience goes, to those Americans who celebrated finding ourselves with our first M.B.A. president in 2000—we can only advise them to look at the $9 trillion national debt in 2008.

And when George W. Bush was driving a bleary, shocked nation into war with bait-and-switch deceptions in 2003, where was our experienced leadership? Meanwhile, in the west, an Illinois state senator—who has since served three years in the Senate, the same Congressional period that a fellow Midwesterner, Abraham Lincoln, had served when he sought the presidency—rose to exhibit courage and public judgment on that deceptive adventure, stating, “I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.”

Now we have paid the price many times over, and there are no clear paths in Baghdad. But there may be one in Washington. Mr. Obama is the emblem of a new America. He has risen too quickly for his opponents’ taste; that fact is nothing less than a recommendation.

His relationship to truth and plain speaking and public transparency is the first step toward reviving democracy in the United States of America.

Barack Obama of Illinois is the future. New York’s Democrats should embrace him.

Um, did I read this correctly? What on Earth are you talking about? "...both of whom supported the invasion..."??? Ok, I don't even know what to say about that. I think you mean Edwards when you say that, but some kind of correction or clarification is required.

The majority of people will "side" with Clinton because they recognize the name 'Clinton', and because Americans worship popularity and fear backing a 'loser' more than they value most other things. I support Obama, but would be stunned if he won at this point. But I've got to say, it doesn't help for people to be talking about how 'to the right' his foreign policy is, it gives a misleading impression. Who are his advisors, compared to Clinton? Richard Holbrooke on Clinton's side says he supports her because she is "far more likely to take military action than her husband". To him, that's a good thing. I'm sure you're familiar with Samantha Power on Obama's side, right? He hasn't been to the right on this issue, he's just much, much more forthcoming about his beliefs and intentions.

...it won't do to respond by whining about the politics of fear.

You must be living in a dreamworld. Having a Democratic nominee who doesn't whine about the politics of fear is about as likely as a Republican nominee who doesn't call for tax cuts.


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