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The George Allen Era

09 Jan 2008 11:43 am

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Scott Lemieux reminds us of the orthodox Republicans we might have had:

The current geographical and ideological makeup of the GOP coalition hasn't become inherently non-viable, and outside the margins the components aren't ripe to be permanently picked off by the Democrats. And while it's true that the Republican primary seems to have opened up major divisions between cultural reactionaries and fiscal reactionaries, I think this is largely illusory. Essentially, it's just the product of peculiar circumstances: the plain-vanilla Southern conservative who seemed like the frontrunner turned lost a Senate election with a racial slur thrown in, and the plain-vanilla Southern conservative who contested the primary seems to be using Weekend at Bernie's as a campaign manual. Hence, the primary is being seriously fought between a recent convert to Reaganism and other candidates with little crossover appeal between the party's factions.

I agree entirely. In a larger sense, though, I would say to Jack Balkin and anyone else with vision of big changes in American politics to just remember that it all depends on what happens. I ended a review of some recent political books thusly:

A glance at Jacobson's poll charts reminds us what a fleeting thing political success is. Polarization has been a semi-constant theme of the Bush years, but the president who once enjoyed record-high approval levels is, today, flirting with Nixon territory. The political X-factor, as Harold MacMillan famously remarked, is "events, my dear boy, events." Had Bush responded effectively to the challenges of 9-11, one could imagine the GOP regaining Reaganesque levels of dominance. Instead, his policies have failed and created a moment of opportunity for Democrats -- one whose outcome, boring as it is to observe, will depend in part on the quality of their own efforts and in part on events outside their control. Popular (or unpopular) response to contingencies, if sustained, can create not just the appearance of political dominance but the reality as well.

And that's basically how I see things. If President Obama and a Democratic congress manage to pass a few pieces of popular legislation that have been clever designed to re-enforce pro-Democrat institutional and social trends, and if President Obama manages to avoid any noteworthy foreign policy screw-ups or personal scandals then Democrats will be well-positioned to make some gains in the midterms. Meanwhile, a prolonged period of Democratic control of congress would serve to keep controversial cultural wedge issues off the legislative table, which, combined with a decent macroeconomic situation, could pave the way for Democratic inroads into a widish swathe of "red" America. It could totally happen.

But there are a lot of "ifs" in there and it's just as plausible that something totally different will happen. John McCain could revitalize the Republican coalition. A terrorist attack could discredit the new Democratic president and wreck the Democratic Party. Who knows. It's all about the events.

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>> A glance at Jacobson's poll charts reminds us
>> what a fleeting thing political success is.
>> Polarization has been a semi-constant theme of
>> the Bush years, but the president who once
>> enjoyed record-high approval levels is, today,
>> flirting with Nixon territory.

Have to disagree here. The amount of damage that Cheney and his acolytes have done in the shadows is immeasurable and probably not fixable by anyone of any party or administration who follows. They have achieved a political success equal to or greater than FDR/Hopkins' and it may well outlast the United States.

Cranky

Why would a terrorist attack discredit a Democratic President?

I agree entirely. It always depends on what happens. If Bush had been smarter, we'd be staring at a Republican majority for some time.

It really does depend on what happens.

I think you meant to use "cleverly" as opposed to "clever" in your sentence about President Obama.

I think Yglesias is underrating the extent to which different candidates, in either party, will have to put together different coalitions. The GOP that elects Giuliani is different than the GOP that elects Huckabee, and, in the case of a win, different groups will be paid off politically to strengthen ties to the GOP. Same with the Dems.

The Republican Party is in every bad shape electorally. That's demonstrated by the only sort of presidential candidate the party can rally around being an empty suit with a Southern accent.

Mike

Re Matthew's comment "which, combined with a decent macroeconomic situation, could pave the way for Democratic inroads into a widish swathe of "red" America. It could totally happen."
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Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.

I told you a YEAR AGO what is going to happen. Remember?

From http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2006/12/the_sweet_sweet_fed.php#comment-119132
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"Ah, Matthew. You don't realize the evil genius of Karl Rove.

When the bill for 6 years of corruption, venality, and economic incompetence comes due, someone has to be the designated scapegoat. And if Nancy Pelosi doesn't make sure that it's the Republicans, then it's going to be her.

The Republicans are handing the incoming giddy Democrats a big brown bag of cat manure called an "inverted yield curve."

It's the Fed's job to now make sure that bag bursts.

The MOST reliable predictor of a recession is the yield curve. Normally, long term Treasuries sell at interest rates well above rates paid on short term bills. When the yield curve inverts -- i.e. interest on short term bills rises above
that on long term bond -- then a recession follows in 8-12 months. The likelihood of recession increases as the inversion gets steeper.

The latest yield curve model --developed by Fed researcher Jonathan Wright -- indicates a probability of recession within 12 months to be around 47% --very high by historical standards.
An earlier model by Fed Researcher Estrella puts the probability at around 41%. If the Fed raises the federal funds rate yet again, recession will become a certainty.

Just in time for the 2008 campaign."
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Now watch carefully, kiddies. Nothing in my right hand. Nothing in my left.

Ta da:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080109/ts_afp/useconomygrowthrecession_080109152251

"pro-Democrat"

Et tu, brute? ET TU???

"Meanwhile, a prolonged period of Democratic control of congress would serve to keep controversial cultural wedge issues off the legislative table"

Are you perhaps laboring under the delusion that nothing the Democratic party would like to enact, given control of Congress, could be considered a "contraversial cultural wedge issue"??? Or is it just that, improbably, you think a Democratic Congressional majority would have the self restraint to avoid issues like gun control, denying workers the right to secret ballots in union certification elections, amnesty for illegal aliens, and so on, and so forth?

On both points I think you'd be nuts.

I've always thought that the collapse of George Allen's political career was a turning point for the Republicans. And what ever happened, for that matter, to former Senators Frist and Santorum?

Re Matthew's comment "If President Obama and a Democratic congress manage to pass a few pieces of popular legislation that have been clever designed to re-enforce pro-Democrat institutional and social trends"
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"Pro-Democrat" as in :
a) Giving people statements telling them that their payroll taxes go into their "personal accounts" for retirement
b) Letting Bush and the Republicans steal $4 Trillion from those accounts with NO filibusters , no publicity and with the votes of some Democrats
c) Proclaiming repeatedly that Social Security and Medicare funding is "Not a Problem"
d) Then letting retiring baby boomers know ..oh.. around 2010 that the "accounts" into which the boomers have been paying for 45 years are empty unless the boomers vote to elect Democrats for decade after decade
e) Never, in the past 45 years, taking any action to actually give US citizens legal ownership of their Social Security/Medicare assets --ownership like that which protects the wealth of the superrich from "taking" per the Fourth Amendment

Are those the kind of enslaving "Pro-Democrat" measures you're talking about??

> The Republicans are handing the incoming giddy
> Democrats a big brown bag of cat manure called an
> "inverted yield curve."
>
> It's the Fed's job to now make sure that bag
> bursts.

In place of "God, guns, and gays" it will be "Iraq, the economy, and dolchstosslegende" all the time at 101% intensity. I think it will still be better to have a Democratic President, but I don't see any signs that any of the three leaders are prepared for this.

Cranky

The GOP problem is much bigger than being divided in one election cycle. I see their death as a national presidential party because the nation has moved past them on the issues including religion in politics, war, health care, education, the environment, etc. This movement has been going on for more than 20 years and started catching up with them in 92 when they lost the cold war as an issue. Say what you want about Al Gore as a candidate, he got more votes than Bush. Without the Cold War as an issue, they need the GWOT to provide enough swing votes to hold the WH. Fear and hate are no longer winning strategies and so the next PVSC will have to not only win over the Christianist but pick up enough swing voters (who are repelled by the Christianist) to win a national election. How do they do that without fear and hate? Of course, the Dems can easily blow any election by nominating some wing-nut of their own choosing....

The Dems are at the beggining of a big run that only they can blow,....and probably will.

If Bush had been smarter, we'd be staring at a Republican majority for some time.

If he'd been smarter, he would probably not have been able to get elected in the first place, as Cheney would never have selected him. We'd probably have ended up with President Quayle.

All this talk about dolchstosslegende is a little overwrought. Germany was truly humiliated by its defeat in WWI - it had to give up land, lost economically productive regions such as Alsace and Danzig, had to allow foreign troops to occupy the economic heart of the country (the Rheinland), and suffered wrenching social change as a result of the old elite being discredited. Really a US "defeat" in Iraq would be a footnote in history by comparison, I'm not sure how hay there really is to be made there outside the fringes. Most Americans seem happy to just ignore the issue entirely.

Military spending is out of control. It is biggest single problem in the budget and needs to be dealt with before it bancrupts our country.

Social Security is sound as a rock with its own seperate funding stream and has trust fund savings socked away for later.

Medicare has a pretty decent dedicated funding stream but need reform as part and parcel of an overall health care upgrade for America that streamlines the delivery system and enhances the revenue stream.

I think if the Democratic majority can get military spending under control, safeguard Social Security and upgrade America health care system that will be rewarded with a political realignment that favors democrats for decades.

But I think what you're missing here is the possibility that who is in office influences events-which is presumably the reason we want Democrats to win elections in the first place. There was a very low likelihood that Bush was going to handle 9/11 well, because he was Bush.

Similarly, there are internal contradictions within the Republican coalition that make it difficult for it to rule both effectively and coherently over the long run. So "events" aren't just random.

I wouldn't disagree with the overall argument being made here, but I think it oversimplifies the case of George Allen. George Allen didn't lose simply because he made a racial faux-pas, he made a racial faux-pas in a state that is, especially in the north, increasingly diverse. Northern Virginia's population only continues to grow in size and influence, and George Allen's failure to take Virginia's changing composition into consideration is a case of real weakness. There might be an awful terrorist attack next week, but, unless it wipes out Fairfax County, Virginia's changing demography is one circumstance that isn't reversible.

> All this talk about dolchstosslegende is a little
> overwrought. [...] Really a US "defeat" in Iraq
> would be a footnote in history by comparison, I'm
> not sure how hay there really is to be made there
> outside the fringes. Most Americans seem happy to
> just ignore the issue entirely.

I will e-mail President Kerry and see if he agrees with that theory.

Cranky

Seriously, Cheney & Co. have transferred several trillion dollars to the accounts of their friends/class, have tilted the legal and constitutional framework in their favor and nailed it down, and have set themselves up to survive just about whatever might come in the next 50 years short of desertification of the entire continent (maybe that too). They aren't going to give that up and they ARE going to fight very dirty to keep it.

Re vanya's comment "All this talk about dolchstosslegende is a little overwrought. Germany was truly humiliated by its defeat in WWI"
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1) Most Germans didn't give a shit. What drove them into an abyss of deep hatred and low grade civil war was the economic Depression. They went from being highly prosperous to losing their life savings to hyperinflation. Returning war veterans could NOT find jobs. Unemployment soared. And that was before the Great Depression hit.

2) Here's the latest forecast for the US economy from Nouriel Roubini -- the professor of economics at New York University --speaking on a panel at the American Economics Association Annual Conference:

"This is the worst housing recession in US history and an economy-wide recession is now unavoidable and it will be a severe recession rather than a mild recession;

and there is now a risk of a systemic financial crisis. This is a crisis of insolvency, not just illiquidity;

it is a problem of unmeasurable uncertainty (on the size of the losses and who is holding the toxic waste) rather than priceable risk;

and liquidity risk is now severe and not manageable as we have a shadow financial system where non-bank institutions (SIVs, conduits, money market funds, hedge funds, investment banks, etc.) borrow short/liquid and invest in long/illiquid assets; so they are subject to a severe liquidity/rollover risk but they don’t have access to the lender of last resort support of the central bank in the case of a liquidity run."
Ref: http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/235798/

3) When things REALLY turn to shit in about 7 months, the Democrats will have been in control of Congress for 18 months -- who do you think is going to be stuck with the blame?

4) Do you people think it's a fucking coincidence that the Republican frontrunners -- Romney and Huckabee -- are state governors who've never been in Washington??

Whereas the Democrats' leaders are both Senators who can be blamed for the coming shitstorm.

Don, Bill Clinton wasn't blamed for the recession he inherited from Bush the First.

I don't think a Democratic administration would be stupid enough to allow a major terrorist attack such as 9/11. Bush repeatedly ignored warnings from multiple sources. Perhaps they were too subtle, like "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the US". Maybe the CIA should have used more curse words.

The Gore administration would not have utterly ignored Richard Clarke, for example. No way.

Further, if it did happen, any of our candidates are good enough at speechifying that they could easily outclass a belligerent, be-megaphoned Bush on a pile of rubble. The GOP might hope for another 9/11 on a Democratic watch -- and they'd better be careful what they wish for, because if it happened, it would absolutely cement the rule of the Dems for several generations.

Any wish-list as long, complex or fanciful as the one presented (no matter how much I agree with it) must append onto itself the following condition:
And while we're at it, why don't we wish that everyone gets a pony, too!

"Had Bush responded effectively to the challenges of 9-11, one could imagine the GOP regaining Reaganesque levels of dominance."

This makes no sense. Bush paid no political price for either the smoking hole in lower Manhattan nor the ongoing clusterfuck in Afghanistan (which most Americans are completely unaware of). Bush is unpopular because of the economy and the Iraq war - neither of which have anything to do with 9/11.

Katie writes: "I wouldn't disagree with the overall argument being made here, but I think it oversimplifies the case of George Allen. George Allen didn't lose simply because he made a racial faux-pas, he made a racial faux-pas in a state that is, especially in the north, increasingly diverse."

I don't think he lost many Repiglican votes, and he still barely lost to Webb. This despite the fact that the guy was the worst sort of racist weasel, and a gutless one to boot. I'm glad he's gone and I hope he never makes an attempt at another office.

In Allen's case no noose is good noose.


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