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Who Wrote Ron Paul's Newsletters?

16 Jan 2008 10:37 am

Julian Sanchez and Dave Weigel report for Reason that it was primarily Lew Rockwell, probably working with a few associates, also named. They also report that the racist writings in the Ron Paul newsletters were part of a larger strategy:

Rockwell explained the thrust of the idea in a 1990 Liberty essay entitled "The Case for Paleo-Libertarianism." To Rockwell, the LP was a "party of the stoned," a halfway house for libertines that had to be "de-loused." To grow, the movement had to embrace older conservative values. "State-enforced segregation," Rockwell wrote, "was wrong, but so is State-enforced integration. State-enforced segregation was not wrong because separateness is wrong, however. Wishing to associate with members of one's own race, nationality, religion, class, sex, or even political party is a natural and normal human impulse."

The most detailed description of the strategy came in an essay Rothbard wrote for the January 1992 Rothbard-Rockwell Report, titled "Right-Wing Populism: A Strategy for the Paleo Movement." Lamenting that mainstream intellectuals and opinion leaders were too invested in the status quo to be brought around to a libertarian view, Rothbard pointed to David Duke and Joseph McCarthy as models for an "Outreach to the Rednecks," which would fashion a broad libertarian/paleoconservative coalition by targeting the disaffected working and middle classes. (Duke, a former Klansman, was discussed in strikingly similar terms in a 1990 Ron Paul Political Report.) These groups could be mobilized to oppose an expansive state, Rothbard posited, by exposing an "unholy alliance of 'corporate liberal' Big Business and media elites, who, through big government, have privileged and caused to rise up a parasitic Underclass, who, among them all, are looting and oppressing the bulk of the middle and working classes in America." [...]

The presidential campaign Rothbard and Rockwell supported in 1988 was Ron Paul's run on the Libertarian Party ticket. In 1992, they were again ready to back Paul, until Pat Buchanan convinced the obstetrician to withdraw and back his conservative challenge to then-president Bush. "We have a dream," Rockwell wrote in that same January 1992 edition of RRR, "and perhaps someday it will come to pass. (Hell, if 'Dr.' King can have a dream, why can't we?) Our dream is that, one day, we Buchananites can present Mr. and Mrs. America, and all the liberal and conservative and centrist elites, with a dramatic choice....We can say: 'Look, gang: you have a choice, it's either Pat Buchanan or David Duke.'"

Sanchez and Weigel go on to note that Paul has shifted gears well away from this political strategy:

But perhaps the best refutation of the old approach is not the absence of race-baiting rhetoric from its progenitors, but the success of the 2008 Ron Paul phenomenon. The man who was once the Great Paleolibertarian Hope has built a broad base of enthusiastic supporters without resorting to venomous rhetoric or coded racism. He has stuck stubbornly to the issues of sound money, "humble foreign policy," and shrinking the state. He wraps up his speeches with a three-part paean to individualism: "I don't want to run your life," "I don't want to run the economy," and "I don't want to run the world." He talks about the disproportionate effect of the drug war on African-Americans, and appeared at a September 2007 Republican debate on black issues that was boycotted by the then-frontrunners. All this and more have brought him $30 million-plus from more than 100,000 donors; thousands of campaign volunteers, and the largest rallies he's ever spoken to, including a crowd of almost 5,000 in Philadelphia.

This is all true enough as far as the strategic direction of the libertarian movement goes. Then again, as best I can tell Paul's anti-immigration views have about as much appeal as his libertarian ones. Most of all, though, I think this dog won't hunt: "Ron Paul may not be a racist, but he became complicit in a strategy of pandering to racists—and taking 'moral responsibility' for that now means more than just uttering the phrase." That's right on moral responsibility, but I don't think it's right on racism. To have the sort of indifference to the well-being and sentiments of black people that you'd have to have to be complicit in "a strategy of pandering to racists" in the way that Paul was, just is racism in my view.

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It seems now that Ron Paul's real electoral support has been shown to be limited to a few wackos, the Paulbots have retired from hijacking any and every thread that mentions Paul. If a libertarian Republican can't win NH, there really isn't any place he could win. I wonder if this rather poor showing hinders our hopes of a Paul third-party bid?

I think there are more important issues that cause one to oppose Ron Paul than this spotty issue of racism. It is, after all, very cryptic. Our arguments here on your blog about the gold standard were, after all, mostly an informed and spirited discussion on the possible negative reprocussion of a gold standard. Don't forget, that is a policy that he as President can implement without Congress (or so I assume).

Um, "this spotty issue of racism" is rather important, actually, and completely disqualifying regardless of whatever other qualities Paul might possess. I agree completely with Matt's conclusion. No one held a gun to Paul's head and made him endorse the odious views that went out under his name. He used his very own libertarian free will to decide the strategy was peachy keen. He can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

By this measure any Republican who benefited from "the Southern Strategy" including Ronald Reagan and George Bush are rascist.

To have the sort of indifference to the well-being and sentiments of black people that you'd have to have to be complicit in "a strategy of pandering to racists" in the way that Paul was, just is racism in my view.

Quite right, Surely this is also true of Hilary Clinton's campaign?

Can someone explain to me what "taking moral responsibility" means?

Well, as many a RonPaulBot is quick to point out, the odious letters were written by a staff who was dismissed. Now that may be enough to dissuade you and I on Ron Paul, but I don't think middle white America sees it that way. I think they will be quick to forgive Mr. Paul in the same way that the RonPaulBots grant him clemency. Which is why I harp on the gold standard issue, because I believe you can easily make a convincing argument that the gold standard is bad for America and the RonPaulBots.

Hillary Clinton is married to an adulterer, so does she support adultery?

What Ranald said. The Clinton campaign has been engaged in heavy race-baiting for the last couple weeks; if racist attacks make Paul racist, then they make Clinton racist. (This, of course, isn't even touching upon the Clintons' past with welfare reform, the crime bill, Ricky Ray Rector, etc., all of which indicate a certain lack of sympathy for black people.) So: are you ready to vote for a racist in the general, Matt?

To Ricky...


No... we just don't waste our time on stupid ridiculous nonsense like this article, which is clearly a hit piece designed to make sheeple rethink their opportunity to find freedom again.

Pwned

Libertarianism denounces violence, this includes state sponsored forced integration. The states power is enforced at the barrel of a gun. Thus, denouncing forced integration does not necessarily make you a racist in my view.

Can someone please define racism for me? I always thought it meant that you were racist if you think one race is superior to another. How does pointing out facts about certain people of a certain race become racism? I'm just confused. But then I went to private school so I wasn't indoctrinated into believing that every time I make a comment about a person of color that I am automatically a racist.

I, personally, could not live with a painstaking investigation of every facet of my life over the last 25 years, and I doubt that very many others could, either. During the worst period of the newsletter era, according to the Reason story linked above, Paul's organization made almost a million dollars a year. OK. So, they discovered that pandering to fringe groups was a very lucrative business.

Ron Paul is not a racist, and 90% of the coverage I have seen accepts that point. Move on. I don't care about what happened back then, and I'll be sending the Paul campaign another $100 dollars or so on the 21st.

Dig around on the web, and find Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "Beyond Vietnam" speech, listen to it, and tell me who you think he would be supporting for president in this campaign.

That's a really odd conclusion. I can't believe Paul wouldn't get your vote because he was complicit in this nonsense when 2-3 troops are being killed every day. Paul is not the problem.

The last sentence is absolutely right. Our general discourse in this county has adopted a definition of racism so narrow that it is literally impossible to be a racist if you don't explicitly say "I hate black people."

Racism means things like:

(1) Preferring not to hire blacks (because you think they are likely to be underqualified);

(2) Preferring not to live in a neighborhood with a significant black population (because you're worried about crime);

(3) Not wanting young black men shopping in your store (because they're the ones who commit thefts and holdups);

(4) Assuming that if blacks are underrepresented in elite schools, professions, etc., it's because they just lack the intelligence to succeed (because everyone knows that the US is a meritocracy except for affirmative action);

(5) Encouraging other people to think things like 1-4.

It's perfectly possible to do all that and still enjoy watching black athletes or actors or even for "some of your best friends" to be black, but in contemporary American discourse, unless you irrationally hate all blacks, you can't be a racist.

Ignorant racist crackers - The most courted voting bloc in America over the past 20 years?

Lucky them!

NAACP President: Ron Paul Is Not A Racist

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/011308_not_racist.htm

Now lets get back to the real issues.

Doesn't the libertarian movement, in general, have a record of supporting the right to discriminate? Weren't libertarians generally standing with white southerners in the 50's and 60's? My impression is that libertarians were not the ones marching with MLK and, generally, supported the right of white southerners to discriminate against black people in restaurants and other private businesses. I'm hardly an expert on this so maybe someone can point to a good primer for libertarian views on the civil rights struggles of the 50's/60's.

2-3 troops are being killed every day

I honestly don't care about the troops anymore. How many Iraqis are getting killed every day? Anywhere between a couple hundred thousand and a million and a half Iraqis have died since the invasion. I feel bad for anyone who got suckered into joining the U.S. military, but they at least had some idea what they were getting into and some choice in the matter. No one in Iraq chose to have their country blown apart by fucknut Americans.

To Ricky...


No... we just don't waste our time on stupid ridiculous nonsense like this article, which is clearly a hit piece designed to make sheeple rethink their opportunity to find freedom again.

Pwned

Here's a hint, if you claim something you wrote "Pwned" something or someone, odds are good it didn't.

Ron Paul is not a racist, and 90% of the coverage I have seen accepts that point. Move on. I don't care about what happened back then, and I'll be sending the Paul campaign another $100 dollars or so on the 21st.

Back then? The 90s? Yeah ancient history why do people bring this pre-9/11 stuff up?

I don't think Paul is racist, but Lew Rockwell probably is. You think Lew isn't going to be influential in a Paul administration? If Paul hasn't dumped him by now there is no reason to believe he will. Lew will be at least as high up as Rove was, if not higher.

It is interesting what people call "disqualifying" remarks. What other remarks should be "disqualifying"? Maybe you should make a list for me, I can't think for myself.

"It seems now that Ron Paul's real electoral support has been shown to be limited to a few wackos, the Paulbots have retired from hijacking any and every thread that mentions Paul."

Did you know that Ron Paul has garnered more votes total than Rudy Guilliani or Fred Thompson so far? For better or worse, Ron Paul's message is resonating with a substantial number of people, despite little traditional media coverage.

"To have the sort of indifference to the well-being and sentiments of black people that you'd have to have to be complicit in "a strategy of pandering to racists" in the way that Paul was, just is racism in my view."

How can you write this when the NAACP Austin Chapter President came out in defence of Ron Paul, citing his twenty years relationship with Dr. Paul? Why would you trust an unsigned, obscure newsletter over this sort of personal testimony (which has been coming from all of Dr. Paul's acquaintances)? Besides, Dr. Paul is plainly not indifferent to the well-being of African American's, especially considering his position on the drug policy and death penalty.

"Sanchez and Weigel go on to note that Paul has shifted gears well away from this political strategy."

It wasn't Paul who changed the strategy--it was never Paul's strategy to begin with--it was Lew Rockwell, as the article points out. You should correct this, lest you be misleading.

Nice try, but Ron Paul's heroes are MLK and Rosa Parks...Did you see how he beat Rudy AGAIN in Michigan...and Thompson too!!!!

Smart political strategists know that race is one of the issues that will make white baby boomers hide under their beds. Presenting Ron Paul as a racist has been a smart move on his opponents part. Instead of relying on spin masters please visit ronpaullibrary.org to read his actual writings on topics such as race. Many have called the WWII generation the best, I believe many will come call the baby boom generation the worst.

The anti-Paulbots who think they can easily make a case against the gold standard are kidding themselves, as usual.

The case against the gold standard is merely a case for counterfeiting and it can't stand up either morally or economically. It is popular with government economists because power means buying votes and buying votes requires either counterfeiting or going broke sooner.

As with all frauds, the counterfeiting needs its own euphemistic and obscurantist rhetoric to fool casual observers, but it's easily exposed if one looks at all carefully.

Nice try, but Ron Paul's heroes are MLK and Rosa Parks...Did you see how he beat Rudy AGAIN in Michigan...and Thompson too!!!!

You really think it's racist to say that it's natural for people to congregate with those similar to themselves?

You really think it's racist to say that it's natural for people to congregate with those similar to themselves?

Re "To have the sort of indifference to the well-being and sentiments of black people that you'd have to have to be complicit in "a strategy of pandering to racists" in the way that Paul was, just is racism in my view "
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The problem is that the Democratic Party leadership -- especially the Clintons -- have shown an even greater malignant indifference to black people. And disguised it with two-faced lip service.

Ron Paul did not push NAFTA. Ron Paul did not pander to corporations and the Hispanic swing vote by supporting the functional equivalent of treason -- importing tens of millions of immigrants --both legal and illegal -- to destroy economic opportunities and wages for our poorest citizens.

It is not Ron Paul who sets up grossly disportionate sentences for blacks vs whites in the war on drugs-- for "crack" vs "cocaine". It is not Ron Paul who functionally condemns most black males to either live life in prison or to die in Iraq protecting Israel.

It is not Ron Paul Who disarms the people of poor neighborhoods and then refuses to provide adequate police protection. Who thinks it fine for millions of black youths to endure 12 years of a shitty education which gives them no hope --for the sake of pandering to teachers unions.

Interesting to note that there's not a single racist comment in the above quote from Lew Rockwell. Sure they may be guilty of some questionable political tactics, just as the neoconservative pandering to christian conservatives that began in earnest in the 1980's was a questionable manipulation of a large voting bloc.

The political strategy was to try and find a particular strata of society in which to exploit for sheer numbers. Again, just as the neocons did with the religious right. It's unfortunate that they felt they had to come up with some scheme in order to win voters, but I believe they felt then as they do now, that they're facing an "unholy alliance of 'corporate liberal' Big Business and media elites, who, through big government, have privileged and caused to rise up a parasitic Underclass, who, among them all, are looting and oppressing the bulk of the middle and working classes in America." It could be worded better for sure, but the result is the same. They're against the corporatist, elitist, mercantilistic, welfare/warfare state that we're currently in. No where in that quote did they link up the notion of "parasitic underclass" with any single minority. The connection, in fact, is being made in your minds. Why?

Ron Paul has said again and again that he didn't write these things. Do you believe he's a liar? After researching his ten term career as a congressman from Texas, and looking at his voting record, listening to hours of his speeches, observing his love of Ghandi, MLK, his tolerance of all relgious people, his support from the NAACP in Texas, his online support from the gay community, from the Jewish community, etc, etc., etc, These allegations are false. Let it go.

Win the argument, not by cheating and pandering to emotional hot button issues, but by trying to defeat Ron Paul's platforms: Individual liberty, individual responsibility, no policing the world, no war in Iraq, no IRS, sound money (which may or may NOT include some variation of the gold standard - which you'll discover if you do your research), limited government, states rights, and the Constitution. Stop trying to ruin a good man by attacking his supporters. Grow up, move on.

Let's give scrutiny to Ron Paul and ignore the problems with the other candidates. Even if Ron Paul were a racist, his proposals and policies go against these ideas. Now Hillary, Barack and Edwards believe in legalized theft and are willing to enforce it. Is that better? McCain, Thompson, Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee believe its ok killing innocent civilians as part of the war on terror. They also believe its ok to have our soldiers die in Iraq where we have no business being. These are real problems.

We can throw the baby out with the bath water and say Ron Paul is unacceptable and that's fine. Just don't tell me the other candidates are any better. In fact they are far worse. Let's give them the same kind of scrutiny RonPaulHaterBots are giving to Ron Paul.

Ricky, it looks like you spoke too soon!

Re "Wishing to associate with members of one's own race, nationality, religion, class, sex, or even political party is a natural and normal human impulse."
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I don't agree. But anyone care to take a look at the home neighborhoods of the Democratic leadership/Members of Congress and lay out the racial demographics of those neighborhoods?

Then do the same with the real rulers of the Democratic Party -- the top donors.

You really think it's racist to say that it's natural for people to congregate with those similar to themselves?

Yes.

Ask yourself this: why is it that your definition of "similar" is based on skin color?

Who Wrote Ron Paul's Newsletters?

My initial guess was Richard Steven Hack - but the newsletters weren't quite rambling and crazy enough - although this one might be.

Congrats to Lew Rockwell (and close buddy Justin Raimondo) on your newfound infamy. Gotta love the "libertarians."

How does it feel to singlehandedly torpedo the campaign of the only man who could save America?

Too funny.

I mean, he'll still be President one day, right Paultards? At least we'll see more of "teh crazy" for years to come.

Matt, you should be careful with your (admittedly small) flirtations with Justin - for various reasons. But you cannot say that you haven't been sufficiently warned. This is what this crowd is all about - not "antiwar." Rather, it's full-up with a weird combination of fun things like extreme Putin-love and crazy race baiting.

McCain was one of the Keating 5 in the Keating Scandal 20 years ago. If you want to go back 20 years to find mud on people, that is REAL.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five
"In 1989, the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, Calif., collapsed. Lincoln's chairman, Charles H. Keating Jr., was faulted for the thrift's failure. Keating, however, told the House Banking Committee that the FHLBB and its former chief Edwin J. Gray were pursuing a vendetta against him. Gray testified that several U.S. senators had approached him and requested that he ease off on the Lincoln investigation. It came out that these senators had been beneficiaries of $1.3 million (collective total) in campaign contributions from Keating."

One of these senators was John McCain, sponsor of the McCain Feingold Campaign reform bill (really an incumbent protection bill).

THE NATION; The Confusing Case of the Keating 5
By RICHARD L. BERKE
Published: October 28, 1990
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CEED81F3CF93BA15753C1A966958260

But, since McCain is one of the media "anointed" candidates, we don't hear about this.

Liberarianism didn't really clearly exist in the 50's and 60's. Libertarians don't support racism, though we support the right to your own biases.

@ Kevin

No, he said, "race, nationality, religion, class, sex, or even political party," not "skin color."

Example of a disqualifying remark:
#1. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

I'm amazed at how many people are working so hard to make sure this story doesn't entirely lose its pulse. Ron Paul is associated with, but did not write, some harsh phrases that can be found in 15 year old photocopies ... That's your breaking news?

Meanwhile, he is the only viable candidate who will end the ethnic cleansing called the war on drugs. He is the only candidate proposing to actually have enough respect for the Iraqis to "give them their country back."

His anti-government belief system draws some racists and quasi-racists who are anti government too. That's the beginning and end of your story. You do realize that, right?

If you look at real issues, all other candidates are proposing policies that will result in the mass imprisonment and an ongoing massacre of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of minorities. But that's okay because they use flowery phrases ...

Thanks for your article about photo copies. Please don't talk about the legions of blacks rotting in prison, or the Iraqi children with their arms and legs blown off.

Obviously from this article, the newsletter issue is dead.

You know, this entire line of argument can and will most likely be used to associate Obama with some afrocentrist preacher he's linked himself with.

No... we just don't waste our time on stupid ridiculous nonsense like this article, which is clearly a hit piece designed to make sheeple rethink their opportunity to find freedom again.

Pwned


You take an awful lot of interest in this election for someone not old enough to vote.

Ron Paul's problem is his ties to Lew Rockwell and the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Rockwell rarely makes overtly racist comments, but it is clear after thoroughly studying LewRockwell.com and the Mises Institute that he has such heavy ties to neo-Confederate "racialist" groups that it's hard to argue he isn't a racist. It is clear that his audience consists of survivalists and Bircher-types, and I'm being kind.

While it isn't clearly apparent from a first impression that Rockwell himself is one of these neo-Confederate types, his writing is filled with doublespeak and codewords that extremist paleoconservatives will understand clearly.

Once the mainstream media finishes digging up Rockwell's past, Paul's campaign will implode and tarnish the image of libertarianism in the public mind for a long time.

Good grief. Published on the 16th - THREE days following a statement of support of Paul and condemnation of attacks on his character by Austin NAACP Pres (a chapter that truly knows what racism is about no less)...

Quite a clear example of the MSM cesspool of disinfo and smear regurgitating the very same ad infinitum as their main 'journalistic' pursuit. And they wonder why his supporters are 'spamming' their comment boxes - somebody has to correct this utter incompetence.

You want to talk racist? How about questioning why not a single other candidate Republican or Democrat will not stand in support with Paul's call for a Presidential pardon to all non-violent drug offenders and a repeal of this phony drug war that criminalizes entirely on race lines.

You know that according to IQ data, half of you are below average intelligence? It shows.

Ron Paul isn't a racist. You're just like the Bush admin/media group-think that got us into Iraq.

Ron Paul supporters are average people. The people who say we aren't are racist only about politics. Hatemongers. Hate us because we don't think like you; real classy.

(2) Preferring not to live in a neighborhood with a significant black population (because you're worried about crime);

(3) Not wanting young black men shopping in your store (because they're the ones who commit thefts and holdups);

(...)

You really think it's racist to say that it's natural for people to congregate with those similar to themselves?

Yes.

Well, I like very mixed neighbourhoods myself and am living in one, but then I'm the caricature of a cosmopolitan bleeding heart champagne socialist.

I wouldn't like to live in an area were I would feel threatened by criminals, but then fortunately that doesn't make me a racist in London, as there are solidly white areas which are just as dangerous as other areas dominated by other groups. But if I was living in the US in an area as is depicted in "The Wire", I would try to get the hell out of there as fast as possible, because I would feel threatened and out of place - that doesn't make me a racist.

Also, ethnic groups tend to huddle together in certain areas, e.g. if you drive from Heathrow to Central London, you'll come across neighbourhoods which are solidly Pakistani or Indian. I don't like this tendency because it leads to isolation instead of integration or interaction - but I wouldn't call the people choosing to stick together in this way racist necessarily.

Please don't talk about the legions of blacks rotting in prison

Ron Paul - Champion of African-Americans!!!!

Awesome.

And true - oh so true, just ask Lew:

Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the “criminal justice system,” I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

There has never been a safer assumption.

Thanks LewPaul. Maybe he should have had Steve Sailer write his newsletters - he's basically from the same fever swamp as Rockwell.

Jesus.

Eric Dondero, his former aide of 12 years reports that Paul wrote 40% of the Newsletters and was very involved in them, Rockwell the other 60%. Funny how Reason leaves that out of their report.

And its not just racism, its insane Conspiracy theories in these newsletters and anti-Israel rhetoric as well.

When you go on Alex "The Jews did 9/11" JOnes radio show, which is all about insane conspiracies, placate to their views and engage openly in others like the North American Union.

Paul is a loon, and the media should expose him instead of continue to give him a pass

In fact:

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers.

Maybe Steve Sailer was also a ghost writer for Paul.

If not, Rockwell probably owes him some copyright royalties.

You know you've got a great candidate when the best his detractors can come up with is quotes from a fifteen year old newsletter taken out of context and written by someone else.

Ron Paul's entire platform is a constitutional federal government, and everyone here knows it. If you no longer want to have a Constitution -- if you would rather that federal politicians make up laws as they go along -- be forthright enough to admit it. Trying to associate constitutionalism with racism is pathetic.

Jesus H Christ.

You can make a case that Plessy vs Ferguson wasn't wrong on Constitutional grounds but only an idiot would suggest it worked operationally. 'Separate but equal' quickly devolved to 'separate but not at all equal', white schools got funded, black schools proportionately did not.

Segregation whether voluntary or state enforced is a bad thing because it almost guarantees inequalities in outcome. It doesn't matter how talented you might be as a person of color, it doesn't matter that by any conventional definitions of 'skill premium' you should be at the top of the pack, if all of the business deals are banged out on the golf course at a segregated Country Club, if all of the County road contracts are handed out around drinks at a segregated Social Club you are on the outside looking in.

That was Fifties and Sixties America and in some places still is. In my own city while the Elks Club nationally ended its segregational policy a couple of decades ago, it got maintained here because one man who was head of the membership board made it so. He personally made it so that a black City Councilman was blackballed. And it is not like this councilman just came out of nowhere, he was on the Council for a couple of decades and was a big figure in the community. But a now deceased Judge said 'No' and that was the end of that.

Like a lot of small cities the Elks Club here was where the judges, the lawyers, the large and small business men, the realtors got together to eat, drink, and deal (in both the gambling and business senses). When the time came to ink the contracts where do you think the business got steered?

It is why you want to tear your hair out when people complain about affirmative action and minority set asides for public contracts, a good deal of the reason why minorities don't get into the 'right' schools is because we are still struggling with the legacy of Plessy vs Ferguson, money flows to power and if power is organized along lines of race and gender guess who gets the money. And of course these effects are almost impossible to see from within the pool of privilege, the fact that you steered that road contract to Charley, and granted that prized internship to Charley's daughter can be disconnected from the fact that you mostly know Charley from some segregated social club.

People have the right of self-association, we don't have to let Swedes and Finns join the local Sons of Norway (we do, in fact they let me in and I am not even Scandinavian, but we don't have to), but it would be pretty troubling if the mayor, the city council men, and the county commissioners were all in the habit of gathering in the back room handing out the contracts. Well unfortunately in a lot of small towns and no so small towns that was just business as usual. Segregation voluntary or not will always distort market outcomes. It really is simple as that.

The PaulBots have clearly learned well from years of Bush apologists.

"Why do we care so much if we torture people, the OTHER guys are much worse"

"Abu Ghraib? pfft there are terrorists trying to kill us here, people"

"Warrantless wiretapping? Detention of US citizens because they're arbitrarily designated enemy combatants? Purging the US Attorneys? All figments of the traitorous libruhl media"

Unfortunately, if you want to be looked up to as a "principled" candidate, you're going to be held to a high standard, just like the US should be held to a higher standard than Al Qaeda.

If Paul really wants to be "principled" and take "moral responsibility" for "the small minded thoughts" which were written in the first-person that he "denounces", he should sue Rockwell for libel. Otherwise, what exactly does "moral responsibility" mean?

I didn't find anything racist with what Dr. Paul's newsletters discussed - the LA Times was quoted as stating the riots ended when the welfare checks were sent out - Washington DC in the early 90's was terrorized with young black males who had no respect for autority

is telling the truth now racist?

Don't forget, that is a policy that he as President can implement without Congress (or so I assume).

IANAL, but I don't think the president could take us back to a gold standard without Congressional Action. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution says that Congress has the power

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

Yes - Paul is a great candidate. Clearly.

It's just amazing that voters never notice that.

You have heard of voters, right?

Ron Paul's entire platform is a constitutional federal government, and everyone here knows it.

Oh, please.

The Sanctity of Life Act of 2007 which shreds the concept of judicial review?

Either people like you are totally snowed or blatant propagandists.

Again, maybe one day the voters will notice your great candidate.

Then again, since "we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in Washington DC are semi-criminal or entirely criminal" - maybe not.

At least he's a faux-constitutionalist.


It's hilarious watching all the Paulbots scream and jump up and down about how their candidate ISN'T RACIST (usually followed by a diatribe about how Ron Paul is the Only Hope that can save the US from collapse.)

Hey guys--we're just commenting on how these sort of links to wacky groups (and Ron Paul's continued flirtation with them) makes you all look. If libertarianism ever wants to get out of the

(And for those who claim that the Mises Institute and Rockwell aren't associated with some pretty stinky groups, please do your homework.)

to CRACK -

"You think Lew isn't going to be influential in a Paul administration?" No, I don't.

Has he influenced his decision making in his past 40 years in COngress? There is no indication of such an event ever occurring, so it is not fair to assume that it will.

Did Mike Hckabee say the other day that we need to scrap the Consitution and replace it so that it complies with teh Bible? - Yes, he did.

Should this be the topic of discussion instead of Paul's alleged racists views - Yes, because these words can be heard by anyone with the internet, coming out of his mouth.

The thing is, I can go around quoting these horrendous things other candidates have been saying, but there is no point because people like you will give them the pardon, just like the media does. Each network still tries to promote their candidate, regardless of what they say, do or stand for (which is pretty hard to tell anyway the way they all avoid direct answers to real issues, save RP of course). That is why you have not heard this flagrantly anti-american stance (because separation of Church and State is one of America's oldest tradidtions) of the Huckster being broadcast all over NBC, which initially showed the video of him saying this stuff. The Huck is their man, and he could be running a kiddie porno ring and I bet NBC would not tell ya that.

Point is, every person can focus on what they choose to focus on. You unfortunately choose to focus on some he said she said stuff. You are not really concerned with our nations politics, r even the well being of our country. Not because you do not support, that would be ignorant t say. It is because you choose to focus your efforts in an unproductive way. Focus your energy on trying to really understand each candidate, what they want to do for us, why they are running in the first place, and do they even mean anything of what they say, or are they trying feed me what I want to hear. Then you are being productive and your decision will be well merritted, what ever your decision may be.

Self-Improvement should be a goal of every productive human being. Other wise you are just waiting for a hand out and offer very little to our society.


lol Eric Dondero isn't reliable. He's a former fired aid. He was fired for smelling, never showering, lying and being constantly late.

Incredible how a hardcore Zionist rag like TNR can succeed in undermining the only GOP peace candidate. Somehow I don't think the expose would've been published if RP supported aid to Israel.

"Did Mike Hckabee say the other day that we need to scrap the Consitution and replace it so that it complies with teh Bible? - Yes, he did."

OMG he did? That makes Doc P's statement about fascism being wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross, kinda come to life huh.

This one is fun:

I didn't find anything racist with what Dr. Paul's newsletters discussed

is telling the truth now racist?

Nice:

we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in (Washington DC) are semi-criminal or entirely criminal"

Ahh, the truth. It's not racist. The truth, as seen by a Paultard.

Crazy.

But he's a great candidate.

"Ask yourself this: why is it that your definition of "similar" is based on skin color?"

It isn't.

It's not about "race" anymore, it's about socio-economic class. Rich successful black people don't want live in the "Bad neighborhoods" either.

Incredible how a hardcore Zionist rag like TNR can succeed in undermining the only GOP peace candidate. Somehow I don't think the expose would've been published if RP supported aid to Israel.

Andrew, that's one way to look at it - the other way is that Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul undermined the "only GOP peace candidate" by writing this garbage and hawking it to fundraise in the first place, and then engaging in ridiculous, laughable backpedaling.

If you dispute the contents of these newsletters, that's one thing. On the other hand, what publications would you have preferred to see the Paul/Rockwell race baiting, conspiracy theorizing and hate published in?

If you don't care the well-being and sentiments of black people you are not a racist. You are a racist if you have a theory of the supremacy of the white men and you are ready to change the legal system in order to impose this absurd vision of the reality. But in a free society, you have the right to ignore other people: WASP, Italian, Irish, Jews, Black, Asian, and so on. So, in my opinion what Rockwell wrote can be critized from a pure political point of view, because it is really impolite and politically incorrect, but it cannot be accused to promote a racist legal order.

Paul isn't racist, anyone who has a shred of common sense, isn't prejudiced (meaning older white man from Texas = racist), and has actually LISTENED to his response will realize that.

Does that matter? Of course not. The minute this story went out (by the way, written by a guy who claims to be a "recovering homosexual") Paul's campaign was over.

Paul doesn't feel the need ti IMMEDIATELY distance himself from these controversial people because he believes people can think & say what they want no matter how dispicable it is. And he shouldn't have denounce it to prove that he ISN'T racist.

And that just doesn't work any more in thought police liberal-facist America.

This is proof that this country will come to an end. The one man who wants to return our "elected" officals back to adhering to the laws & traditions that gave us the standard of living we take for granted today, gets wiped out over one blog and a society who doesn't listen.

SoCalJustis, you're an elitist. You think you're better than Ron Paul supporters because a couple are racist. Guess where the other candidates get their money. It aint from the People.

If you get donors in the 100's of thousands, you wont be able to screen for racist support. Also, if you run on individual liberty, you'll get racist support. I think you can tell that racists really wants that. The rest of the world is moving to criminalize their thoughts, so racists NEED Ron Paul to win. Doesn't make Ron Paul a racist. Don't be a dolt.

Let's see, Paul denounces the sentiments in the newsletters and calls them "small-minded." Many people have pointed to that and yelled "see, Paul had nothing to do with those newsletters!" Yet scores of others supporters claim that there's nothing wrong with the content of the newsletters, which Paul happens to denounce as small-minded.

It's like watching an internacine struggle where the combatants don't even realize they're fighting.

Ahh, I miss the Paultards.

Thanks for brining them back, Matt.

Thanks for the analysis, CriticalThinker. I'll take an insult from you.

There are plenty of things beside his supporters that make Ron Paul a racist - like his newsletters and his blatant use of race, race baiting and fearmongering to raise money.

If you can't see that, then so be it.

If pointing out the obvious makes one an "elitist," so be it. But that's an awfully strange definition. You're entitled to it if you want.

It's funny how his supporters react when frustrated.

Looking back on the '08 campaign, I think this is something that will be remembered. How Paul fans reacted when the (other) shoe dropped. From random commenters on blogs to Andrew Sullivan. It's been hysterical.

As for my status as an "elitist" - I want Paul to be included in every debate, reported on as a regular candidate, and given every opportunity to air his views. It's just funny how his supporters want his words shut down and pushed back under the rug when it becomes inconvenient.

If you don't want people to see these newsletters, and if you think publishing them is unfair, then you have no business calling someone else an elitist.

Whatever.

Hey Matt,

This topic is really boring... a real snooze. It's been hashed and rehashed too many times and there has been nothing credible about your claims that has ruined Dr. Paul's goals. How about zzzzz zzzzzz zzzzz

Whew. That was close. We almost got suckered into that whole, idiotic "peace and freedom" thing. I'm so glad to hear that he's been discredited. Thanks for clearing that up for us, guys. We can now return you to our regularly scheduled programming of spine-cracking debt, government-approved torture and permanent global war. Have a nice day, everyone.

By the way folks, with all of the discussion in this thread about the subtle variations of "racism", doesn't anyone find it a little ironic that people can so casually throw around epithets such as "Paulbot" and "Paultard"? Believe what you will about Ron Paul or his supporters, but stereotyping and name calling like this is the intellectual equivalent of calling blacks "n*****s", and is just as brain-dead.

The politics of personal destruction, libertarian style.

I (someone actually used the PaulTard smear again, it's like the good ol' days) formally challenge you and yours to devote equal time to all of our existing Politicians pending or pre-existing racism with the same level of self-righteous zeal.

One that's out of our systems, we can solve more pressing problems.

I put as much weight into this with regard to actually making a decision about Ron as the accusatory hysteria about Obama attending a Madrassa (Arabic for school by the way) or Kucinich's absolute belief in alien contact. Each of these things are DISTRACTIONS from real issues.

The things Dr. Paul now writes on the subject of Racism are really quite good, and well written, and more importantly written by him.

He has apologized for this misstep in the past (more than once) and his dismissal of this coming up again I believe is justified. It's just because the establishment feels threatened that this gets brought up to the degree that it does.

By the way folks, with all of the discussion in this thread about the subtle variations of "racism", doesn't anyone find it a little ironic that people can so casually throw around epithets such as "Paulbot" and "Paultard"? Believe what you will about Ron Paul or his supporters, but stereotyping and name calling like this is the intellectual equivalent of calling blacks "n*****s", and is just as brain-dead.

Let us not talk about Obama's wife's anti-white racism; or his church's enthusiasm for the Nation of Islam leader. Yes, the only racism that exists is that from whites towards the rest of the world. If Ron Paul's church had endorsed a KKK leader then he'd probably be on his way to a reeducation camp right now. But if it's a liberal being racist against whites then that's just great.

I find it interesting that a person can just be associated with someone who made a racist statement and their political career is destroyed; but, if they have, perform, or support killing a nine month old fetus then they'll get support from the NY Times and liberals all over the nation. "Progressive" thinking like this is well past me.

Regardless of what you think of Paul, this statement seems pretty shocking:

"...to be complicit in 'a strategy of pandering to racists' in the way that Paul was, just is racism in my view."

Does it apply in all cases? That is:

"...to be complicit in 'a strategy of pandering to X" in the way that Y was, just is X in my view."

That is, pandering to X means that you are X.

Seriously. Is that the standard? Because there are a lot of people who pander to radical environmentalists, to La Leche breastfeeding zealots, to Catholics, to auto workers, to bankers, etc.

What does mean for anyone who has ever pandered to Al Shapton?

I am all for judging people by the friends they keep, I suppose. But this sort of strict construction would seem to limit me to voting for myself.

Believe what you will about Ron Paul or his supporters, but stereotyping and name calling like this is the intellectual equivalent of calling blacks "n*****s", and is just as brain-dead.

Oh, please.

That's pathetic. As a 'tard/'bot, you can't realize how silly this is, you're hero being quite racist and all.

For the record, Obama supporters get called "Obamabots" around here frequently by Clinton and Edwards supporters - and they don't whine and complain and accuse others of being "racist" for doing so.

Having said that, not all of Paul's supporters are 'tards or 'bots.

Just the 'tards and the 'bots. Again, Matt - thanks for bringing them back. It's hilarious.

Hey Matt,

Nice to see that some of your supporters are calling Ron Paul supporters Paultards. Are all of you making fun of the mentally retarded. It sounds like you are a bunch of hypocrites.

Why does Matthew Yglesias hate America?

Every other candidate not only panders to far more evil groups, but stuffs their pockets full of their cash as well. If Dr. Paul is guilty of anything, it is trying to be a pragmatic politician. Or in other words, trying to be s politician. Yet you are willing to attack him for trying to create a movement large enough to save America from the destructive actions of the rest of DC and the bankster class who own them?

BTW, if this is the worst you can dig up about Ron Paul, why even bother? Oh wait, I guess it's because the "ignore him" tactic failed. Now it seems your fear compels you to the next tactic, character assasination.

You are a small man Mr. Yglesias. The world which you so gleefully set out to destroy, is also the world which you depend upon to sustain life.

How does your hatred towards Dr. Paul help make it a better place?

Yet still, I forgive you, as it is obvious you know not what you do.

OK, then we'll just call you "dipshit fools who would follow Ron Paul to another Jonestown." Is that better?

Geez--cultists.

I wonder how many black babies Ron Paul has brought
into the world ? Ron Paul has already said that
he made a mistake in not reviewing the Newsletter
close enough, this is nit picky. The Neocons have
much more lint on their suites.

The author should go pick on the Governator out in Kalifornia and work on getting a known racist that is in office right now out of office. We have racists comments on written record and recorded coming out of his mouth.

To have the sort of indifference to the well-being and sentiments of black people that you'd have to have to be complicit in "a strategy of pandering to racists" in the way that Paul was, just is racism in my view.

I think Paul's letters are a disqualifier for office (then again, so are Byrd's former affiliation with the KKK and Edward Kennedy's DUI Homicide), but "indifference to racism is racism" just doesn't fly.

By that rationale, Rothbard (a jew), through his indifference to the antisemitism courted by his strategy, is an antisemite.

Also marked as a racist is Obama for his failure to propose an end to the drug war.

As a latino Paul supporter, I paid attention when these things started coming to my attention several months ago. I then paid attention when the specific details came to my attention with the New Republic article. Here is my take:

1. First, there were parts of it that were screaming hit piece. It was written in such a way, and timed in such a way, to both bring these things up and crush down Paul. The intent was clear, and the phrasing/assumptions were clear. There were few questions raised, or serious attempts to explore all sides of the issue (which is now being done elsewhere, thankfully).

2. It was pretty obvious to me that Paul probably didn't write it--I had read and watched too much of his speeches, videos, and writings from across the decades to be fooled into completely buying what was being sold in smear attempts. If Paul did harbor any such sentiments somewhere, he put far more importance on libertarian ideals, and he certainly didn't champion them personally.

3. That being said, I was incredibly bothered by the fact that these things happened under his name. I recognize that he has addressed this issue before, and that he has taken responsibility for not watching the newsletters with more vigilance, but it still was disturbing to read some of those quotes. Many were not nearly as bad as people are making out...but some were, and they were tough to read, especially taken out of whatever context they were supposedly in.

4. I did seriously struggle with my support of Paul for a brief moment. Not because I thought he believed all of that crap, or that I thought he was selling it or supporting it, but because of the raw nature of it and the fact that a President has to control things like that.

5. Ultimately, though, I recognized that Paul was not a political machine at that time, and was a counter-establishment figure who didn't have access to the power, control, support, and options a more powerful figure might. He was busy with regular life as well as his political goals, and he either allowed some trusted people to use his name, or perhaps even turned a blind eye to rhetoric he shouldn't have (although I doubt that).

6. To cement my continued support for Paul is the fact that I vote for candidates based on their platform, agenda, policy positions, vote history, and personal character/integrity/leadership. Paul's has championed the issues that are important to me, and his platform is completely free of anything remotely racist. He has spoken out strongly for unpopular or controversial views, and has voted accordingly in his career. I respect that, and I must vote based on that.

7. While the newsletter flap still bothers me a little, there is no way I could vote against Paul and his platform when the rest of my options so poorly match up to my views. Once I started thinking about that, I realized not only did I still support Paul, but I was still excited about him. That put things in perspective. I voted for him on the 15th, proudly!

8. The newsletter thing should still be explored, I respect that. But not to the degree that it should take away from Paul's actual platform and message, which have nothing to do with racism.

-Liandro

Paul's best defense seems to be "Hey, I'm such a incompetent boob that I didn't know what was being published in my name for an extended period of time!" How inspiring.

Others are correct to note, however, that anybody who belongs to a party which gives a speaking slot, at a national convention, to a person who is on record as