Clinton surrogate Rep. Stephanie Tubbs-Jones repeatedly suggests that Barack Obama is a native of Somalia:
In fact, Obama is a native born citizen of the United States of America.
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The Clothing of His Country
26 Feb 2008 11:00 am
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As I understand it, the picture was taken in an ethnically Somali part of Kenya, the country where his father was a citizen (Obama may also have dual citizenship, depending on Kenya's rules)
Great job, Steph! You just may have lost your seat in Congress! Seriously, it's okay for Penn or Wolfson to say shit like this, but does Tubb-Jones realize that she is a, uh, Democrat? And that she needs Democrats to, uh, vote for her? To hold on to her job?
Wow! I'm trying to figure out whether she's ignorant, insidious, or both. Now that I've made the decision to vote for Obama, I'm wondring what took me so long.
I suppose that it doesn't occur to her that it couldn't possibly be true, since only native-born Americans are eligible for President.
I hear Mark Antony is an Egyptian.
as john said above, somalis are an ethnic group of kenya. they're not just in somalia.
but, in any case, the clothes were not "the clothing of his country" as "his country" is the united states. and, in any case, even if he did have dual citizenship with kenya (which he doesn't), the clothes still wouldn't be "his native dress" because they are the clothes of a different ethnic group than his father's (his father is a luo, not somali)
Hawaii isn't a Somali Protectorate?
Welcome to the First Lady of Arkansas. She learned a few things from the good ole boys of Little Rock.
Somewhere, Karl Rove is grinning in appreciation.
of course, doesn't get called on it.
It is Pat Buchanan doing the interview. Hell, he either thinks it's true or or should be true regardless of the facts.
It just goes to show you that our elected representatives in Congress are just as stupid, if not stupider, than the population at large.
as john said above, somalis are an ethnic group of kenya. they're not just in somalia.
but, in any case, the clothes were not "the clothing of his country" as "his country" is the united states. and, in any case, even if he did have dual citizenship with kenya (which he doesn't), the clothes still wouldn't be "his native dress" because they are the clothes of a different ethnic group than his father's (his father is a luo, not somali)
Clinton is doing Obama a favor. I am serious. This stuff is training wheels for the nastier stuff that some Republicans will throw at Obama in the general election. It's like fencing with pads before going into the real sword fight. The campaign, bloggers, and the media are getting practice on how to handle the nastiness that is coming down the pike.
Stephanie Tubbs-Jones will have no problem holding onto her East Cleveland seat (OH-11)
Dennis Kucinich has a primary challenger though in his district (OH-10).
I heard that Stephanie Tubbs is the daughter of Osama Bin Laden's great uncle and that she was born in a terrorism camp near Tehran.
It just goes to show you that our elected representatives in Congress are just as stupid, if not stupider, than the population at large.
It just goes to show you that our elected representatives in Congress are just as stupid, if not stupider, than the population at large.
Stupid like a fox.
as john said above, somalis are an ethnic group of kenya. they're not just in somalia.
but, in any case, the clothes were not "the clothing of his country" as "his country" is the united states. and, in any case, even if he did have dual citizenship with kenya (which he doesn't), the clothes still wouldn't be "his native dress" because they are the clothes of a different ethnic group than his father's (his father is a luo, not somali)
If the issue is birthplace, John McCain is more of a foreigner than Barack Obama.
But this is all silly.
Stop talking right now Stephanie.
I still like Judge Tubbs.
I wait for Krugman's denunciation!
This has been sort of depressing to watch. So what I've been telling myself is that this recent nonsense from the Clinton campaign is a sign that they've given up on securing the nomination, and are trying to strengthen Obama's general election chances by getting these attacks out into the public early and, thereby, inoculating him from them.
This is, of course, more or less absurd--but I find it more comforting than the alternative. Which is that at least some of the things the right wingers have been saying about the Clintons all this time is true.
I dunno if you've seen Stephanie Tubbs on TV before but I'm pretty willing to consider that this could be an ignorant mistake. She doesn't exactly come across as the brightest crayon in the box.
Serious desparation mode.
Someone should write a book about the Clinton campaign: "Playing the Race Card: From South Carolina to Somalia, Obama's Life as a Secret Muslim"
"First Black President" indeed. What a joke.
Hillary has made it a point to use her surrogates to get personal in this campaign, and Obama has not. Given that this is only a primary among members of the same party, that speaks volumes, doesn't it? Especially when you consider all of the material the Obama campaign would have had to work with had they chose to use it.
Symmetry. Stephanie Tubbs was Clinton surrogate Mathews pitted against the clueless Obama surrogate last week. Too funny!
Of course he's a native-born American. He couldn't run for president otherwise. Or did Bush destroy that part of the Constitution, too?
This is getting ridiculous. It's obvious the Clinton camp is just throwing as much manure as they can against the wall, hoping some of it will stick. It's somewhat encouraging to note that so far, instead of sticking, it's been bouncing back on them. Maybe the public isn't as dumb as Clinton thinks.
Wow... This is getting almost as entertaining as Alan Keyes' less subtle innuendo attacks that he was trying to use against Obama in the Illinois senate race a few years back. The Keyes for Senate website called it The Daily Obamination. Maybe the Clinton campaign should recycle the name...
To be fair, Obama was also wearing a polo shirt and khakis, the native garb of his tribe of Ivy League-educated attorneys.
It's ridiculous, and Congresswoman Tubbs Jones needs to hear it:
District Office (Shaker Heights, OH): 216) 522-4900
DC Office: (202) 225-7032
It's ridiculous, and Congresswoman Tubbs Jones needs to hear it:
District Office (Shaker Heights, OH): (216) 522-4900
DC Office: (202) 225-7032
Stephanie Tubbs-Jones is standing up for the rights of Low Information Voters (LIV) in her district, the 11th CD of Ohio.
Of course, defending the LIV in the Ohio 11th is a bit tricky, as much of that district is populated by professional suburbs.
A nice off-set to our girl Stephanie here, would be if someone from the deranged Right would suggest that John McCain actually became a Vietnamese citizen, while imprisoned as a POW.
This has convinced me that I possess a sense of shame which prevents me from ever holding elective office. Seriously, I mean, presumably Rep. Tubbs has children and/or parents watching her on television. Could she make an attempt to, you know, not make a fool of herself and avoid bringing shame upon her relatives?
What's wrong with being from Somalia?
What's wrong with being from Somalia?
Nothing, unless you're running for president; then, you're not eligible.
rebecca-
thanks for the phone #! i just called her DC office and the guy said "the phones are lighting up around here."
I BET THEY ARE!
anyone who believes this isn't the latest support in a coordinated attack against Obama on the "not American/patriotic enough" meme that has been co-opted from Republicans by the Clinton campaign is deluding themselves. they obviously pushed the picture to Drudge yesterday and today are putting out their "resident black female" (read: largely immune to MSM racism criticism) to use this line to call Obama's "true nationality" into question.
OF COURSE that's what they are doing.
follow-up: when i called the DC office, they told me to call the Ohio office.
when i did that, they gave me A THIRD NUMBER to call, so i guess no one on her staff wants to handle all the angry calls they're getting today.
Stephanie Tubbs was Clinton surrogate Mathews pitted against the clueless Obama surrogate last week.
And Matthews never asked her about Clinton's legislative accomplishments, so we don't know that she isn't just as clueless as Watson was.
Hillary Contra Obama, in five acts: http://ketchupandcaviar.com/2008/02/25/hillary-clintons-rhetorical-offenses-and-why-words-matter/#play
Act I, Scene I: Enter Clinton, stage right, wearing coronation robes—grand, radiant, inevitable. In the beginning the thought of not winning no more occurs to her than the thought of being a peasant occurs to a queen. The audience knows as soon as she walks onto stage how brittle these great expectations can be—that she’s set up for a fall, that the tragic seed of the unraveling exists in the rigidity of the expectations. When there is just the slightest hint of resistance to these expectations, things do indeed begin to unravel.
I realize that we are way past a point of reason but for all those who simply must see this as an official dirty tricks racist slur by the Clinton campaign speaking through a surrogate then I think we must accept as ObaTruth the statements, when?, last week by that Austin TX Obama surrogate who was sadly unable to name an Obama accomplishment.
Sadly both campaigns have surrogates who whatever their virtues are not ready for prime time.
Surely she meant to say that she saw no problem with Obama wearing the clothes of his heritage, a reference to Obama's Kenyan father. Yes Obama's father was not Somali but the photo was taken in Kenya and honestly, notwithstanding ROOTS, to 99.9% of Americans, Somalia, Kenya, really its all the same confusion.
I do know that Obama's constant playing of the race card has long ago become extremely tiresome.
And I have yet to hear a progressive's rational defense of Obama's decision that "fairy tale" is a racist slur.
That was the opening charge in Obama's race war, it was first made by Donna Brazile his surrogate, and was then embraced by Obama's campaign.
So, let's hear a rational excuse please. And if you can't provide one then perhaps some HRC critics should rethink the mindless meme of the Clinton race wars.
I realize that we are way past a point of reason but for all those who simply must see this as an official dirty tricks racist slur by the Clinton campaign speaking through a surrogate then I think we must accept as ObaTruth the statements, when?, last week by that Austin TX Obama surrogate who was sadly unable to name an Obama accomplishment.
Sadly both campaigns have surrogates who whatever their virtues are not ready for prime time.
Surely she meant to say that she saw no problem with Obama wearing the clothes of his heritage, a reference to Obama's Kenyan father. Yes Obama's father was not Somali but the photo was taken in Kenya and honestly, notwithstanding ROOTS, to 99.9% of Americans, Somalia, Kenya, really its all the same confusion.
I do know that Obama's constant playing of the race card has long ago become extremely tiresome.
And I have yet to hear a progressive's rational defense of Obama's decision that "fairy tale" is a racist slur.
That was the opening charge in Obama's race war, it was first made by Donna Brazile his surrogate, and was then embraced by Obama's campaign.
So, let's hear a rational excuse please. And if you can't provide one then perhaps some HRC critics should rethink the mindless meme of the Clinton race wars.
I realize that we are way past a point of reason but for all those who simply must see this as an official dirty tricks racist slur by the Clinton campaign speaking through a surrogate then I think we must accept as ObaTruth the statements, when?, last week by that Austin TX Obama surrogate who was sadly unable to name an Obama accomplishment.
Sadly both campaigns have surrogates who whatever their virtues are not ready for prime time.
Surely she meant to say that she saw no problem with Obama wearing the clothes of his heritage, a reference to Obama's Kenyan father. Yes Obama's father was not Somali but the photo was taken in Kenya and honestly, notwithstanding ROOTS, to 99.9% of Americans, Somalia, Kenya, really its all the same confusion.
I do know that Obama's constant playing of the race card has long ago become extremely tiresome.
And I have yet to hear a progressive's rational defense of Obama's decision that "fairy tale" is a racist slur.
That was the opening charge in Obama's race war, it was first made by Donna Brazile his surrogate, and was then embraced by Obama's campaign.
So, let's hear a rational excuse please. And if you can't provide one then perhaps some HRC critics should rethink the mindless meme of the Clinton race wars.
I realize that we are way past a point of reason but for all those who simply must see this as an official dirty tricks racist slur by the Clinton campaign speaking through a surrogate then I think we must accept as ObaTruth the statements, when?, last week by that Austin TX Obama surrogate who was sadly unable to name an Obama accomplishment.
Both campaigns have surrogates who whatever their virtues are not ready for prime time.
Surely she meant to say that she saw no problem with Obama wearing the clothes of his heritage, a reference to Obama's Kenyan father. Yes Obama's father was not Somali but the photo was taken in Kenya and honestly, notwithstanding ROOTS, to 99.9% of Americans, Somalia, Kenya, really its all the same confusion.
I do know that Obama's constant playing of the race card has long ago become extremely tiresome.
And I have yet to hear a progressive's rational defense of Obama's decision that "fairy tale" is a racist slur.
That was the opening charge in Obama's race war, it was first made by Donna Brazile his surrogate, and was then embraced by Obama's campaign.
So, let's hear a rational excuse please. And if they can't provide one then perhaps some HRC critics should rethink the mindless meme of the Clinton race wars and who brung 'em on.
Oh my god people, who cares!
Obama is winning. That's not going to be jeopardized by a silly photo... so relax all.
I wonder how much Rep. Tubbs-Jones paid Aaron McGruder in licensing fees in order play Uncle Ruckus on live TV?
My apologies for the repeat posting. Twice the connection timed out and then when it took whoosh, multiples!. Mea Culpa.
I wonder how much Rep. Tubbs-Jones paid Aaron McGruder in licensing fees in order play Uncle Ruckus on live TV?
The latest Muslim flap will be that investigations into where Obama got money for his mansion was not through his Syrian sugur daddy Rezko but through a Sunni Iraqi billionaire now under investigation for other "loans" to US political fundraisers that gave Rezko 3.5 million dollars that a part of which went for Rezko's wife and Obama to purchase the property.
The billionaire, a former friend and well-placed Ba'athist minister of Saddam's before the two had a falling out is Nadhmi Auchi. He is in the top 20 richest men in the UK and is involved with several of (Tony Rezko's) business ventures and the two frequently tour the ME together. From the Obama loan and many others, Rezko owed the Iraqi's shell company a total of 27.4 million dollars, though all loans are supposed to be forgiven for Auchi's later consideration in future Rezko real estate projects.
Obama has no memory of ever meeting Auchi.
JaimieT just apologized for something that wasn't his/her fault. Is (s)he a Democratic Senator?
I'm starting to think Obama is not as smart as everyone thinks he is.
1) Why would he let himself be photographed wearing the same garb that Osama bin Laden wears in that famous file footage? Not smart.
2) As Rush Limbaugh's African American call screener just pointed out, why whine when the photo gets released? The smarter tack would have been to say, that dressing in local garb is what world leaders do when they visit other countries, and note that Bill and Hillary have done the same thing on occasion.
JaimieT just apologized for something that wasn't his/her fault. Is (s)he a Democratic Senator?
Having a sense of shame disqualifies him/her from that post.
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Fred, we all know that your crowd listens to Rush all day and then reguritates whatever talking points you're fed onto your online forums of choice, but could you at least have enough dignity not to be OBVIOUS about it?
I called the phone numbers provided by Rebecca (thanks!) and I was given the number of Tubbs-Jones' campaign office: (216) 751-9022.
I started by saying I saw the congresswoman on Morning Joe -- and the receptionist said "Oh good!" I politely told her that the appearance was really bad -- that she implied that Senator Obama was a native of Somalia. The receptionist seemed surprised to say the least. They are obviously not prepared to deal with this "gaffe" just yet.
fred,
i think #1 explains #2. i mean, if wearing the garb is no big deal, then why was it "not smart" for him to allow the photograph to be taken?
and you're wrong to say that the garb was the same as what bin laden wore. there's a pretty big difference between somali garb and afghan garb (the turbans are completely different, as are the rest of the outfit). then again, most americans may not be able to tell the difference. which is why obama hit back so hard when the photos started circulating around.
"1) Why would he let himself be photographed wearing the same garb that Osama bin Laden wears in that famous file footage? Not smart."
Hitler was know to wear shirts, neckties, jackets, and trousers. What was that idiot Roosevelt thinking when he would wear the same clothes in public?
I would expect nothing less from the Clinton News Network than a thinly veiled (if at all) smear of HRC's opponent.
Brillant KXB... Thank you for showing the stupidity of Fred's comment..
I would expect nothing less from the Clinton News Network than a thinly veiled (if at all) smear of HRC's opponent.
He must a native american to be president.
I would expect nothing less from the Clinton News Network than a thinly veiled (if at all) smear of HRC's opponent.
Tyro,
"Fred, we all know that your crowd listens to Rush all day and then reguritates whatever talking points you're fed onto your online forums of choice, but could you at least have enough dignity not to be OBVIOUS about it?"
The reason I attributed the second point to Rush was that it was his point (articulated by his call screener), and it was a good one. Credit where credit is due. Just like when I mentioned points made by Christopher Caldwell, Holman Jenkins, James Altucher, etc., in recent days I did so to acknowledge that these were their opinions, with which I happened to agree. When I don't specifically mention a pundit in a comment, you can safely assume that the comment I make is my own. That's what most honest commenters who think critically do, wherever they may stand on the political spectrum. You ought to try it sometime, instead of resorting to puerile taunts like you did above. How old are you?
OH Tubbs as Uncle Ruckus, that's perfect. If you call the fine Congresswoman Ruckus, make sure you say that (in the most polite way).
Tubbs (who was basically given her seat) will not win reelection. She has embarrassed herself, and her community.
JaimieT just apologized for something that wasn't his/her fault. Is (s)he a Democratic Senator?
"Having a sense of shame disqualifies him/her from that post."
And sunsin gets the win!
If this were an isolated incident, the smart move would obviously be to downplay it. It is not isolated.
As everyone who follows politics knows, however, the picture and Tubbs' comments are part and parcel of a long-running right wing attack on Obama's religious and political identity--an attempt to falsely paint Obama as an anti-American Muslim. The Clinton campaign has now apparently signed onto that scurrilous and false project. For Obama to ignore or downplay such a profound attack on his character would be idiotic and Kerry-esque (with due respect to the expertise of the call screener).
Luckily, Obama is a better politician than Limbaugh's show wants him to be.
They've stopped answering the phone at the campaign office, call goes straight to voice mail.
Left a message.
1) Why would he let himself be photographed wearing the same garb that Osama bin Laden wears in that famous file footage? Not smart."
Hitler was know to wear shirts, neckties, jackets, and trousers. What was that idiot Roosevelt thinking when he would wear the same clothes in public?
Posted by KXB
Quite a difference between Hitler in normal transnational suit&tie business gear and dressing up like a Muslim Somali Warlord - with attire quite different than what any Kenyan non-Muslim would wear.
The equivalent would be FDR campaigning dressed up in lederhosen, jackboots and sporting a Luger 9mm and a Yaegermeister cap, or Hitler touring his SS troops dressed up in cowboy hat & boots, wearing blue jeans.
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Brillant KXB... Thank you for showing the stupidity of Fred's comment..
Posted by Ann
Pungent analysis, but for the fact that Fred is correct and Ann and KXB are the stupid ones.
Southpaw,
Unless you think Hillary has joined the vast-right-wing-conspiracy, there has not yet been any sort of sustained Republican attack on Obama.
They have been too busy tearing each other to shreds in the primary to focus on the Deomcrats, and for most of the past year, Hillary has been their presumed opponent.
The whole "Obama is a muslim" thing is a disgusting bit of gutter politics, but it has not recieved encouragement from the Right's heavy hitters. (Even Rush is only mocking Obama's response. As Fred points out, Rush has treated the accusation itself as obvious nonsense)
I personally won't mind when all the people of the Chris Ford mindset vote against Obama and still lose.
And then, I hope Obama comes to the inauguration in a black leather jacket, black beret, black sunglasses, and a keffiyeh with a rifle strapped to his shoulder and insists on swearing in using the Koran and Up from Slavery while strongly holding the black power sign.
Because then all these pinheads around the country would just die of heart attacks and we'd be rid of them.
The smarter tack would have been to say, that dressing in local garb is what world leaders do when they visit other countries, and note that Bill and Hillary have done the same thing on occasion.
Posted by Fred | February 26, 2008 1:01 PM
Which is why that is exactly what he said. That's the clip from Obama they broadcasted on the morning radio. I donno what you're listening to Fred, probably conservative colored lenses radio.
and Northern Observer proves my point about Fred exactly.
I should note that I look ridiculous in my own ethnic group's traditional garb. I would suggest that other politicians who aren't even members of that particularly group/tribe not dress up in such garb, especially when cameras around. This is just as true for foreign tribes as it is for construction workers and clean-room operators.
Matthew Struhar
Don't be so sure. John Lewis' pro Clinton stance has already spawned a young primary challenger. He won't be alone.
At least that's my bet.
"It's ridiculous, and Congresswoman Tubbs Jones needs to hear it:
District Office (Shaker Heights, OH): (216) 522-4900
DC Office: (202) 225-7032"
right you are:
"hi i would like to remind congress woman tubbs that somalis are not eligible to run for the presidency, and Hawaii is very much one of the United States"
"I think she knows, I'll pass it along. thanks"
click
"Quite a difference between Hitler in normal transnational suit&tie business gear and dressing up like a Muslim Somali Warlord - with attire quite different than what any Kenyan non-Muslim would wear.
The equivalent would be FDR campaigning dressed up in lederhosen, jackboots and sporting a Luger 9mm and a Yaegermeister cap, or Hitler touring his SS troops dressed up in cowboy hat & boots, wearing blue jeans."
That makes sense if FDR is relaxing in the hot springs of Germany, or Hitler was paying a visit to the Wermacht garrison in Ft. Worth. But, since Obama was in a Somali enclave in Kenya - your example is quite the square peg in the round hole. When my white relatives visit my Indian relatives in Calcutta, they dress up in Indian clothing. when they get back state-side, the Indian clothes go back into the foot-locker.
Here's another - Saddam Hussein was the most westernized of the Arab despots, and often wore jackets and ties, unless he visited rural Iraq, when he donned the local garb. So, since Bush and Hussein have the same fondness for the button-down look, what can we learn about Bush's loyalties?
In the photo, he actually WAS wearing the clothes of his country. Khakis and a polo shirt IS quintessential American casual.
The main problem with Obama in Muslim-gear is that he has other Muslim "issues" emerging and is hypersensitive about it.
Otherwise, he would join a long procession of politicians and celebrities caught in the wrong attire or doing hypocritical things.
Just a little admission - "Whoops, I probably shouldn't have dressed up as a Muslim Warlord from Somalia!" might have been enough or to laugh it off and say he dressed sillier at Harvard Law.
I mean, what else can you do if you are Bush and they photo you holding hands with a Saudi Oil Prince, tip-toeing through the Bluebonnets?
Or Hillary dealing with a picture of her big fat ass?
Obama's people are hypersensitive in a way that John Forbes Kerry was about photos capturing his snooty ways. Not a good thing, and a defensiveness others that resent his huge ego and quest for power without paying any dues or having any executive experience will happily exploit.
"without paying any dues or having any executive experience will happily exploit."
Right, better to have your daddy open doors for you after you drank away your 20's and 30's. Not many candidates have that kind of valuable experience.
Proving only that African-Americans are as ignorant as white one when it comes to understanding international geography.
To be fair, Obama was also wearing a polo shirt and khakis, the native garb of his tribe of Ivy League-educated attorneys.Posted by Gabriel | February 26, 2008 11:35 AM
My vote for best comment to Gabriel! Where's your blog, Gabe? Cause gawd, I am so sick of this shit already, and there's so much more coming with all the stuff he has written in his books and 8 months to go...boy oh boy...probably sometime in June, we will end up being subjected to week of "Obama's father a polygamist" related stories and coverage...I saw Kristof already touched on the topic the other day...maybe HBO will do "Big Love" reruns to catch part of the audience....
one thing you have to say for Clinton, the argument that she's already a 100% known quantity is attractive...
Just a little admission - "Whoops, I probably shouldn't have dressed up as a Muslim Warlord from Somalia!" might have been enough or to laugh it off and say he dressed sillier at Harvard Law.
Like that would have made a difference to chris ford.
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To whom it may concern:
I would like to know more about Obama's connections with radical groups and Islamic leaders. His church in Chicago supports Louis Farrakhan. Louis Farrakhan has held a rally for Obama in Chicago. That is enough to scare anyone.
This message is not to smear Obama but I am genuinely frieghtened of his ties to criminal and to any Islamic Group.
Are Americans not hearing this. Americans trained Islamic Muslims to bomb the World Trade Centers. 9/11 should be a wake up call to all of us.
Bringing facts about Obamas's ties to any radical group should take center stage for any American.
We need to know a lot more about this man. I think it is only fair to know about ALL candidates and their connections with radical groups...Hillary and McCain also.
Thanks.
To whom it may concern:
I would like to know more about Obama's connections with radical groups and Islamic leaders. His church in Chicago supports Louis Farrakhan. Louis Farrakhan has held a rally for Obama in Chicago. That is enough to scare anyone.
This message is not to smear Obama but I am genuinely frieghtened of his ties to criminal and to any Islamic Group.
Are Americans not hearing this. Americans trained Islamic Muslims to bomb the World Trade Centers. 9/11 should be a wake up call to all of us.
Bringing facts about Obamas's ties to any radical group should take center stage for any American.
We need to know a lot more about this man. I think it is only fair to know about ALL candidates and their connections with radical groups...Hillary and McCain also.
Thanks.
To whom it may concern:
I would like to know more about Obama's connections with radical groups and Islamic leaders. His church in Chicago supports Louis Farrakhan. Louis Farrakhan has held a rally for Obama in Chicago. That is enough to scare anyone.
This message is not to smear Obama but I am genuinely frieghtened of his ties to criminal and to any Islamic Group.
Are Americans not hearing this. Americans trained Islamic Muslims to bomb the World Trade Centers. 9/11 should be a wake up call to all of us.
Bringing facts about Obamas's ties to any radical group should take center stage for any American.
We need to know a lot more about this man. I think it is only fair to know about ALL candidates and their connections with radical groups...Hillary and McCain also.
Thanks.
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Heads in the Sand
...and, of course, doesn't get called on it.
Posted by goethean | February 26, 2008 11:06 AM