Hillary Clinton, as I would have expected, says she has no comment on her governor's hooker problem.
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10 Mar 2008 06:44 pm
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It'll be pretty relevant once he resigns
I can't see how this is a big deal for Spitzer. I mean, he's already prostituted himself to Clinton.
Seems like the right response. I'd imagine Obama's will be similar.
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
In his defense - and by proxy - Hillary's defense, as a superdelegate, one woman alone cannot satisfy him.
As usual, MattY is behind the times. She removed him from her list of endorsers, but traces - as of now - remain.
Isn't this article just a bit too tabloid-esque for the New York Times? The paper just gets worse and worse with each passing day.
I agree with right. There's nothing productive she or Obama could say about this.
Glass Houses. Stones, casting of.
"Hillary Clinton, as I would have expected, says she has no comment on her governor's hooker problem."
Guess Team Obama truly is like Ken Starr after all...
Hooker problem, Matt? There are only two kinds of hooker problems. Not being able to afford them, or if they keep turning up dead in yer apartment.
Spitzer has a morality problem.
Guess Team Obama truly is like Ken Starr after all...
Yeah, if Ken Starr was able to keep the law and his marriage vows simultaneously.
Hillary Clinton, as I would have expected, says she has no comment on her governor's hooker problem.
And then she walked off to the Marine One helicopter together with Spitzer, each of them holding one of Chelsea's hands.
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Unrelated, but worthy of looking into tomorrow:
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida
By Warren P. Strobel | McClatchy Newspapers | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008WASHINGTON — An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.
The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, U.S. officials told McClatchy. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.
The new study of the Iraqi regime's archives found no documents indicating a "direct operational link" between Hussein's Iraq and al Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report.
He and others spoke to McClatchy on condition of anonymity because the study isn't due to be shared with Congress and released before Wednesday...
...The new study, entitled "Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents", was essentially completed last year and has been undergoing what one U.S. intelligence official described as a "painful" declassification review.
It was produced by a federally-funded think tank, the Institute for Defense Analyses, under contract to the Norfolk, Va.-based U.S. Joint Forces Command.
Spokesmen for the Joint Forces Command declined to comment until the report is released. One of the report's authors, Kevin Woods, also declined to comment...
...While the documents reveal no Saddam-al Qaida links, they do show that Saddam and his underlings were willing to use terrorism against enemies of the regime and had ties to regional and global terrorist groups, the officials said.
However, the U.S. intelligence official, who's read the full report, played down the prospect of any major new revelations, saying, "I don't think there's any surprises there."...
There's nothing productive she or Obama could say about this.
I'm not sure that's true. "My husband, President Clinton, has never had to pay for it, so that won't happen if you elect me to the White House."
"I'm not sure that's true. "My husband, President Clinton, has never had to pay for it, so that won't happen if you elect me to the White House."
My effort: "My husband, President Clinton, had affairs with women who looked like average Americans. If you elect me to the White House, we won't be encouraging bulimia and plastic surgery."
SomeCallMeTim:
That's not funny and you should be ashamed of yourself.
"That's not funny and you should be ashamed of yourself."
It was kinda funny...
It's so deliciously ironic to here Tim K say that someone else should be ashamed.
It was kinda funny, actually. But in the interests of fairness, I call on SCMT to denounce, reject, defy, and repudiate his comments.
*hear.
But seriously, SCMT, it's got to be easier if you have a full head of hair and the oval office to work with.
Yeah. Bill's lucky. He would've had to pay extra for that cigar trick. And besides, Spitzer may be bald as an eagle, but his body is past Sarkozy-rific and nearly Putin-esque. He probably just paid for hookers to help "stimulate" the depressed DC economy.
Tim,
It wasn't that funny, no. But your reaction was hilarious.
Hillary Clinton, as I would have expected, says she has no comment on her governor's hooker problem."
Guess Team Obama truly is like Ken Starr after all...
Posted by Petey | March 10, 2008 7:15 PM
So Petey sinks to yet another level. I thought it was bad enough that he disgraced his advocacy of Edwards by becoming as dishonest and cowardly as the Clintons, but this casual use of insulting and unDemocratic languages marks a new depth to his shamelessness. I don't think that the person posting as Petey can be the original, but if it is, I am amazed that you, who used to be a strong voice for Edwards, would so debase yourself. Do you understand just how much damage you have done to your credibility, and to those of us who believed in Edwards?
Well, there's a first, a sanctimonious Tim K, who, for once, I somewhat agree with. I doubt it will last. 2-1 he goes back to the tried old Clinton spin within the hour.
More than 2 dozen comments and still no double entendres using the name Spitzer.
"My husband, President Clinton, had affairs with women who looked like average Americans. If you elect me to the White House, we won't be encouraging bulimia and plastic surgery."
I like the effort at the common touch. Taking my cue from that line of thought: "Many politicians claim to represent average Americans, but few could walk in their shoes. Elliot Spitzer built a reputation as a populist, then turned around and hired a $5500/hr prostitute. My husband has never paid more for sex than the cost of a book of poetry."
"More than 2 dozen comments and still no double entendres using the name Spitzer."
Not even a Simpsons reference to Mayor Quimby's defense of "Er, ah, I was just, er, polling the electorate."
I imagine we are all taking odds on Petey versus Tim K for the first Spitzer pun. Unless Robert Ethan deigns to slither in first.
I take it Mayor Quimby had a double-pronged initiative?
SomeCallMeTim:
That's not funny and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Mr. Stick-in-the-ass strikes again!!
Tim, I bet you're a real laugh riot at birthday parties and Bar Mitzvahs. In a John Wayne Gacy, sad clown, kind of way.
Well I'm very happy to amuse everyone.
If nobody else is going to call people on their hateful comments, then I will.
When's it is the other way it always gets responded to.
Tim, I bet you're a real laugh riot at birthday parties and Bar Mitzvahs. In a John Wayne Gacy, sad clown, kind of way.
Posted by igloo | March 10, 2008 8:41 PM
With friends like igloo....
Tim K,
You're not client #8 are you?
You must be into masochism to keep coming back here.
Call me excessively sceptical, James, but I suspect that it's because Tim K can't afford to be client #8 that he comes here to be ridiculed. Instant gratification for free - the happy path for the impoverished masochist....
Two posts in a row kicking up Spitzer dirt onto HRC. This is truly pathetic, really dude. Do you think you have a shot at getting a job under an Obama administration? Did your girlfriend/boyfriend cheat on you with Bill Clinton? Where does all this hatred come from?
You're such a loser dude. Go chug some corn syrup or something.
Two posts in a row kicking up Spitzer dirt onto HRC. This is truly pathetic, really dude. Do you think you have a shot at getting a job under an Obama administration? Did your girlfriend/boyfriend cheat on you with Bill Clinton? Where does all this hatred come from?
You're such a loser dude. Go chug some corn syrup or something.
Posted by Israel | March 10, 2008 9:08 PM
Israel, had you considered a Remedial Writing course? What you wrote resembles English, but is totally incomprehensible.
Israel,
You figured it out.
His girlfriend cheated on him.
With Hillary.
This is what happens when one goes with a person with rumors of scandal, someone who is ruthless, and someone who is universally disliked. Gee..that sounds like Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton is a political time bomb waiting to happen...I mean we haven't even seen her tax returns for the last 7 years. And then there's Bill...
The potential for a Clinton scandal is too great and alone should disqualify Hillary for the nomination.
POW! Tim K, ladies and gentlemen!
Dear Senator Clinton,
Me and the girls at Emperor are all so happy and proud to have a real woman running for President. Did you like our little $35 million present last month? Norman is handling redistribution, while Eliot is our very special liaison.
girlpower!
Kri*ten
What if the "unsafe" activities didn't refer to what everyone thinks, but something else? In that case, I guess we'd have to call him Spritzler.
Hillary took him off her website (or tried to); Bill's badgering him for the john's number.
New York's most famous politicians are disgracing themselves at an alarming rate. Giuliani, Spitzer . . . I wonder who will be next?
New York's most famous politicians are disgracing themselves at an alarming rate. Giuliani, Spitzer . . . I wonder who will be next?
Posted by blah | March 10, 2008 9:35 PM
Chuck Schumer? and who's the junior Senator? Can't quite recall.. anyone care to help me out?
"Israel, had you considered a Remedial Writing course?"
No irony here.
As an aside, where the fuck was Mickey Kaus on this?
A Democratic politician with a "soft on immigrants" stance caught up in a tawdry sex scandal . . . he should've been on this like a tabby on catnip.
Maybe I'm out of step with my "progressive" friends, but I really don't give a tinker's damn if Spitzer wants to spend his money on hookers.
I don't see why the Justice Department cares either.
Similarities between Spitzer and Hillary:
Unlikable
Dogged by rumors of scandal
Arrogant
Self Righteous
Achieved office only through the power of the political machinery; never really liked by the people
What Hillary and Spitzer do not have in common:
Hillary has a spouse that is as equally prone to scandal as she is; it's 2 for 1.
As an aside, where the fuck was Mickey Kaus on this?
A Democratic politician with a "soft on immigrants" stance caught up in a tawdry sex scandal . . . he should've been on this like a tabby on catnip.
Posted by southpaw | March 10, 2008 9:38 PM
Maybe he was client #8? Free Kaus! Save our voyeurs! Legalize prostitution for telecoms retrospectively.
Maybe I'm out of step with my "progressive" friends, but I really don't give a tinker's damn if Spitzer wants to spend his money on hookers.
To the extent people have a problem with it, it's a question of equal application of the law. I think.
Of course, people treating Clinton's infidelities as a source of humor saved his Presidency (consider the likely alternatives).
"Similarities between Spitzer and Hillary:
Unlikable
Dogged by rumors of scandal
Arrogant
Self Righteous
Achieved office only through the power of the political machinery; never really liked by the people"
I don't know where you're coming from, but I lived in NYC when Spitzer was elected and found him to be generally very respected - way beyond the enthusiasm that people had for most politicians. AS AG he was going against corruption that was being ignored by the Federal government. I'm sure that he isn't loved on Wall St, and know that NYC isn't representative of the state as a whole. However, he is by no means without popular support. Or at least was, before the whole whoremonger thing became public.
In the scheme of things, "southpaw" is less than insignificant, but, because I'm here already, can anyone see where he tried to mislead in the following?
A Democratic politician with a "soft on immigrants" stance caught up in a tawdry sex scandal . . . he should've been on this like a tabby on catnip.
(For MattY's sake, I helpfully bolded it above.)
Could there be a lot more to this story.
Where does a pulic servant get tens of thousands of dollars for that kind of service? Is he independely wealthy? Most Joes in his position are value shoppers and go for the $20 blow job.
His defense should of been that he thought it was for a hair cut (poor John)
Billary could of explained that young interns are free.
Israel:
Is Yiddish your first language? Step away from the pseudo skateboarder vernacular and back away slowly...
You are not ironic. You are a moron.
This is one more reminder of how we cannot roll the dice with Hillary. Where are those tax returns?
What about all the scandals in waiting? We know Bill has been busy these last 7 years. We know both Hillary and Bill have a weakness for money, no matter where it comes from.
Hillary is a scandal waiting to explode. Again, just in those tax returns alone: what does she have to hide?
Tom, go easy there. Many morons would be embarrassed to be associated with Israel the Ironist.
In the scheme of things, "southpaw" is less than insignificant, but, because I'm here already, can anyone see where he tried to mislead in the following?A Democratic politician with a "soft on immigrants" stance caught up in a tawdry sex scandal . . . he should've been on this like a tabby on catnip.
My significance aside, there's a reason that phrase is in scare quotes. My disagreement on this issue might have been apparent from the fact that I was mocking Mickey Kaus.
I suppose I have to spell it out for my betters though: I find Kaus's approach to the immigration issue disgusting. I find his sniffing around for Democratic scandals where none exist disgusting. I disagree with him strongly, and mock him for his repulsive approach to these matters.
Israel:
Is Yiddish your first language? Step away from the pseudo skateboarder vernacular and back away slowly...
You are not ironic. You are a moron.
Posted by Tom | March 10, 2008 10:24 PM
Were you always this big a dork? You strike me as the type of guy who laughs at his own jokes.
Kaus: "Just asking: If the superdelegates all voted with the winner of their state, would Hillary get the nomination? I think maybe. That would be one way she might colorably claim a superdelegate decision in her favor would vindicate democracy.."
Anyone else notice Kaus getting those lovely big crayons out? "Colorably" indeed! What happened to the English language when a public piece of writing could demonstrate such hapless ignorance? Or does Kaus (unsurprisingly) not know the word "credibly"?
"Colorably" is a legal term, and Kaus went to law school.
Mickey Kaus = Matt Drudge, but without the ethics, wit and charm.
According to DailyKos a few days back, no, even if the SD voted in favor of their states, she's still behind.
As I read here recently, some GOP assclowns have a list of young girls Bill has been with over the past decade, ready to be released the day she gets the nomination.
So, have you all forgotten the US attorney firings scandal? Pretty much everyone who survived did so because they agreed to play ball with politically motivated prosecutions.
I'm not sympathetic toward Spitzer, but this story is kind of weird. The feds don't normally prosecute for prostitution. And did you notice the Ken Starr style leaks of the juiciest parts of the wiretapped conversations?
It's a political hit. Of course, Spitzer was stupid to consort with high-priced prostitutes, but his enemies saw a chance to take him out. He crusaded against Wall Street and the banks, so his bank ratted him out to the IRS for suspicious transactions.
Colorably may be legal jargon, but there's no reason to use it here, since the matter is not under legal review, and, in any case "vindicating" democracy is done in the eyes of voters, not lawcourts. Sorry, Dave, but Kaus is being either laugably pretentious or lazy in his usage here. "Credibly" is what he needs, as the original commentator pointed out.
THE BIG NEWS...
...Drudge has Eliot soon to resign. Damn happy news...
...New Yorker has Condi as McCain's VP. Damn happy news...
So, what did Number 9 do that was considered "unsafe" by the prostitutes? (condomless, annal, too rough?) And why was Number 9 considered difficult?
Yipes! Even if he could survive the hypocrisy, he may not be able to get past the details showing him as too sexually creepy.
I imagine Drudge will be offering penetrating analysis...
Of course, people treating Clinton's infidelities as a source of humor saved his Presidency (consider the likely alternatives).
President Gore?
It's strange how hindsight makes me remember him as always a bit creepy.
Also, isn't it nice to have a scandal without a "gate" attached to it? Although it's a matter of time before someone comes up with a "9th gate" (or have they already?)
Acela-gate?
-Condi as VP? That would be wonderful. If only the general public knew the depth of this administration's corruption.
-ProstiGate?
I love it. I love it when politicians burn. I love it. Get rid of all incubments. Term limits by scandals. I love it.
NYT today:
"The booker responds that he, in an apparent reference to Client 9, sometimes asks the women “to do things that, like, you might not think were safe."
The Eliot guy was one sick, sick, sick man. He is a Democrat.
I love it. I love it when GOP burn. I love it when Democrats burn. I just love when any politician burns.
The only reason Hillary hasn't been definitively linked with Huma Abedin is because the AIPAC crowd can't afford to let that happen. After all, if Huma is indeed a Mossad "swallow" - and that is just too perfect not to be true - it would be a MAJOR problem for Israel if that gets revealed.
But somebody is spreading the rumor internationally. It's been in Russian and UK papers.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that Russian intelligence knows for sure - and Putin might be happy to release details if the US keeps getting in his face over Eastern Europe and Iran.
I usually love this blog, but this post was lame and the comments herein are lame. Stick to the issues please.
Stick to the issues please.
Which issues would those be? The ones where Clinton brokered peace in Ireland, or the ones where Obama has it easy 'cause he's black?
I've been waiting for an opportunity to do this all day...
SINNNNNNBAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!
Justinb,
I'm an Obama fan (as you can easily verify by looking at my past comments). But for a guy who's decried the empty, horseracy character of MSM political coverage, this post and the previous post were awfully silly.
I worry that the blog might continue to look like this as long as two Dem candidates are still in the race and petty feuding carries the day.
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You strike me as the type of guy who laughs at his own jokes.
Only when they're funny. Laughing at a yutz like you though is more enjoyable.
"I usually love this blog, but this post was lame and the comments herein are lame. Stick to the issues please."
Well, when Matthew decides to slash and burn the choice of Democratic voters, it shouldn't be a surprise when commenters who like slashing and burning the Democratic Party feel welcome.
Petey,
Obama is ahead on delegates and the popular vote. Not by a huge amount, but ahead nonetheless.
How is HRC the choice of Democratic voters?
Or is it pointless to actually ask something serious?
Petey, does anyone call you sweety?
Petey_UHC:
Well, when Matthew decides to slash and burn the choice of Democratic voters, it shouldn't be a surprise when commenters who like slashing and burning the Democratic Party feel welcome.
By the rules the Democratic Party set up, Obama is well ahead in the delegate count and we're just waiting on the Superdelegates to make up their minds. Will the hypocritcal Spitzer's superdelegate vote for Hillary count? Probably. If the situation was reversed, Obama probably would have dropped out for the good of the Democratic party. But not Hillary, she's hoping for a miracle.
The best news I've heard since Obama won Texas was his proclamation that he will not seek the VP spot. Keep hope alive!
Spitzer just reminds me of Larry Craig. Both publicly campaigned against vices they privately enjoyed.
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I'll comment:
Its disgusting, but irrelevant to her campaign.
Posted by Kuros | March 10, 2008 6:49 PM