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Success in Falluja

25 Mar 2008 12:41 pm

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Sudarsan Raghavan did a great piece looking at American success in Fallujah in yesterday's Washington Post. As he lays it out, the successes are very real -- the city was once held by the insurgency, and now it's basically under control. Specifically, it's under the control of Col. Faisal Ismail al-Zobaie who served in the Republican Guard, then served as a commander in the insurgency, and then got fed up with AQI's antics, and now serves, with American approval, as police chief of Fallujah.

He still doesn't like Americans, still doesn't like the Shiite government of Iraq, and still doesn't like democracy. But he is happy to take American weapons and money and to cooperate with the American military. It's not clear if his cooperation would continue if we asked him to cooperate by, say, running the town along liberal principles or submitting to the authority of the central government, but the local troops are trying to get along and he's willing to get along. And so there you have your success. It's real enough. It's also obviously not what we invaded Iraq to accomplish (after all, the Republican Guard was running the country already before we invaded) and it's not at all clear where it leads you.

If we leave, it seems to me that Colonel Zobaie will either govern wisely, or else he won't. He may use a reasonable mix of firmness and good government to maintain control over his town, or he might screw up and tip things back to the insurgency. He may reach a reasonable accommodation with the central government or else he might not. And if we stay, all those same factors stay true.

U.S. Air Force Photo by Staff Sgt. Samuel Bendet

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Per the article, Fallujah under Zobaie's boot-heel is a success only by comparison with the failed-state level of disorder that seems to be prevalent in much/most of Iraq. Because he's a real SOB, imprisoning people at a whim, beating confessions out of people using metal rods.

He's basically a mini-Saddam. The fact that he's an improvement over the status quo just demonstrates how completely we've made a complete botched-up mess of Iraq.

Like you say, it's not clear what we get from a Zobaie, where this takes us in terms of a resolution that allows us to eventually exit without things falling apart. But yeah, a Zobaie is better than civil disorder. Which was what I said about Saddam before we invaded.

Hey, we got fooled again!

Meet the news boss... same as the old boss.


And if we stay, all those same factors stay true.

But not with the same probability, of course.

This guy sounds perfect for our new puppet president. I hope the Iranians don't object. Or Sadr. Or the PKK. Or Blackwater.

Of course, this just proves the surge is working! As Mickey Kaus would say 'sure, it's not the success we originally planned but how can you America hating liberals deny that this is an improvement over the chaos of last year?'

Matt, you should consider writing a book about stuff like this.

Matt, you should consider writing a book about stuff like this.

Al:

But not with the same probability, of course.

Now THAT'S a rallying cry!

"American People! We must spend trillions more dollars of your money and thousands more lives of your children in order to increase the likelihood that portions of Iraq can be maintained in the same circumstances as when Saddam was in charge!"

I just hope the Republican party follows Al's lead and binds itself tightly to what's sure to be an extremely popular political program.

But not with the same probability, of course.

So then the question becomes, what needs to change in order for the U.S. to begin withdrawling troops with confidence?

If we leave, it seems to me that Colonel Zobaie will either govern wisely, or else he won't.

Well, that is a bit simplistic. I read the piece too and it is pretty clear that his authority to govern was solely given to him by the Americans. The Iraqi's who were interviewed were critical of his style, but also thankful of the results.

I think the question more should be, once the Americans leave and he is solely accountable to Iraqi's, what will happen next?

The presence of Americans on the ground selecting the leaders of Iraq instead of the Iraqi's themselves in many instaces and the presence of Americans at all changes entirely the accountability equation in Iraq.

To achieve the a Fulluja-like "success" in Iraq we would have to kill 1/5th of the men, deport the entire country, then slowly let them back in leaving half the remaining young men out.

Reaching back through the mists of time, this reminds me of the situation at the end of Fire In The Lake, or the Hue-Da Nang segment of The Great Railway Bazaar, but without the NVA. If we left, the world was going to fall apart. So, we were just going to keep plugging along, war without end, amen.

I posted on my blog about the unraveling of the surge on my blog:
http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad.com

Excerpt:
Never having had a comprehensive, result based strategy for Iraq makes "victory" impossible to define, but these developments certainly illustrate what defeat looks like. The real tragedy is the same group who masterminded this fiasco will now scurry around to latch onto some other strategy that lacks a focus and goal and work like hell to sell it to the American people.

Dancin with the Devil isn't cool. I noticed the calm aloof narration of this piece. It reflects on the authors military frame of mind. I once had that same mindset when I was in Vietnam. Over the years I have come to a different and I feel a better place. I only have one question for SGT Bendet. Was putting a petty warlord in charge in falluja worth the cost in lives? To me this story is horrific. All those souls lost, Families torn asunder for what?

President Bush defined victory in Iraq in November 2005:

Short term, Iraq is making steady progress in fighting terrorists, meeting political milestones, building democratic institutions, and standing up security forces.

Medium term, Iraq is in the lead defeating terrorists and providing its own security, with a fully constitutional government in place, and on its way to achieving its economic potential.

Longer term, Iraq is peaceful, united, stable, and secure, well integrated into the international community, and a full partner in the global war on terrorism.

Great picture - I'm glad to see that the Americans can take their haram dog for a walk in an Iraqi city and not get attacked for 1/1000th of a second. Proof that Al-Qaeda has indeed been routed?

Where's Powell?

This is PROOF that "teh Surge" is the greatest thing since sliced bread and demonstrates that three trillion dollars, one million dead (oh, wait, a QUARTER of that!), four million displaced (oh, wait, he NEVER mentions those!), 4,000 dead troops (they would have died anyway in helicopter accidents at Fort Rucker, Alabama), and 50,000 crippled, and a hundred thousand PTSD cases - it's ALL WORTH IT FOR OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AND PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST!

And besides, the sanctions we put in place killed a million people - so we had to kill a (quarter of a) million more to stop that!

And it was ALL LEGAL! Lord Buttface in England said so (after Blair threatened to beat his ass).

Fallujah is SAFE! (At least if you're a Sunni...and a Saddam supporter...)

So where IS that fucking asshole?

Thanks for the splendid introduction, Hack. In spite of making a hash of describing the relevant facts, you are making progress in at least roughly identifying what some of them are.

In my view it's not a matter of any particular US interest whether Iraq is a unified state with a strong central government; a loose federal structure with lots of local autonomy (especially in security matters); or several smaller states of roughly homogenous ethnic or sectarian composition. If people like Colonel Zobaie are willing and able to move relatively peacefully towards a stable arrangement in any form that leaves Iraq at peace, reasonably pro-Western, and pumping oil, everybody wins.


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