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A Great Cause

19 Apr 2008 04:09 pm

Gene Healy published this post on John McCain's fetishization of the idea of serving great causes a while ago, but I really like this one parenthetical joke:

McCain’s sometime ideological guru and op-ed page cheerleader, David Brooks, expresses similar themes in his writings. Even in Bobos in Paradise, Brooks’s foray into “comic sociology,” he warns darkly of “the temptations that accompany affluence.” “The fear is that America will decline not because it overstretches, but because it enervates as its leading citizens decide that the pleasures of an oversized kitchen are more satisfying than the conflicts and challenges of patriotic service.” (As a young man, Brooks served abroad with the Wall Street Journal Europe.)

This is a theme with a substantial lineage including, notably, important affinities with a lot of Theodore Roosevelt's thinking. I have a piece forthcoming about McCain's foreign policy which notes that one distressing possibility is that he actually believes this stuff and sees war-induced hardship as a benefit rather than a cost when thinking about foreign policy decisions. The President was, I think, getting at a similar idea when he claimed to envy our troops serving on the front lines since he was missing out on on the "exciting" and "romantic" opportunity to experience "great danger."

Normally when you hear this kind of stuff it mostly seems foolish, as when middle aged men such as Brooks or Bush who chose not to serve when they had the chance start musing about the romance of war. Coming from someone with John McCain's background and experiences it has much more credibility (which I think Brooks was and is shrewd enough to understand -- part of his initial late-nineties enthusiasm for McCain is precisely driven by the reality that McCain is one of the few politicians who can say this kind of stuff in a credible way) but also more troubling in some respects. McCain, after all, knows what he's talking about so it seems relatively unlikely that he's going to suddenly realize how perverse this is (the risk is that life will get good, we need policies to ensure a healthy baseline of death and destruction ) and reconsider.

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It's a pity we've never come up for a good pithy term for the idea that it's better to face a lot of problems and overcome them with stoicism, grit, and resourcefulness than not to have such problems in the first place. Well, there was the original "Holbo's Fallacy" suggested in the old TPMCafe "Politics and Aesthetics" post, and Holbo himself chipped in with "the protractive trial lawyers' association." (and their opponents, advocates of "tortive reform") Other than that, though, nothing much comes to mind.

I don't know, it seems historically plausible that societies have been reduced in geopolitical power when it's citizens focus more on the pleasures of life as opposed to I guess, becoming more powerful.

In our history the furor caused by Sputnik springs to mind.

I'd also point out that geopolitical power does not equal a civilization in decline.

but I really like this one parenthetical joke

Is your point that David Brooks is a sad sack whose entire framework for understanding the world is constructed out of "comic books I once knew"? Preach on, but I'm not sure we're the ones who need to hear the message most.

This is going to be a problem in the general. There is going to be a moment in one of the debates where Obama accuses McCain of being too cavalier about launching wars. McCain is going to turn to him and say: "I know more about the hardship of war than you ever could, son. So you can spare me your lectures." After which, the media will call the election off, having decided that McCain just won.

...Obama accuses McCain of being too cavalier about launching wars. McCain is going to turn to him and say: "I know more about the hardship of war than you ever could, son. So you can spare me your lectures."

And if I were Obama, I'd reply, "so, Senator, then clearly it follows that you must be in favor of re-instituting the draft, and even maybe instituting some form of universal compulsory military service--right?"


I don't think Obama will accuse McCain of being too cavalier about starting wars. That would be bad framing. He should say that McCain has shown poor judgment about starting and continuing wars, as evidenced by his cheerleading for the Iraq war and willingness to keep our troops there for 100 years if necessary. It's not about being cavalier or not, it's about making decisions that are in the best interest of the country.

McCain is going to turn to him and say: "I know more about the hardship of war than you ever could, son. So you can spare me your lectures." After which, the media will call the election off, having decided that McCain just won.

Strangely, this strategy didn't work so well for John Kerry in 2004. By the time the debates came around, the public and the media weren't willing to give Kerry the benefit of the doubt on national security assertions.

Which is why Democrats need to shift their emphasis from McCain = Bush to McCain = Confused Flip-Flopper.

Seriously, I don't know how McCain is able to vote for the CIA to continue torturing and then go on Chris Matthews to announce he's against torture.

Neocon John, Neocon John, Neocon John.

Re "Coming from someone with John McCain's background and experiences it [idea of war-induced hardship as a benefit] has much more credibility "
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1) Not necessarily. There's a huge difference between being a naval aviator attacking a country with limited air defences versus someone in the Army or Marines ground combat units under constant stress from the constant threat of ambush, boobytrap or attack.

And a huge difference between that and being someone in a support position in the rear.

2) Which is not intended to dismiss John McCain's service. But the hardship of war -- and the rate of deaths/casualties --varies so greatly between different types of military units --and the different services -- that I'm not sure someone from any one unit can claim that his personal experience speaks for all.

With All due respect to Senator Mccain, I don't believe that he has truly experienced what war is.

The indisputable fact is that he was a fighter pilot and never had to look in the eyes of the people he killed. Not even once did his hands get sullied by the blood of the people he was killing. So it is not surprising to see the senator call for a 100 year occupation(war) of Iraq, or even make the joke, "Bomb Iran! Bomb Bomb, Bomb." To him, like many of the of those who did not have to feel the warm blood of human beings on their hands after cleaning village after village in Nam, think war can be fought on the cheap.

If the right wants a man who has experience war, they need to talk to senator chuck Hagel. He knows what war is all about.

P.S Senator Mccain now supports torture, at least for the CIA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g

John McCain is John Kerry without the scruples.

Matt, I look forward to that article. This fetishism is really just an extention of Brooks' and others' outdated conservatism. It's employed for various effect. For example, McCain is the All American Self Made Man while Obama is the Thankless Other Who Doesn't Appreciate Everything America Has Given Him... because people like Brooks and McCain "earn" while others "get". This construction applies to everything, and Democrats consistently let it. Single parents are either "asking for government handouts" or "proud, hardworking Americans who endure harship with dignity".

I don't know if Obama can overcome that framing, but with McCain dishing it out, he's got a better shot than most. I think "are you insane? are you actually romanticizing the Great Depression?" fits into the Senile Old Man theme quite nicely.

My gramps is always going on about how back in his day no one complained and people could take bad fortune on the chin. Of course, he also wears a diaper and doesn't trust "'Spanics" so... *crazy*

When politicians or anyone start obsessing about having a great nation hide your wallet and hide your sons. The Great Nation ideal is a pile or crap. However it probably will never disappear until corporate governance takes full control.

The call to National greatness is the easiest way for politicians and their partners, say Bill Kristol who blovates on our national fecklessness, to gain power and wealth. It's as simple as that. War is a racket. When your attacked there isn't much choice. When you choose war and do it for self improvement it's a pathology.

I suppose those who take a less liberal view of human nature figure that people have to have a higher motivation than individual rewards. They need a group purpose, ideally one involving a lot of death.. Funny thing is it's those same people who hold individualism as the greatest good of all, for all. Go figure.

It's not about being cavalier or not, it's about making decisions that are in the best interest of the country.

I'm not sure someone from any one unit can claim that his personal experience speaks for all.

I don't know how McCain is able to vote for the CIA to continue torturing and then go on Chris Matthews to announce he's against torture.

And if U.S. voters were educated and rational, these would all be good, logical points.

Please add italics to the first three lines of my last comment.

I just taught a class on the coming of World War I yesterday. Some of the source documents I used talked about the great euphoria that came over people all across Europe when war was declared. The idea of dedicating oneself to a greater cause than just material gain was not just a phenomenon of TR. A huge swath of the population apparently felt the same way across the industrialized world in the early twentieth century.

Nietzsche’s writings are filled with this revulsion at the narrowness of bourgeois society. William James even wrote an essay called “The Moral Equivalent of War” suggesting we needed to retain the martial virtues in some form, but in a way that redirected those impulses from actual war.

Obama’s message itself seems to point to the idea that he feels we need to direct our energies to a higher cause than just material gain. This whole “un-American thing” seems especially ludicrous when directed against Obama since the core of his message is about national unity. Obviously, this Wright/flag pin/Elitist attacks are derived from Rove’s tactics of going after your opponent’s strengths.

This is also pretty much the line taken in David Frum's Dead Right -- he basically considers it a point of regret that not more people have experiences like the Donner Pass party.

McCain, after all, knows what he's talking about so it seems relatively unlikely that he's going to suddenly realize how perverse this is (the risk is that life will get good, we need policies to ensure a healthy baseline of death and destruction ) and reconsider.

One would think so, but I think Inquiring hits on something above.

I think the best evidence that McCain *doesn't* know what he's talking about is the entire legacy of the Vietnam war. Any thoughts that military service during war is enobling and strengthens the moral fiber of the nation are quickly dispelled by the huge number of people who returned from that war broken (not simply dead or injured, but psychologically scarred). Didn't we just go through a decade of stories of homeless vets, suffering PTSD or similar effects?

I commend the book The Psychology of Killing (although I pretty strongly disagree with the final hypothesis). The process of becoming an *effective* soldier is the process of breaking down the human instinct not to kill (in essence, you are instilling an element of psychopathy). That, in combination with combat service in a war zone simply breaks a person.

So now, just as the memories of the generation destroyed by Vietnam are fading, we will have a new generation of broken people - not just the tens of thousands of soldiers horribly maimed with physical injuries, but the countless others suffering the mental trauma induced by their service.

And the nation's fabric will not be stronger because of it.

Liberals are not without "great causes", from Kennedy's space program to a more recent politician who said:

But in fact there have been periods of time in our history where a president inspired the American people to do better, and I think we're in one of those moments right now.

Julian, your post reminded me of a poem...

"At the UnNational Monument Along the Canadian Border" by William Stafford

This is the field where the battle did not happen,
where the unknown soldier did not die.
This is the field where grass joined hands,
where no monument stands,
and the only heroic thing is the sky.

Birds fly here without any sound,
unfolding their wings across the open.
No people killed — or were killed — on this ground
hallowed by neglect and an air so tame
that people celebrate it by forgetting its name.

"The fear is that America will decline not because it overstretches, but because it enervates as its leading citizens decide that the pleasures of an oversized kitchen are more satisfying than the conflicts and challenges of patriotic service.”

No, I am afraid that it will turn out that our "leading lights" are in fact clueless, decadent idiots, who would rather fail bloodily at solving someone else's problems than succeed at solving our own, and as a consequence, see leading the United States to destruction as somehow sensible.

He should say that McCain has shown poor judgment about starting and continuing wars, as evidenced by his cheerleading for the Iraq war and willingness to keep our troops there for 100 years if necessary.

"If you were really that goddamned fond of national greatness, you'd argue for doing something that made our nation great instead of rehashing the very old and tired idea of killing a bunch of foreigners that weren't bothering us in the first place."

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Nietzsche’s writings are filled with this revulsion at the narrowness of bourgeois society. William James even wrote an essay called “The Moral Equivalent of War” suggesting we needed to retain the martial virtues in some form, but in a way that redirected those impulses from actual war.

Very interesting about James, whose essay I haven't read and can't find right now, unfortunately. But there is a direct line from Nietzsche to Strauss in this and so many other ways - not that they are of the same stature: hardly! Strauss is never very obviously clear (by design), but he is relatively clear about the necessity of both religion and war: while he is personally atheist, and while he would never he go to war himself, he thinks they are both *vital* for the health of a culture. That would make McCain a useful idiot, part of what I believe Machiavelli called the Nobility.

MY - as when middle aged men such as Brooks or Bush who chose not to serve when they had the chance start musing about the romance of war.

Only an ignorant Lefty Jew cocksucker like M Yglesias can claim Bush II did not serve. F-102s? Put a Lefty shirker in one and the cockpit would be full of their the urine and feces two minutes into flight.

McKingford - The process of becoming an *effective* soldier is the process of breaking down the human instinct not to kill (in essence, you are instilling an element of psychopathy). That, in combination with combat service in a war zone simply breaks a person.

Right. More loathing Lefty drivel from another Lefty who claims to love and support "The Troops". Studies show that these Vets, or "broken psychopaths" to use McKingsford Left wing of the Democrat Party language, have better marriages, remain in better physical and mental health, have better jobs, and commit less crime than non-Vets.

Snotty Elitist TA "Cap and Gown" sez: This whole “un-American thing” seems especially ludicrous when directed against Obama since the core of his message is about national unity. Obviously, this Wright/flag pin/Elitist attacks are derived from Rove’s tactics of going after your opponent’s strengths.

Of course! Because we all know Rev. Wrights racial unification message. As we know comments of Obamas about poor, racist, religious, gun loving, immigrant-fearing, homophobic and bigoted white people - is how a black affirmative action blessed professor tells his San Fran Audience he will approach his message about "national unity".

Inquiring - With All due respect to Senator Mccain, I don't believe that he has truly experienced what war is.

The indisputable fact is that he was a fighter pilot and never had to look in the eyes of the people he killed. Not even once did his hands get sullied by the blood of the people he was killing. So it is not surprising to see the senator call for a 100 year occupation(war) of Iraq, or even make the joke, "Bomb Iran! Bomb Bomb, Bomb." To him, like many of the of those who did not have to feel the warm blood of human beings on their hands after cleaning village after village in Nam, think war can be fought on the cheap.

You smell of being another Lefty anti-American Jew.

1. US soldiers did not commonly go in villages and leave coated in Nazi baby, innocent brown peoples, innocent yellow peoples blood. That is Jew fantasy rationalizing why they and other Lefties shirked duty "Not that we were cowards! No, we wished to avoid becoming the monsters that all US troops we love and support so much, in fact, are!"

2. People like "inquiring" are so far removed from war that they are clueless. McCain scraped dead friends up off the flight deck. He spent 5 1/2 years under enemy torture and brutal conditions. He was still picking pieces of dead burned flesh from his flight suit after helping move the burned and dead during the catastrophic USS Forrestal fire.

3. I helped kill bad guys in the Gulf War. Located a hideout of 40-60 plus BMPs and called in MLRS. Few in modern war kill up close with bayonets or swords. Something few Jews outside Israel, those Jew Lefties and Neocons - get. That is "what war is", Jews! Nothing quite so pathetic as a pack of queers and Jews never within 1000 miles of war explaining why McCain knows less about the price warriors pay than they do.

Don Williams:
I wish I knew where to find it, but I remember someone on TV(or maybe in print), who was ex-Army or Marines, saying that McCain had no fucking clue about war. Besides, McCain had only 20 hours combat experience. Hell, if Obama is questioned about Wrightor Ayres, we ought to question McCain about the Forrestal fire.

I suppose those who take a less liberal view of human nature figure that people have to have a higher motivation than individual rewards.

You see, I think this is true. However, I also think that the last group I want deciding to publicly drive people towards the higher motivations of its choosing is the government.

I'll choose my own higher motivations, thank you. All I ask is that I not have to worry that I might be bankrupted by medical bills, that the public infrastructure is in good working order, and that the government not blow trillions of dollars trying to convince others to join the "higher motivations" that it deems are good for the American spirit.

I'd willingly trade away the space program in exchange for putting an end to this mindless jingoistic nonsense that mired us in Iraq.

"Only an ignorant Lefty Jew cocksucker like M Yglesias..."

"More loathing Lefty drivel from another Lefty..."

"You smell of being another Lefty anti-American Jew."

"That is Jew fantasy rationalizing why they and other Lefties shirked duty..."

"Something few Jews outside Israel, those Jew Lefties and Neocons - get. That is "what war is", Jews! Nothing quite so pathetic as a pack of queers and Jews never within 1000 miles of war explaining..."

Ford, you really are quite a loathsome piece of shit.


Randy "Duke" Cunningham was a bona fide fighter ace in Vietnam -- one of the original Top Guns. John "W" McCain got himself shot down on a bombing run. If the GOPers among us revere warriors so much, why not pick the Dukester as their nominee? Oh, I forgot: he's IN JAIL. I guess heroism in war is not a reliable indicator of a man's integrity or intelligence.

John McCain is overbearingly unctuous with his teary-eyed, steely-jawed homilies on love of country and service to a cause greater than oneself. He was NOT defending America when he was bombing Hanoi, any more than "our troops" are defending America while getting blown up in Baghdad. He wants desperately to believe that he WAS, and that's understandable. But the nation would be foolish to indulge him.

-- TP

"When politicians or anyone start obsessing about having a great nation hide your wallet and hide your sons. The Great Nation ideal is a pile or crap. However it probably will never disappear until corporate governance takes full control.

The call to National greatness is the easiest way for politicians and their partners, say Bill Kristol who blovates on our national fecklessness, to gain power and wealth. It's as simple as that. War is a racket. When your attacked there isn't much choice. When you choose war and do it for self improvement it's a pathology.

I suppose those who take a less liberal view of human nature figure that people have to have a higher motivation than individual rewards. They need a group purpose, ideally one involving a lot of death.. Funny thing is it's those same people who hold individualism as the greatest good of all, for all. Go figure.

Posted by rapier | April 19, 2008 5:23 PM"

The first sentence of your post could be very useful, as it re-packages Reagan's "I'm the federal government and I'm here to help" warning for liberal ends.

Part of me feels we need to make a big deal of McCain's attack on Romney for pursuing profit. McCain isn't an actual capitalist, but someone who felt he might as well vote with the ultra-capitalists in his party to gain favor. He doesn't really seem to care about letting people make their own decisions in life. McCain's candidacy should be the death knell of Republicans claiming to represent small government and staying out of people's lives. He wants the state to decide what the goals of people's lives should be. Voting for McCain is voting away your and your children's freedom. Tyro put it best at 12:02.

Usually I'm against banning people, but shouldn't calling our host a "Jewish cocksucker" be a banning offense? What is it with Chris Ford and Jews? Something tells me he's one of those hicks who grew up where there weren't any Jewish people and thought they had horns.

Maybe that's why "the Jews" control Hollywood! According to Chris Ford, they're the ones with the most vivid imaginations! It all makes sense now.

I think I'm going to find a Jewish person and compliment them now, just to re-balance out the karma in the world. Though I doubt I could ever make a positive enough impact to make up for the negative one that is Chris Ford.

Wait I'm confused, I thought the Jews got us into the war, now they're ones against it? I bet the Illumnati are better at keeping their conspiracy all on the same page.

As for the queers, perhaps some of them know more about war than even Chris Ford. Marine General Al Gray, was 100% nuclear grade gay, but that didn't stop President Reagan from appointing him Commandant of the Marine Corps, and by all accounts he did a damn good job.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/20/203344/416

If KKKris Ford can't get himself banned, with his homophobic, 3rd Reich-wannabe, Seig Heil rants can't get his ass banned, then I guess anything goes. I'm a free speech absolutist, so praise be, but I'm surprised a corporatist site like the Atlantic lets this stuff go...

KKKris Ford, I've cited my work, why don't you cite yours, you holocaustic troll. I'm talking *combat* vets, not like frauds like you, replaying 1942 as a Nazi in your mother's basement. BTW, if you are citing your own bullshit combat experience as evidence of mental stability...well for the rest of the objective world - thank you for making my point, you brokkken racist pukkke.

Honestly, why don't you crawl into a corner and blow Joseph Geobbels, or have the decency to do what your Fuhrer did when his (and yours) world vision failed.

Truth hurts you little self-righteous Lefty pricks, doesn't it? Leave your safe little refuges of campuses, the Daily Los and call our troops "pathological" and slander them, their sacrifice and their honor and you get the consequences..

Now when our military is smeared as "pathological, broken men" by the likes of McKingford, we smear them right back. The days of the one-sided smear by anti-Americans on the Left remaining unchallenged are history.

And McKingford, asking Jews on the Left to knock off the smears is legal. Their immunity amulet from criticism expired long ago from overclaims of antisemitism against anyone that opposed their agenda..

But as far as legal, your sedition is not. If anything, it is incumbent on media to not join in spreading felonious sedition, and consigning quasi-traitors like the McKingfords to a banning is more in keeping with our laws than people criticizing any group for persistant dishonesty in seeking to manipulate and demoralize the country..Be that Jewish neocons or Jewish haters of the military or their Gentile and Muslim allies...

Nor does MY get any slack for stating despite Bush's years in a dangerous fighter jet and an honorable discharge, that he ducked the military and never served. That is an allegation only a cocksucker makes.
Nor is anyone that criticizes any group having a corrosive and disproportionate malignant influence on nations - an automatic Nazi anymore than anti-Americans were brought up nursing on Stalin, Trotsky, Pol Pots cocks.

McKingford,

Chris Ford may have a bug up his ass about Jews, and on occasion say objectionable things about Jews qua Jews, but he deserves respect for serving in the military and putting himself in harm's way.

Chris Ford,

While there are many lefty Jews who eschew military service, they aren't representative of all American Jews.

Regarding your concern on another thread about Warren Buffett's age WRT investing in Berkshire Hathaway, the main reason I own b-shares of Berkshire is for access to its stable of dozens of highly-profitable, well-managed, wholly-owned companies (e.g., GEICO, Iscar, etc.). Those companies are collectively worth significantly more than their value on Berkshire's books, and they will continue to be highly-profitable and well-managed after Buffett is gone. Buffett's genius as a capital allocator and investor will be missed when he is gone, but I believe the reality that he is in his late 70s and isn't immortal is already priced into the stock. Buffett's role will likely be split when he passes from the scene, with his son taking over as chairman to continue the firm's culture; but if Buffett were to appoint a highly-regarded younger investor (e.g., Bruce Berkowitz or Tom Gayner) as his heir-apparent CIO, Berkshire could well start trading at a premium on that announcement.

I myself am in the military (active duty AF), and I certainly disrespect Chris Ford for the thing he says. Even the military has bad apples.

Ford's anger and hatred are about himself. It's a little unsettling to have to see so much self-hatred displayed in public, even if it's deserved.

This is so obvious it oughten really need to be said, but everybody knows that people who were both cowardly and lucky got into the National Guard during the Vietnam war in order to avoid combat in country. Maybe Ford is so fucking ignorant - in addition to full of hatred - that he doesn't know that.

Hey Klansman Ford,

You weren't killing bad guys in Iraq. I'm sorry if that makes you feel better, but you were killing ordinary people who got in the way of the greed of your U.S. capitalist masters. Sorry if that bursts your ignorant little bubble.

And yes, the US troops in Vietnam did murder millions of innocent Vietnamese. My Lai was not an abberration. You people had the gall to go into Vietnam and burn their villages and murder their children to make the world safe for US capitalism. Now you want to pretend like you people are the victims here. Sorry, no. The US in Vietnam was engaged in a purely evil endeavor. I don't have a problem with those like Kerry who are sorry about what they did but I have no desire to forgive someone like you who is unrepentant.

Yes I think that the modern US civilization is basically a corrupt and evil one and you deserve no credit for 'defending' it. Reverend Wright is a good man and a true hero. He's worth ten of you, you Klansman scum. Too bad we didn't leave Klansmen like you in Vietnam so that you could be taught a lesson in a re-education center.

To clarify, I'm not saying all military people are like Chris Ford- just the ones with Klansman opinions. Klansman scum.

Chris Ford may have a bug up his ass about Jews, and on occasion say objectionable things about Jews qua Jews, but he deserves respect for serving in the military and putting himself in harm's way.

I presume you are being sarcastic here, trying to compare some defense of Rev. Wright to Chris Ford. Because you can't possibly be serious.

"Truth hurts you little self-righteous Lefty pricks, doesn't it? Leave your safe little refuges of campuses, the Daily Los and call our troops "pathological" and slander them, their sacrifice and their honor and you get the consequences."

Actually, I find it funny. You aren't enlightening anyone, just like how the millenarians and communists you see handing out pamphlets on the street are only proving to everyone they're nuts. You know what my Jewish friends do when they find rants like yours online? They make fun of it and how you are probably mad at your sister for aborting your love child. You don't make dark-skinned people, non-Christians, foreigners and LGBT's feel sad and repentant. They only one people like us feel sorry for is you. You're a walking joke. So what was the name of the Jewish girl who didn't go to prom with you who is now richer than you? Your existence is simply a punchline for better-educated people to mock your hatred and lack of ability to control your own life.

THIS IS SPARTA!!!

"Chris Ford may have a bug up his ass about Jews, and on occasion say objectionable things about Jews qua Jews, but he deserves respect for serving in the military and putting himself in harm's way."

This is even more reprehensible than Ford's disgusting Nazi ranting. I guess Hitler deserves our respect because he served in WWI.

Chris
1) I know a young man who stands to inherit millions of Dollars, who is of partial Jewish heritage, and who is enrolled in Army ROTC because he thinks being an officer is an honorable calling.

2) My father in law, who fought behind North Korean lines as an artillery forward observer, dies a few years ago and is buried in Arlington Cemetary. If you go there -- in the section of recent burials -- and look down the line of tombstones, you will see more than a few Stars of Davids among the Crosses.

3) Your sneers at the "Jews" are an insult to men who were your brothers-in-arms.

Perversely, everything good in the latter part of McCain's life has arisen from the hardships he endured as a POW. His lionization as a war hero. His Senate seat. His marriage to a multimillionaire. The devotion of the people that surround him. He was made what he is by the worst thing that has ever happened to him--and that has become, I think, a constant in his self-image.

This is the ultimate in selection bias, though I doubt he realizes it. Most of those that were in the Hanoi Hilton alongside were not forged into men of courage and honor, or whatever sort of self-justifying martial claptrap you prefer.

They starved to death, or were beaten to death, or were shot to death. And while there is nothing dishonorable about being shot to death in a POW camp, this is the ultimate condition of most of the people sent to POW camps, at least in the sort of countries we invade.

-- ACS


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