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Ken Pollack's Defense of Lying

20 Apr 2008 11:49 am

This New York Times article about how John McCain's political strategy is based on fundamentally misleading people about the nature of the situation in Iraq, but that's okay with the media not because they're fooled but just because they like John McCain, has gotten a lot of attention, and rightly so. But this particular paragraph is especially telling:

In longer discussions on the subject, Mr. McCain often goes into greater specificity about the entities jockeying for control in Iraq. Some other analysts do not object to Mr. McCain’s portraying the insurgency (or multiple insurgencies) in Iraq as that of Al Qaeda. They say he is using a “perfectly reasonable catchall phrase” that, although it may be out of place in an academic setting, is acceptable on the campaign trail, a place that “does not lend itself to long-winded explanations of what we really are facing,” said Kenneth M. Pollack, research director at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution.

At a time like this, you have to ask yourself what is the Brookings Institution for. According to the Brookings website:

The Brookings Institution is a nonprofit public policy organization based in Washington, DC. Our mission is to conduct high-quality, independent research [...] The research agenda and recommendations of Brookings experts are rooted in open-minded inquiry and our scholars represent diverse points of view. More than 200 resident and nonresident fellows research issues; write books, papers, articles and opinion pieces; testify before congressional committees and participate in dozens of public events each year. The Institution’s president, Strobe Talbott, is responsible for setting policies that maintain Brookings’s reputation for quality, independence and impact.

To me, that sounds inconsistent with offering a public defense of the practice of using the term "al-Qaeda" to refer to entities that are not al-Qaeda. High-quality research would be that if some large number of public officials and media personalities started referring to something as "al-Qaeda" when it was not, in fact, al-Qaeda you try to correct the record. Instead, Pollack seems to feel his job is to help push back against the people who are trying to correct the public record.

It's certainly an interesting development. A lot of very good people work at Brookings. I imagine they enjoy working at a place that has a reputation for "high-quality, independent research . . . rooted in open-minded inquiry" but it's a reputation they're in danger of losing. Strobe Talbott, who's "responsible for setting policies that maintain Brookings’s reputation for quality, independence and impact" might want to think about some of this.

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This is truly a surprising development. It's almost as if every political opponent resented by the U.S. foreign policy establishment over the last 50 years was tarred with being part of a Soviet & Chinese hegemonic Communist empire. Our great and noble thinkers would never have let such nonsense through previously -- imagine had the establishment tried to portray the tiny government of Nicaragua as some sort of Soviet beachhead representing a dire threat to Americans; they'd be laughed out of politics.

At a time like this, you have to ask yourself what is the Brookings Institution for

At a time like this, you have to ask yourself what is the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution for? One common answer is to support right-wing approaches to US policy in the Middle East. This example seems to fit.

Re otto

Gee, Mr. otto has beaten Mr. Don Williams to the punch here, blaming it all on Hiam Saban. I suspect we will get Mr. Williams' input shortly.

You say lying, I say straight talk.

There is no inconsistency between conducting high-quality, independent research rooted in open-minded inquiry, and defending the use of "Al Qaeda" on the campaign trail as a catchall term for entities that are not all Al Qaeda. Regrettably, this is the way elite foreign policy groups and institutions have always conducted themselves. Nobody said all that high quality research is intended for intellectual consumption by the ignorant mob. They get the Readers' Digest version - if that.

Certainly, this attitude is a matter of course in the military. The military understands its job to include the maintenance of homefront morale. And that job always requires a certain amount of half-truths, gross simplifications and outright lies.

Look, in recent years Brookings---like nearly all "think-tanks" and most major universities---has basically become a fund-raising perpetual-motion-machine. Their definition of success is raising more money and the people at Brookings who achieve this get promoted, while those who interfere with this mission get pushed out. I have little doubt that if someone else outbid Saban, Brookings would do a policy u-turn double quick.

Speaking of this, did you see that Soros got "lucky" last year, and personally earned about $3B betting against those disastrous mortgage securities. Maybe if we get lucky and he's in a generous mood, he'll decide to buy back a big slice of the Democratic Party from AIPAC! (Buying back Brookings would only take petty cash).

I think that "shameless hacks" is a perfectly reasonable catchall phrase for Kenneth Pollack and people like him.

How about a rule that all future wonkospheric references to statements by Kenneth Pollack be of the form "a shameless hack asserted" or "shameless hacks assert" in the case that there is someone else as shameless as Kenneth Pollack willing to go along ?

If any reader is interested in which shameless hack made the assertion, a link to the record of the shameless hack's hacking will do.

Dan Kervick: "The military understands its job to include the maintenance of homefront morale. And that job always requires a certain amount of half-truths, gross simplifications and outright lies."

This is not the job of the military; in fact it is something that is extremely contrary to the mission of the military as specified by the Constitution, and very dangerous. Unfortunately for us the Bush Administration could not care less.


Speaking of this, did you see that Soros got "lucky" last year, and personally earned about $3B betting against those disastrous mortgage securities.

Sometimes all it takes is common sense...

So...We're gonna call every bullet not fired by an American or one of our allies in Iraq a bullet fired by al Quaeda, simply because the American public is incapable of appreciating nuances of the political situation there. I know times are getting hard, but surely there's a Walmart in Pollack's neighborhood that can use a stock boy.

"Gee, Mr. otto has beaten Mr. Don Williams to the punch here, blaming it all on Hiam Saban. I suspect we will get Mr. Williams' input shortly.

Posted by SLC | April 20, 2008 12:26 PM"

Usually I think Don Williams's obsession with him is a bit loopy, but when his name is the same as the research institute because he's the primary benefactor, then maybe he does have a bit of influence there.

Kenneth Pollack used to do decent work on Arab politics up until the mid-to-late 1990's. What the hell rotted his brain?

A lot of very good people work at Brookings.

The delicious punch at Brookings loses it's appeal when you find out the many turds floating in said punch are there not by some accident but by design.

If we can use "Al Queda" to refer to groups that are not Al Queda, can we use "Republican" to refer to groups that are not Republicans, say groups like NAMBLA?

It's a perfectly legitimate catchall phrase, and we just don't have the time to get into long-winded explanations of what we're really dealing with....

SLC:
You do know what Saban once said he was a one issue guy, right? And you do know what that one issue is, right?

"can we use "Republican" to refer to groups that are not Republicans, say groups like NAMBLA?"

You're on the right track, West Coast. We've got RepublicanNews (FoxNews, CNN, ABC, NBC). There are some good Republican social groups like KKK, American Nazi Party; the Crips and the Bloods act like Republican gangs...
And we've got the Republican Credit crisis, Republican mortgage meltdown...

Re Reality Man & JoeKleins'conscience

Actually, Mr. Saban is an appeaser. This is the same Hiam Saban who advocates talking to Hamas (didn't James Earl Carter just do that), thinks that Dubya is too pro Israel, advocates talking to Hizbollah, and advocates talking to Iran. Apparently, his minions at the Saban Institute aern't getting the message. All of this was on a Don Williams post of an interview with Haaretz some time ago. Sounds like Saban, Williams and Obama are on the same page.

Pollack's justification of lying is not a novel one - Back when Bush was initially conflating and confusing various regional terror groups with global terror groups, many ideologues on the right justified this ledgerdemaine as necessary so as not to confuse the masses - or to confuse them into a more appropriate direction.

Think about how often the phrase " What Bush meant was ..." was said in the past few years. Or how about "What Cheney mean to say ..."

These were similar to Pollack's defense of lies.

Then there is the neoconsevative sublime love for lies - in principle. Ends in themselves. Pollack is different - his defense of lies is a practical one, not theoretical.

A little off topic, but why isn't anyone talking much about Hillary Clinton's startling pledge, in the last debate (Debate? Schmebate!) of "massive relaliation" against Iran or anyone else who attacked any country in a hypothetical "umbrella" of Mesopotamian allies?

And what about her defense of an imperial presidency in which military generals and advisors are there solely to advise...then take orders from the Clinton in Chief?

Is she trying to go right of McCain...or just pandering as usual?

SLC is an appeaser. Yes, he supports torturing and murdering every Arab on earth, but has he ever supported building a time machine to travel back through history to torture and murder every Arab who's ever lived? And going back to the big bang in order to destroy the universe in order to make sure no Arabs will ever exist? No. Sounds like SLC, Saban, Williams and Obama are on the same page.

Well done Matt. If anything captures the complete fantasy world that the neoconservatives are occupying then this does, that they are happy to characterise the entire opposition to the US occupation of Iraq as Al Qaeda? Can there be anything that could so badly summarise the situation and lead to utterly inappropriate policy?

This proves entirely that McCain is of the school that believes that we make our own reality now--definitely McSame.

Typical partisan sophistry. Matt and others here pretend that, unlike Ken Pollack, they know EXACTLY who and what Al Qaeda is. It is to laugh.

In fact, there are a number of groups and individuals all over the world who are somewhat to very sympathetic with Al Qaeda's general franchise parameters without necessarily getting checks from them or spending time in Waziristan. Just try tracking the various streams of funding from Saudi sources. The threads of Iranian support to various Iraqi groups is also Byzantine, often supporting groups at odds with each other, even including some random "Al Qaeda" types in spite of the Sunni/Shi'ia divide. This is a very complex phenomenon, and the idea that people like Matt can trump a real expert like Pollard on who's who is risible.

these critique of brookings and pollack and his crew are wonderful.

thanks.

Paris Hilton, what the fuck? Pollack just said that it was fine to use the term "al-Qaeda", who was behind the WTC attacks, to refer to a bunch of different insurgencies in Iraq with differing interests for the purpose of lying to the American people. Seriously, why the hell are you defending Pollack here?

Ken Pollack is an Expert. An Expert is right even when what it sounds like he's saying is wrong, unless he is saying something non-hawkish, in which case an Expert is not an Expert but a Fifth Columnist.

the idea that people like Matt can trump a real expert like Pollard on who's who is risible.

Pollard? Who he? Did you mean Ken 'Never Mind the Pollacks, Feel The Wingnut Welfare', whose knowledge of the Middle East is all the more astonishing given that he speaks neither Arabic nor Persian?

Perhaps, 'Paris Hilton', you should stick to areas where you've shown past expertise? Oh. Just fuck off then.

Pollack ignores the fact that there are political reasons for that particular shorthand. Shorthand phrases are perfectly acceptable in every day speaking, but phrases couched to ignore difficulties aren't. The act of hiding a difficulty is a lie.

One begins to see the intellectual damage done by the far right message machine and their pressure over the course of several years.

It will take a very concerted effort to correct this situation.

It really is sad that a supposed "think tank" basically excuses a grievous error of terminology and conception.

There is a tendency among the far right, including McCain, to pursue a characterization of the situation that de facto labels all Muslims and muslim nations and groups as terrorists.

That's essentially McCain's formulation, and his attempt to appeal to the public. It's basically the thinking that all Muslims look alike, act alike, and terrorize alike And yes,it does represent a form of racism.

"...the idea that people like Matt can trump a real expert like Pollard on who's who is risible"

That posting by our neocon friend "Paris Hilton" is a real doozy!

And his strong support for his hero "Pollard" is what I think they used to call a highly revealing "Freudian Slip"...

Here is basically the McCain/Bush/neocon position: all Muslims and all Muslim countries are terrorists, therefore all deserve to be attacked.

They try to play on what they perceive and hope to be the ignorance of the people.

That's how they whipped up support for the war in Iraq; they confused the issue of 9/11 and Al Qaeda with Iraq. They really could have gone after any other Muslim country and the arguments would have been the same.

Anytime anyone hears McCain's views on Iraq and what he thinks would happen if we pulled out, they should consider that this is the same McCain that told us that Iraq had WMDs and was an imminent threat. His judgement has already proven to be flawed.

The post of Paris Hilton is confusing.

On one hand, the choice of name suggests the intention to label the content "what an airhead would write" (apologies to the actual Paris, if this is you). On the other hand, the poster uses extensive vocabulary, and quite ingenuous reasoning: because many Saudi princes fund radical who may be sympathetic to al-Qaeda and because the Iran's policies are Byzantine, and sometimes they seem to support an occasional Sunni, the situation is sooo complex that it behooves an expert to simplify when he or she talks to a wide public.

Except that it would really be nice to explain why at the moment we chose to bribe Sunni radicals to submission and refuse cease-fire offers from Shia radicals who never were in the slightest connected to al-Qaeda? What the hell are we trying to achieve?

One cannot win while having contradictory goals, so certain details do matter.

Ahh I wasn't aware that allies of groups are, ipso facto, members of that group. I wonder what the British and Australians think of being Americans now? That's got to get under their craw, surely.

Thank God for Paris Hilton, really.

How else would we know that, like Elvis, Al Queda is everywhere?

What planet is Iglesias on? Brookings has been taken over by the Lobby, which also controls the major US media.

Re Dick Fitzgerald

Mr. Fitzgerald is seriously in error. The former members of Skull and Bones control the media.

"If any reader is interested in which shameless hack made the assertion, a link to the record of the shameless hack's hacking will do."

Man, I'm getting killed here...

Lawrence is right - Clinton "pole-axed" (to use Keith Olbermann's words) the Democratic foreign policy concept by offering to shield "everybody" - read: Israel and Saudi Arabia - in the Middle East - except presumably Syria and Iran - with our nuclear weapons.

And absolutely nobody except Olbermann and Maddow noticed.

Nobody also noticed that this suggestion came directly from the mouth of one Charles Krauthammer.

If Clinton supporters don't realize by now that this clown is a right wing hawk who hangs with right wing Republican hawks on a regular basis, I don't know what to tell you.

"Actually, Mr. Saban is an appeaser. This is the same Hiam Saban who advocates talking to Hamas (didn't James Earl Carter just do that), thinks that Dubya is too pro Israel, advocates talking to Hizbollah, and advocates talking to Iran. Apparently, his minions at the Saban Institute aern't getting the message. All of this was on a Don Williams post of an interview with Haaretz some time ago. Sounds like Saban, Williams and Obama are on the same page.

Posted by SLC | April 20, 2008 1:35 PM"

I think it's safe to say that "appeaser" is one of those words that now only come out of the mouths of crazy people, like "the workers control the means of production," "Islamofascism" and "because it says so in Leviticus and Revelations, that's why."

But how can we appease Al Qaeda if we don't know exactly who they are? Do they have special tatoos?


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