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The Case for Moving On

06 Apr 2008 04:13 pm

Oftentimes as a dictatorial regime enters its waning days you face a choice as to whether or not to offer the leaders guarantees if they agree to give up power. The downside is that this seems to create bad incentives -- the bad actors get away scott-free when it would be better for evil to be punished. The upside is that with guarantees they may actually give up power, whereas regime leaders who know that if they give up power they'll be treated harshly will probably hold on to power with the utmost brutality. Timothy Burke, thinking of Zimbabwe, says this kind of thinking is bunk:

So even if we understand people like Mugabe and his inner circle as calculating, incentive-evaluating, rational deciders, I think there is every reason for them to laugh behind closed doors at the hubris of the experts and activists, whatever the latest policy nostrum on tribunals, interventions, sanctions, golden parachutes or so on might be. Because what anyone outside of the rarified settings where generic 12-point plans for peacemaking and incentivizing prosecutions for genocide are composed knows is that every such action is and will be sui generis. The sand castles that the experts build today around one case will be washed away by the tides of history in short order. What happened in the end to Charles Taylor or Auguste Pinochet or Saddam Hussein or Slobodan Milosevic has little implication for tomorrow’s dictator and mass murderer. Because the people who play with constructing the machinery of incentive aspire to a kind of reliable managerial authority that they will never have, they are writing blank checks that no one will ever cash. Whether or not someone like Robert Mugabe dies peacefully in his bed, lives out his last years far from his home country, ends up in a pleasant prison while the United Nations dithers for a decade over his fate, is shot by an up-and-coming rival, or ends up torn to shreds by a mob is a matter of particular circumstance. That’s probably something most authoritarians know already, having ridden the vissitudes of history as far as they have.

I guess that seems plausible enough, though I find it pretty unsatisfying as a conclusion and though perhaps it's just technocratic hubris, I'd like to try to see some data.

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Excellent post by Burke. What has always bothered me about the argument that serial human rights abusers like Pinochet should be guaranteed no prosecution because they may not be willing to cede power are two things:

1.) What does one tell subsequent dictators: it was okay to grant dictator A amnesty in return for stepping down, but not acceptable for you to get an amnesty.

2.) It ignores the deterrent effect the proponents claim that it has. To wit, if one believes that a.) Mugabe's possible prosecution might prevent him from leaving office, then one should acknowledge that b.) the threat of prosecution could very well be a preventative against human rights abuses. I cannot recall anyone accepting both a.) and b.).

Personally, I don't believe that the threat of prosecution prevents anyone from leaving office, nor do I believe that the threat of prosecution - at its current weak stage - has a deterrent effect upon the commission of human rights abuses. I do believe if more teeth were put into the possibility of prosecution, it could have a deterrent effect.

I still don't get why we can't just lie, and then kill them anyway. People keep telling me it's wrong or something, but it seems like it beats the hell out of the alternative.You just have to make sure it looks like angry locals did it. It's not justice, perhaps. But it's something.

Perhaps this is true in the third world; but there is no question that the pardoning of Watergater, the non-prosecution of Iran/Contra led directly to Bush's abuses. & if his crimes & corruption aren't prosecuted; there will soon be a president who does worse.

As Randy Paul above said, excellent post by Burke. I too find it nonsensical to worry about the "message" a negotiated exit from power would send to other dictators. In a dictator's mind, prosecutions are not caused by human rights abuses, but by loss of power. Stay in power until you die and no problem.

That is not to say that prosecutions are without use. They send a clear message about the norms of acceptable human behaviour. Dictators are humans too, and many of them aspire to the respect that "enlightened" status bestows on its holder.

I think the above line of thinking argues powerfully for giving him the amnesty if it will ease him out of office, as any notion that we shouldn't give away amnesties because they will incentivize future abuses is bunk.

I think it is quite common for leaders to put in place safeguards before stepping down and I could well imagine that if the deal is that Mugabe and who knows how much of his regime swings if he leaves power then they will rather take the civil war option--why not? However, if they are given legal guarantees that they have immunity from prosecution then they may well see this as the path of least resistance.

Now here is a question: has anyone given thought to amnesties for the current US administration to dissuade them from attacking Iran in an effort to create the kind of environment (all hell breaking loose) that would make it difficult for their political opponents to deal with their own crimes. Just a thought.

Does this mean we may need to offer Bush amnesty to get him out of office?

Shouldn't we be more concerned with how to get Dick Cheney to leave quietly?

Circa January 3, 2009 I expect a BIG FIRE to break out in the White House.

By the way, has the White House found those millions of missing emails? The ones they were required BY LAW to preserve?

See
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/20/2008/3065

Chris Dornan,

Charles Taylor, as part of his walk out of office in Liberia agreed to exile in Nigeria and keep his hands off of affairs in Liberia. Unfortunately, he broke his word.

I think it is quite common for leaders to put in place safeguards before stepping down

I can speak largely about Latin America and I can tell you that Pinochet wrote an amnesty for himself while still a dictator and arranged for himself to be a senator for life, which gave him immunity. He did not go queitly, however, and even when his son was being investigated for financial improprietes, he put troops out on the street in a show of force known as the Boinazo that put an end to the investigation. The full stop laws in Argentina were passed after the troops staged rebellions when investigations were being made into the military's rule during the Dirty War. There was no amnesty granted before, but one was drawn up hastily and sloppily. When one party has the power to enforce their own impunity for crimes that's extortion.

So what do we need to give the Clinton's to get them to go away?

No, I do not think we should give amnesty to the worst war criminals of our age. I'm referring to Bush and company of course. I still have hopes that those criminals will hang by the neck until dead. Even if we need to wait until Bush is a drooling octogenarian, I'd still like to see him at the end of a rope (after a fair trial, of course).

I agree that international law has never been enforced consistently enough to deter anyone. The world needs to work its way towards a government that can enforce international laws consistently. In the meantime, each case is sui generis as Burke says. I admit I'm as subject to childish emotions as anyone; but considering it rationally, I couldn't care less whether Mugabe, Hussein, Bush, or Putin walks away punished or laughing. The world needs peace, not revenge.

If you have to negotiate with a dictator to get him to leave power, then he still has power - and you don't.

Power responds only to greater power.

I say, shoot the fucker in the head and be done with it. Then deal with the next guy by telling him he can get shot in the head or he can deal - his choice.

And anybody can get shot in the head, or blown up, or whatever. No public figure has adequate security. None.

"I admit I'm as subject to childish emotions as anyone; but considering it rationally, I couldn't care less whether Mugabe, Hussein, Bush, or Putin walks away punished or laughing. The world needs peace, not revenge.

Posted by Gary Sugar | April 6, 2008 6:38 PM"

Very true. As much as I would like to see Mugabe killed by an angry mob Mussolini-style, getting him out of power is the biggest thing. If letting him escape to London with his riches (where one of his associates has a flat with a solid-gold bathtub), then we should do that. If the international community got together to bump him off and let the MDC take power (especially considering they would probably be in power under free and fair elections), we should do that. If in postwar Germany we started prosecuting everyone who deserved to go to jail or die for what they had done, there would have been no time to rebuild the German economy or create a functioning state in the middle of Europe during the Cold War.

If letting him escape to London with his riches (where one of his associates has a flat with a solid-gold bathtub), then we should do that.

If I meet him in the streets of South Ken or wherever I'll give him a good talking to.

If letting him escape to London with his riches (where one of his associates has a flat with a solid-gold bathtub), then we should do that. If the international community got together to bump him off and let the MDC take power (especially considering they would probably be in power under free and fair elections), we should do that.

What do you say to the next dictator? It was acceptable for Mugabe, but not for you?

"What do you say to the next dictator? It was acceptable for Mugabe, but not for you?

Posted by Randy Paul | April 7, 2008 12:46 PM"

Unless we get to the point that the world community has a large, united military force (controlled by the UN or whatever) that can enforce international human rights laws, these things will have to work a bit on a case-by-case basis. The optimum would be to have all evil dictators rotting in the Hague, but the logistics just aren't there to make that a universal solution. Sadly, a lot of the time there just isn't any way to remove a dictator. At least in Zimbabwe there is the possibility that the MDC could take over if Mugabe dies, Zanu-PF implodes, the states collapses, etc.

Forget about Mugabe. Give the white farmers back their 5000 farms. Protect them with EU troops. Use UN donor money to buy enough food from the farmers for the domestic market, and let the farmers sell the rest for export. Withhold 20% of their export revenues and hold it in escrow for when Zimbabwe finally has a legitimate government.


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