K-Lo wants less drinking and whoring from the troops. Plus some kind of effort to remove pornography from military facilities. If you think we're having recruiting problems now, just wait 'till she gets done wreaking havoc.
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24 Apr 2008 04:45 pm
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I'd like to see less whoring from movement conservatives, but then how would we recognize them?
There's nothing wrong with K-Lo that some Wesson oil, rubber sheets, a bearded dwarf and a mule wouldn't set right.
What a stupid fat fuck she is.
Joe Strummer writes: "Well, let's pie K-lo. Right, Matt? That would be Funny!"
It might be, but why bother? K-Lo pies herself a dozen times a day with her own words. Damn, she's a fucking idiot.
What a stupid fat fuck she is.
Tell us what you really think, Gob! Don't hold back now, ya hear!? How fat is she?
Gob,
Please keep your sexist remarks to yourself.
She's so fat her gynecologist found a giblet pack while doing a pelvic exam.
Sounds like McCain was not quite the war-hero she makes him out to be, since he was a notorious drinker/whorer when he was in uniform.
I'm with K-Lo. The biggest problem with America's Iraqi policy is the prevalence of booze and porn. Once we ban those substances, the Sunni, Shia, and Kurds will create a harmonious liberal commonwealth.
On second thought, doesn't this idea of prohibitionist, progressive reform make K-Lo an elitist, liberal fascist? WWJS (What Would Jonah Say...)
I'm with K-Lo. The biggest problem with America's Iraqi policy is the prevalence of booze and porn. Once we ban those substances, the Sunni, Shia, and Kurds will create a harmonious liberal commonwealth.
On second thought, doesn't this idea of prohibitionist, progressive reform make K-Lo an elitist, liberal fascist? WWJS (What Would Jonah Say...)
Hey, rampant misogyny! This must be an Obama blog.
Don't hold back now, ya hear!? How fat is she?
Yo' blogga' is so fat, when she went to the beach, Greenpeace tried to roll her back in the water.
Oh, man. This thread could degrade in a hurry.
I think Gob's comments qualify as size-ist, not sexist.
But I think K-lo's right on. We need to make sure that our fighting force made up primarily of 18-24 males stripped away from girlfriends/wives for their third tour of duty have no access to nuddie pics of any kind. In fact, a policy like that has the dual advantage of boosting morale further AND increasing recruitment.
Because taking porn away from 18-24 year old males fighting for our country is the highest priority facing our military. Higher than providing updated Kevlar vests.
If I call Al a douche, is that misogynist?
Probably.
It long predates Obama's candidacy, but yeah, the men's-locker-room vibe gets a little strong in here sometimes.
As a retired sailor, I am greatly amused by K-Lo's hagiography and abject worship of the sainted Troops, who do not cuss, do not drink, praise Jesus hourly and, for God's sake, never touch themselves in such a manner as to spill their seed uselessly into the dust.
I can assure you that even us beatific, sainted heroes love to get a nut any time we can, and if that means grabbing the nearest Hustler with most of the pages stuck together out of the smut locker, then so be it.
"Hey asshole! Quit making drain babies and get out of the shower!"
I defy K-Lo to go into a latrine/head on any given morning on a ship or camp and not hear those words.
Beating off is why God invented Playboy and sea socks.
Ah, but the Washington Monthly highlighted the wrong quote from her post:
"Porn is a sad and lonely world, and I respect men — especially military men — too much to know they may be living in it."
Porn World Fever: Catch It!
Twenty years ago, when young Seaman Calipygian was on the USS Midway in the first Gulf War, the Navy sold raunchy porn in the ships stores. I was browsing the mags and among the Playboys, Hustlers, Penthouses, Shaved, Leg Show, et al., was a copy of Chicks With Dicks. So, I'm flipping through this thinking to myself, "Who, on a ship with 5,000 guys, is going to buy a copy of Chicks With Dicks?" I grab my Penthouse Letters and go back up to my work space. Sitting there the electrical work bench is our mat man reading his newly bought copy of Chicks with Dicks. For the intellectually stimulating articles, obviously.
Second true story - There we were, months out of port, doing doughnuts in the Arabian Gulf when, out of nowhere, a whole division of aircraft maintainers all come down with the clap. From where? We haven't been in port for weeks and there are no females on the ship. Unless you count the blow-up doll that one guy brought with him on board, along with a case of the clap. He joined the ship by helo at sea and brought both along with him and was kind enough to freely share his bounty with his shipmates.
Its a great story. I hope its true.
Proof that porn is not a "sad and lonely world". Its a world to be shared with your friends!
Following afferent, how the hell is what Gob said sexist? I recall a recent thread that went off the rails over Ambinder's rather portly stature.
To paraphrase Bill Maher, we've sent our army to a country with no drugs and no pussy. Bad idea.
Thanks nolaboyd. I also failed to note that Gob's comment, in addition to being size-ist, was cognitively impaired-ed-ist. Gob truly is a monster who deserves a pie in the face. But not for the high-crime of sexism.
I think world without porn would be even lonelier and sadder because it would probably take guys 5-times as long to beat the bishop. Which leave less time to spend with friends and loved ones.
"Unless you count the blow-up doll that one guy brought with him on board, along with a case of the clap."
This sounds like a 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' dodge to me, but if our Sainted Troops say they got the clap from a blow up doll, the proper response is 'thanks for your service.'
Yeah, I mean, she's so fat. Who cares what fat people say? They're so, like, fat.
This reminds me of Brando's discourse at the end of Apocalypse Now -
"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't allow them to write "f**k" on their airplanes because it's obscene!"
Another thing that young Seaman Calipygian used to like to do was to go into the BX (I was stationed at an Air Force base in Japan) and put copies of Dog and Cat Fancy in the porn section.
Good times, good times....
Maher's quips are very amusing, but Vietnam, so I hear, had plenty of both (drugs and...etc.), and it didn't work out so well either. Maybe we should just stop sending our army to other countries?
Considering the high rate of sexual assault against female soldiers serving in Iraq, I'm all for it.
But it's the age of Cialis, unfortunately. Considering how much misogyny and sexual assault pervades our culture, some men need less erections, not more . . .
Considering the high level of sexual assault against female soldiers serving in Iraq, I think it's an idea worth considering.
Unfortunately, it's the age of Viagra. But with misogyny and sexual assault pervading our culture, what some men need is less erection, not more . . .
With misogyny and sexual assault pervading our culture, what some men need is less erection, not more...
But an argument could just as easily be made that pornography provides a release point for sexual energy, before it turns aggressive and potentially dangerous.
Today we relive World War I!!!
I remember reading a story about Clemenceau's asking Wilson or some aide thereto just where the new American soldiers' official (inspected) brothels should be placed. The American took umbrage, saying something like, "These are good, young, Christian, me!," to which the old G.C. responded, "Yes, but they are _soldiers_."
I believe we refused the brothels, and as a result the post-war song "Look What My Boy Got in France" was just a little bit more risqué than it would have been.
Of course, this could be yet another good argument against fighting unnecessary wars---I mean, Kat, we're not only endangering their lives, but their very souls.
Really, K-Lo's opinion is pretty dumb on the merits (and kind of funny coming from a publication that is so gung-ho about "winning" the war being a singular objective). But let's stop with the personal insults. I've had a couple of e-mail exchanges with her over the years; she's a perfectly nice person even if I think her politics are clueless. I don't see what her weight has to do with this issue.
Don't give Al ammunition. He's right. This thread has been sexist.
Dilan, I don't give a shit how nice she is in person, she has an entirely pernicious effect on our discourse, and the shallowness of her remarks makes her deserving of mockery. And she sure as hell isn't very nice herself in her writing.
And re-assertions of the sexism charge without evidence doesn't advance anything. The fat comments are crude and adolescent, and thus worthy of criticism, but as I noted, they have been equally applied to men. Calling them sexist demeans real cases of sexist behavior.
nola:
John Podhoretz is fat. Jonah Goldberg is not thin. Heck, the very proprietor of this blog doesn't look like he ran in the Boston Marathon on Monday.
Women get 95 percent of the weight comments in our society, at least. Fat is a feminist issue. And because of that, men who are sensitive to feminism know better than to turn a discussion about a woman's ideas (however wrongheaded) into a disquisition about her appearance.
There's plenty of good feminist writing on this issue that I can refer you to if you are interested, but, bottom line, yes, remarks about a woman's appearance, when it isn't relevant to the discussion, are sexist.
This may come as a shock to Ms. Lopez, but men under 25 fill 45% of the ranks, and I'll hazard a guess that they're a larger portion of deployed units.
I don't personally know what the undergrad men at Catholic University were like in her day, but if she were honest with herself, she'd probably recall that even with the course load, they exhibited a strong sex drive.
Take away the diversions of D.C., females, and study, and dating yourself starts to look a lot more interesting than it already was. Jesus, I know she's got column inches to fill, but the lady needs to purchase a clue.
She may be "nice", but there is no way in hell I would ever want to live in the United States of Gilead, which is exactly what my beloved country would turn into if fanatics like her grasped the reigns of power in any serious way.
William S. Burroughs used to have a character in his stories called "Old Sarge."
When somebody complained about soldiers raping civilians, he'd bellow, "What the bloody hell are civilians FOR?"
It's common knowledge that one of the interests of soldiers in any country that might reasonably be involved in invading another country throughout history has been raping the women of the other country. If anybody thinks that didn't go on in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and indeed in Iraq as we know from a couple cases, they're deluded.
Even in cases where civilian women aren't raped, the treatment of them by US soldiers is not feminist by any means.
Removing their porn diet is not going to help matters. Removing them from the battlefield will.
I mean, the whole notion of the US having a huge military is brain dead in the first place. We are guarded by two oceans and two more or less friendly countries on our other two sides. Who the FUCK is going to "invade" the US? The movie "Red Dawn" was bullshit, in case the right wing freaks don't know that.
Nuke us, yes. Invade us - no frickin' way.
So do we really need a million man military and then station them all over hell outside this country to PROTECT this country?
Hell, no.
And ninety percent of the time, even if another country DID go to war with us, invading them in the same manner we did Iraq is hardly in the cards.
Does anybody think the US military could ever invade China? Russia? Anybody remember the last time the Germans tried that? The Japanese?
Face facts. The US military is one huge, brain dead money sink for a bunch of rich people to get richer out of. It has zero practical purpose for protecting the people of this country. It's an instrument of imperialism - period.
The US military could effectively protect the US mainland and possessions with ten percent of the size and cost it has now - if it were designed properly. And at that size and cost, it would STILL be bigger than any other military on earth (if not in actual numbers of soldiers - nobody can compare to China.)
Women get 95 percent of the weight comments in our society, at least.
I don't know about 95%, but the imbalance isn't likely to go away. Physical attractiveness is much more important to men in their choice of sexual partners than to women.
I guess that I am one of the 5% of men who get weight comments. Whoo hoo. I feel like I am part of the elite.
Oh, and Mixner, I will definately disagree with your comment that "Physical attractiveness is much more important to men in their choice of sexual partners than to women." I think that physical attractiveness is equally important to both sexes. Trust me, women care about looks just as much as men do.
Anyhoo, I am a little confused here. I know that our soldiers buying porn is one of the most important issue facing our military today. But don't Republicans believe in the free market? Don't conservatives like laissez-faire (I know that I mis-spelled that) economic policies? I mean, there is a market for porn. Why do they want the government to intervene and prevent our brave men and women from buying the pornography they so want and deserve? That sounds pretty elitist to me, telling our soldiers what to think. Why does K-Lo hate our troops so much?
One more thing. I do have a problem with the rampant sexism in pornography. Female porn stars are paid far more than their male counterparts. This is just wrong. Equal pay for equal work!!!
Conservatism amounts to whatever helps Republicans feel smug and righteous. Darwinian evolution hurts conservatives' feelings because it punctures their smug, righteous feelings about their own creation. Creationism exists not to predict or explain anything, but simply to buttress conservatives' smug righteousness.
Abstinence-only sex education is taught not to decrease rates of pregnancy and STDs, but to help teachers and parents feel smug and righteous about preaching the gospel.
Tax cuts for the rich and deregulation are not for creating jobs, growing the economy or otherwise improving the world, but for helping the rich and powerful feel smug and righteous about their own importance. It's just not fair to punish us for our success. It interferes with us giving ourselves credit for making the world turn.
In foreign affairs, the U.S. mustn't cooperate with other countries. The smug and the righteous don't ask for a permission slip. So important and fragile is our smug righteousness that we can't even talk to people we don't like. We certainly cannot leave Iraq, because the war is about our feelings. Leaving would make the terrorists feel smug and righteous, instead of conservatives.
So don't be too hard on K-Lo. She perfectly fits an unbroken, smug, righteous narrative that goes all the way back to creation. Those airbrushed magazine titties are almost as bad as Darwin; they threaten the whole smug, righteous, conservative enterprise!
So much for supporting our troops. Let's not even start on undermining morale.
As far as I can ascertain, and like alot of Republican women (Coulter, Ingraham, Noonan), it looks like K-Lo is single.
As far as I can ascertain, and like alot of Republican women (Coulter, Ingraham, Noonan), it looks like K-Lo is single.
So is K-Lo in favor of our soldiers turning to rape instead and then innocent soldiers getting shot in revenge by the family members of rape victims? She is beyond retarded. Maybe Derbyshire sneaks into her bedroom at night to suck some of her brain out of her head through a straw.
As always, you brainiacs overlook the REAL issue:
If you took the soldiers porn away for 3 months , would any of them still be horny enough to want to fuck K-Lo?
If ,by chance, one of them did, would he follow Kipling's advice when he woke up in bed with K-LO and a very bad hangover?
" jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
and go to your Gawd like a soldier. "
I wonder what she (and people like her) would say to those who say that the greater ease with which people can get porn has reduced rape?
I can understand some of the point of the people wanting it out of exchanges: taxpayer money is being used, at some level, so you do get people who don't like porn (and wouldn't buy it) subsidizing, to a very small degree, the purchase of porn.
Of course, you also get some people who hate religion providing the same amount of subsidy to the various religious materials (like, say, Bibles) sold in exchanges.
Maybe they should complain about that, and we can ban porn and Bibles from base exchanges!
Here's a new idea for an NGO: Patriotic Porn. They can raise money to send porn, blow-up dolls, etc. to the troops. If you're against helping out the troops in a way that a young male needs, then you must be unpatriotic. So what's it going to be: giving into your own prudishness or being patriotic?
As a retired sailor, I am greatly amused by K-Lo's hagiography and abject worship of the sainted Troops, who do not cuss, do not drink, praise Jesus hourly and, for God's sake, never touch themselves in such a manner as to spill their seed uselessly into the dust.
Yep. When I was in basic training in San Diego, we had to spend endless hours being "instructed" by E-5's and E-6's doing a shore rotation after their "WestPac". The major things that I learned in those sessions were 1) what a terrific bargain Subic Bay was for whoremongers on a budget, and 2) that Australia was one of the world's greatest, but least-recognized, reservoirs of sleazy women.
And I got sent to the Atlantic Fleet.....
Anyway, at least Lopez' has done us the favor of revealing how laughably shaky her take on basic reality is.
The major things that I learned in those sessions were 1) what a terrific bargain Subic Bay was for whoremongers on a budget, and 2) that Australia was one of the world's greatest, but least-recognized, reservoirs of sleazy women.
I learned those exact two lessons in boot camp in San Diego. Only got to find out about one of them in real life, thank you very much Saddam, for getting our three ports in Australia canceled.
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Well, let's pie K-lo. Right, Matt? That would be Funny!
Posted by Joe Strummer | April 24, 2008 4:55 PM