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McCain's Iraq Strategy: Pray Harder

15 May 2008 10:35 am

I'm really confused as to what's going on in the Iraq section of John McCain's big speech. His rebuttal to the idea that he favors endlessly prolonging a ruinous war is that he hopes things will go much better in the future. This is his vision of the future:

By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension.

No word on whether or not there will be a pony in every garage. I mean, look, presumably when Bush first invaded Iraq he was hoping it would turn out well. When he warned in 2004 that violence would get worse if we left, he was hoping things would get better in 2005. But instead things got worse. Then when he warned in 2005 that if we left there would be civil war, he was presumably hoping that staying would avoid civil war. But it didn't. McCain's conceit here is perhaps that our Iraq policy has been failing due to a lack of grandiose dreams and wishful thinking, though as Ilan Goldenberg notes McCain himself has had plenty of wishful thinking over the years.

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Hmm. . . ponies in our garages would certainly reduce gasoline consumption, and hay is renewable. Don't know about any methane emissions, or N2O consequences.

The bottomline is that he is hoping for things to happen which are outside the power of our military to achieve, such as Iraq being a functioning democracy, the Iraq civil war being over, the militias being disbanded, and the central government exercising effective authority over the entire country.

So although he touts this as a list of things "I would hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as President," in this section it really is a list of things he hopes the Iraqis will do by the end of his first term. And there is no guarantee they will do those things, and McCain can't make them.

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John McCain = a saucer of milk

Cool! Will all the happily returned veterans also be given free vacations on our awesome Moon Base 1?

And there is no guarantee they will do those things, and McCain can't make them.

The Sri Lankans are also in the midst of a bitter 3 way civil war. It's been going on longer than the Iraqi war has been. It's violence ebbs and flows, but the threat is always present and recently it's gotten worse.

We're not there, pushing things along, purely because there's no oil to be had in Sri Lanka. McCain's always going to have a contradiction and confusion in his explanations of his Iraq policy because of two things: he wants a "win" simply because he doesn't want to "lose" and he doesn't want to openly discuss the imperialism at the root of why he wants to "win" in Iraq.

Jeffrey Davis,

Indeed. And the truth is that while McCain undoubtedly hopes for all of those things, he will settle for reasonably secure bases in Iraq from which we can launch attacks on Iran.

I like the bit about the League of Democracies. The question is, who decides on membership? Russia? China? France? Venezuela... oh wait, we are starting to sound like te UN security council here.

And stating that he wants to appear before Congress, like the British Prime Minister appears before the Commons - uh, is he aware that the British PM is a MEMBER of the House of Commons? that they have a fused legislative and executive? and that appearing before them is not viewed as an honour but as a duty, and an onerous one at that?

John McCain will give you a pony!

This is exactly of a piece with most of the "policy" proposals on McCain's websites. When you actually look at them, they are not policies at all. Rather, in a given area, McCain lists a bunch of desireable outcomes that he'd like to see. Missing, however, is the pesky step 2 of actual proposals that will bridge the gap between electing McCain and his achieving all the wonderful goals he outlines.

For all the grief Obama got about lack of substance in his campaign, he's got 10 times the substnace that McCain does. But no-one seems to notice or care that McCain's campaign is utterly content-free.

If McCain plans on a one-term presidency, 2013 dumps Iraq into the lap of his successor.

Hey, what about that free mule we've all been dreaming of?

1. Get elected
2. ???
3. Victory!

His problem-- and its a serious one-- is that he's a Republican running in a Democratic year. Poor bastard's year was 2000, I'm afraid his time has come and gone.

In a rational world, he'd move left on economics... push universal health care, promise to reduce economic inequality, hammer Wall Street. But he's a Republican, so rational doesn't get you anywhere.

If he tries to move left, both the Republican activists and money guys will abandon him. Hell, Limbaugh and his crew are already furious at him over immigration and climate change. So McCain is stuck with wishes instead of actual proposals.

Hey, what about that free mule we've all been dreaming of?

If you truely love America, it is time to seriously discuss ideas how to make this country better.

Otherwise let us start again the drama of "The Emperor''s New Clothes". It is entertaining at least.

Frank Grigaliunas ....I have been laughing my _ss off over your "mule" comment !! We already have one Jack_ss. Why not more. Trickle down economics are percolating well down to the Asian worker. When debt and no work reduces America to a developing nation we'll all need that ox cart.

Frank Grigaliunas ....I have been laughing my _ss off over your "mule" comment !! We already have one Jack_ss. Why not more. Trickle down economics are percolating well down to the Asian worker. When debt and no work reduces America to a developing nation we'll all need that ox cart.

Perhaps Mr. McCain could do the country a great favor and explain, with specificity, how the Iraq war has (or will) make America "secure in her [sic] freedom."

Also, the location of America's breasts and vagina.

You can't make the election about national honor in the face of a troubled war unless there is a troubled war and you plan to continue it to victory or at least "peace with honor".

The last time a Democratic candidate who scrabbled together a coalition of upper middle class white left-liberals, African-Americans, and kids against a Republican candidate running in part on a theme of national honor in the face of a troubled war, rising inflation, and the prospect of an energy crisis he lost by an historical margin.

I can't believe the silence from Obama/DNC on this. They are choosing to take Bush's bait from across the pond instead. This is a golden opportunity to continue the lost-bearings critique and paint McCain as a colossal flip-flopper on the biggest of issues.

But of course there is absolutely no difference between the McCain plan for Iraq and Obama's.
The progressive sweetie abandoned his lies about withdrawing a division a month and now pledges a situational response to American troop deployment.
Does the left believe that is just Hussein talk for withdrawal?
If so they are deluding themselves.
Obama did nothing in the Senate to promote an American withdrawal. To the contrary he has continuously voted to fund American war crimes in Iraq.
Get used to it; if elected
Obama will not end the American war on Iraq.
His most "progressive" policy will be an attempt to raise taxes and fees on the middle and upper classes so as to fund some minor giveaways to the poor.
And any complaints about his failure to keep his campaign promises will be met with accusations of racism; that and of course it is all Bush's fault.

"The progressive sweetie abandoned his lies about withdrawing a division a month ..."

This is still on his campaign website:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.

"Obama did nothing in the Senate to promote an American withdrawal."

Obama introduced the Iraq War De-esclation Act in January of 2007.

Who else wants to join me in my "faith-based" scam, oops, business venture? I'm getting a no-bid contract for Iraq "reconstruction".
I've hired some church ladies to pray for peace in Iraq. We know Shrubby likes this idea, 'cause Jesus is his bud. We'll throw a couple bucks in the collection plate, and put the rest in a nice Cayman account.
Who wants to be my VP of Praying? Offer runs out November 2008.

Linus,

The problem your analogy is that this is an Iraqi civil war, and it makes no real sense to talk about the United States winning, or even achieving "peace with honor", in an Iraqi civil war. The good news is that the United States also cannot lose an Iraqi civil war, which is a large part of why the American people are fine with us just leaving--they understand that whatever happens next in Iraq, good or bad, is up to the Iraqis.

A five year long Friedmann unit.

Don't you get it, Matt? McCain is positioning himself to be a candidate of hope and change, just like Obama!

McCain: I have hope that things will change!

"By January 2013, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won. Iraq is a functioning democracy, although still suffering from the lingering effects of decades of tyranny and centuries of sectarian tension."

McCain is just wishing.

uh..uh...he said 'Friedmann unit'

A peaceful, stable Iraq by 2013 is ridiculous.

Therefore, we have two candidates who each propose withdraw, leading to a resolution to the Iraq occupation that is unsatisfying.

Given that we will withdraw from Iraq, and given that there will be no satisfying resolution, do you think the American electorate will opt to withdraw in 2009 (Obama) or wait three years for the same results in 2013?

No brainer. Due to that comparison, at the moment McCain's candidacy is lifeless.

I'd love to see McCain's detailed timeline on finding these ponies. Not even the Soviet Union had 5-year plans for their WARS!

It's probably just as well that Terry Southern and Joseph Heller are dead, because they wouldn't have a clue what the f**k to write these days....

McCain presents a tragically dark and pessimistic view of the future in Iraq. I mean, look at it this way. For four years, we floundered with an unworkable strategy, all against the advice of McCain (or at least as he remembers it). Finally, Bush gave in and adopted McCain's strategy in early 2007. And now he says it will take *six more years* of fighting under his brilliant strategy to achieve his final, kinda victory.

Wow, six years. That's a hell of a strategy he has there.

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The whole point of the Bush-Cheney war on Iran is to divert attention from Iraq, pin the blame for losing Iraq on Iran, then continue collecting the oil and war profiteering profits for the next four years - and beyond if they can engineer it.

McCain is just the tool they need to keep things going. But even if he isn't elected, it won't matter - because starting the Iran war before the election will guarantee the next administration will keep it going no matter who is elected.

Is Obama going to pull back from an ongoing war with Iran since he's on record as saying "Iran is a threat"? I don't think so. He can't even pull out of Iraq in less than two years or more. Is he going to risk having his first year in office wrecked by having the Republicans call him a "national disgrace" by "not supporting the troops" who are "being killed by Iranians"?

Especially with Clinton, the Vice President (because the DNC caved in to her extortion and put her on the ticket), bleating about "obliterating Iran".

No frickin' way, Jose.

That's assuming Obama even wins - which is increasingly unlikely as an Iran war before the elections will give McCain a "war bounce" that the "war hero" will use to kick Obama's ass.

I'm telling you guys again: either gut McCain on that "war hero" crap or watch him become President.

McCain:

“And I believe that the success will be fairly easy” and “There's no doubt in my mind that... we will be welcomed as liberators.” [CNN, Larry King Live, 9/24/02. MSNBC, Hardball, 3/24/03]

“I think we could go in with much smaller numbers than we had to do in the past... I don't believe it's going to be nearly the size and scope that it was in 1991.” [Face the Nation, 9/15/02]

“There's not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shias. So I think they can probably get along.” [MSNBC Hardball, 4/23/03]

When McCain was asked “at what point will America be able to say the war was won?” He responded, “...it’s clear that the end is, is, is very much in sight.” [ABC, “Good Morning America,” 4/9/03]

“Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course.” [The Hill, 12/8/05 (Exactly one year before violence in Iraq peaked)]

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