I probably shouldn't write any more about this woman and her staff. Suffice it to say that I've found her behavior over the past couple of months to be utterly unconscionable and this speech is no different. I think if I were to try to express how I really feel about the people who've been enabling her behavior, I'd say something deeply unwise. Suffice it to say, that for quite a while now all of John McCain's most effective allies have been on Hillary Clinton's payroll.
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Clinton's Speech
03 Jun 2008 09:43 pm
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good lord, where is this going?
Amen. This is awful. What a hollow person.
A bridesmaid scorned.
Holy crap! She is asking for donations!
She wants to hear from us? Like, from the Democratic voters that gave Obama the nomination?
Well thank you for saying what you did then, even if you can't say everything you want to.
Deeply unwise?
Like Hillary for VP? What could be more unwise than that.
Jesus, this speech is so wrong it could have been written by Tim K and that ranting lady who tried to disrupt the DNC rules committee over the weekend.
Sigh.
McCain/Clinton?
Hillary 9/11 Hillary Hillary!
Holy shit she isn't conceding tonight. I cannot believe how right the GOP right-wing was about her. She is true evil. I am an atheist, but I'm reconsidering that now that I've seen Satan up close.
Unbelievable!
I believe in this party, and now I am going to lead you to Denver and tear it in half.
Just Unbelievable.
And then the reminder that Liberty herself is a white lady.
All of you just hate the 18 million rural, hard working, white, hard, white working people that represent more people than ever before and who unlike everyone else are tough enough to keep going, except that they won't be deciding anything tonight.
I personally like when she credited the Obama supporters for all that they have accomplished, yet omitted what they had indeed accomplished, the Democratic nomination.
I'm genuinely flabbergasted she didnt concede. I just don't get it
classless, ego, classless, pathetic!!!
Obama's speech apparently got leaked, it's on DailyKos.
As Matt would say, Suffice it to say, it's a good one. Very praising of the Clintons.
Nick said: "She is true evil. I am an atheist, but I'm reconsidering that now that I've seen Satan up close."
"You know, sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace." -- Bob Dylan
Or a woman of peace, for that matter.
That woman is a monster.
I almost vomited listening to that self-serving, ego-driven drivel.
Normally I would be more tactful in expressing my views, but I can't help it any longer. That woman is a sociopath. Andrew Sullivan is correct.
She has LOST and now she wants to "consider her options"?
Translation, she wants to see how much she can extort out of Senator Obama rather than uniting behind the person who now is the standard bearer for all the issues she professes to believe in and care for. She talks blithely of uniting the party while the crowd listening to her chants "Denver! Denver! Denver!" over and over again.
I think I will be physically ill after all. I can't write anymore.
Obama should announce his VP pick right now, so Hillary can just go away.
I recall when the lunatic fringe would dismiss the Right's manifold excoriations of HRC as rhetoric. She was, then, their gal, the iron lady-champion of the cause.
How's the attitude these days, gang?
I love her half-assed message control: keep her audience totally closed off from the news, but don't discipline them at all, so they come off as even more clueless than they would ordinarily be.
Right there with you, Matt.
Totally pisses me off.
Sounds like we're going to get a "make me the VP or I'm going to Denver" scenario.
I am having a hard time reconciling the positive feeling I have had for this woman over the years with her behavior tonight. It is shameful, but she is unashamed. And most of her supporters seem ecstatic.
I cannot believe the people chanting "Denver". We need these people to help move this country forward and they seem to hold the country hostage unless we can show some level of fealty to their bruised egos.
Unfuckingbelievable.
It may be that nobody in America has more invested in Obama winning now that Hillary Clinton does. If he loses, the bulk of the Democratic Party will point to what she said (and didn't say) tonight, and we will not forget.
More liveblogging here.
Ouch! Tom Brokaw compared Hillary to Bill Bellichek. That's low.
I have been occasionally in favor of a "unity ticket", but her speech just ended that. I am pretty damn pissed at her behavior.
If she concedes tomorrow, maybe all that goes away, but I am not pleased.
Just like school in the summertime.
Since NC/IN, this has all been about the Clinton's emotional self-indulgence. They want to cultivate the outrage of her loyal supporters. They want Obama to have to suffer as much pain as possible in order to get her to play ball. I don't even think she wants to be VP. I think she wants Obama to pay politically for not offering it to her so that she can deepen her martyrdom.
"The 18 million people who voted for me need to be respected." Seriously, Bill and Hilary stay up late at night and read Taylor Marsh and TalkLeft, and convince themselves that they owe it hilary_48_forever to keep on fighting. I hate, hate, hate them.
I'm trying to be objective and empathetic, but I think that Hillary Clinton is a poison that ruins anything she comes in contact with at this point. I didn't think that she could spoil this amazing, historic evening for me, but she's doing her best. She's been given a lot of chances now to do the honorable thing gracefully, but every time she just crosses the line a little further. At some point you have to stop extending the olive branch. There is no way in hell she should or will be Obama's VP pick.
There's no need to be mad at Clinton, she's only doing what all successful politicians do, seizing every chance to build herself up and tear down her opponent. Obama would be a fool to pick her as VP though.
Haha, she held the event in a place without phone, cable or internet access. Fitting, the only two places that don't realize this thing is over are the basement of a small college in New York, and in the mind of some dillusional Clintonistas.
Haha, she held the event in a place without phone, cable or internet access. Fitting, the only two places that don't realize this thing is over are the basement of a small college in New York, and in the mind of some dillusional Clintonistas.
Haha, she held the event in a place without phone, cable or internet access. Fitting, the only two places that don't realize this thing is over are the basement of a small college in New York, and in the mind of her and her staffers.
So instead of her legacy being the first viable female candidate, she's a sore loser. Great message to send to/about women. When we don't win we're sore losers who blame sexism. Thanks for nothing.
The sad thing is that all the charges we've been defending the Clintons from the last 16 years by the right wing have proven true: narcissistic, unscrupulous, and malevolent.
As a constituent of hers I don't think I can vote for her for anything again.
"Hillary, you ignorant..."
She said her supporters need to be respected?!?!?! Today Barack Obama became the first non white male to be a major party's nominee for the PRESIDENCY. To insinuate that he's just not good enough for Hillary Clinton and not acknowledge his VICTORY is the SINGLE greatest act of political disrespect I have ever seen. Certainly people don't always endorse their primary opponents. But the significance of this nomination is such that, I'm ashamed to have voted for her for Senate in 2006.
She'll decide what to do? Certainly not the nomination. THAT, thank GOD, is not up to her.
I love that Hillary is saying "I'm not making any decisions tonight."
I got news for you, Hill. You don't get to decide. All us democrats get to decide. And we decided already. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Everyone should go to her website and vote for "Drop Out Now". Is that an option?
I posted nice things about her all day and told people not to be too critical of her . . .
"This woman and her staff"
Would you ever in a million years say "this man and his staff"? No? Well, then, don't say "this woman" unless you intend to oink while you're doing it.
maybe she's waiting for larry's tape to finally come out
Disgusting, self-serving speech. Obama would be insane to offer her the VP spot after that.
What a little echo chamber you people are! Obama's good friend Ted Kennedy went all the way to the convention in 1980 and tried to get the rules changed on the floor in Madison Square Garden so that pledged Carter delegates could vote for him! And he was far behind. Gary Hart, another Obama ally, was far behind and went to the convention. Jesse Jackson, another Obama ally,went all the way to the convention both times he ran.
Are all of these Obama-backers "monsters?" Or just Hillary, who has much more support than any of them did? And it's not at all clear to me that she is even going to the convention. This is June 3rd. I think this will still be resolved far sooner than that and in a matter of days she will be campaigning for Obama. But she has ample precedent from Obama's allies if she wanted to go all the way to Denver.
There's no option to tell her to drop out on her website. How undemocratic.
Chacter is destiny. Had it been possible for Hillary Clinton to act differntly, she would have. She would have run a different campaign; she probably would not be the nominee. (She also would have married a different man.) But she cannot help being what she is. After months of seeing her character on display, how can anyone be surprised at the consistency? Face it, folks: this is what she is.
I hope she goes all the way to Denver. And then keeps going, all the way to the Pacific Ocean, and keeps going, swimming out to sea. And then I hope she is eaten by sharks.
Would you ever in a million years say "this man and his staff"? No?Of course one might very well use that phrase, eg. about McCain (eg. "that man and his staff have no clue how to organize a campaign event. That man has no idea how to give a speech.").
Moron.
Obama's good friend Ted Kennedy went all the way to the convention in 1980 and tried to get the rules changed on the floor in Madison Square Garden so that pledged Carter delegates could vote for him! And he was far behind. Gary Hart, another Obama ally, was far behind and went to the convention. Jesse Jackson, another Obama ally,went all the way to the convention both times he ran.
And those times worked out so well for the party, too. Aren't we supposed to be learning from history, not repeating it?
The convention battles Vito refers to occured in 1980, 1984, and 1988.
How did those battles work out for Kennedy, Hart, or Jackson? More importantly, how did they work out for Carter, Mondale, or Dukakis?
This has been an enlightening experience. While searching for a transcript of the Clinton speech this eve, found this blog. It seems like a group of postal workers on crank, or maybe just cranky. I wouldn't wish either of these dems on the country;both too bought in to make the needed difference. But the AMOUNT of difference noted by the commentators seems to have nada to do with any ideas, but just gender or race or amount of time they have stood in the republican firing line.
Vito, there is a difference in going to the convention, and holding a Nominee hostage simply because you don't recognize reality. If I thought she could go to the convention without being petulant, without playing the victim and claiming that the election process was somehow unfair, then I, and probably the rest of us wouldn't have a problem with her taking it to the convention.
Vito, there is a difference in going to the convention, and holding a Nominee hostage simply because you don't recognize reality. If I thought she could go to the convention without being petulant, without playing the victim and claiming that the election process was somehow unfair, then I, and probably the rest of us wouldn't have a problem with her taking it to the convention.
Vito, there is a difference in going to the convention, and holding a Nominee hostage simply because you don't recognize reality. If I thought she could go to the convention without being petulant, without playing the victim and claiming that the election process was somehow unfair, then I, and probably the rest of us wouldn't have a problem with her taking it to the convention.
Can't spell Clinton without a C, a U, an N, and a T.
Then again, I never was a good speller.
The other party has been telling you this for years and years. Good morning people, did you have a nice sleep.
What a little echo chamber you people are! Obama's good friend Ted Kennedy went all the way to the convention in 1980 and tried to get the rules changed on the floor in Madison Square Garden so that pledged Carter delegates could vote for him! And he was far behind. Gary Hart, another Obama ally, was far behind and went to the convention. Jesse Jackson, another Obama ally,went all the way to the convention both times he ran.
I was about to make the same point as 55 and Persia. never mind.
Is there a way to delete my own comments? My mouse is messed up, so unless I use the most delicate of touch, you have to read my drivel two or three times instead of once.
Would you ever in a million years say "this man and his staff"? No? Well, then, don't say "this woman" unless you intend to oink while you're doing it.
Of course I would. See past uses of "this man" at the link.
If Barack Obama loses the election, it will be because of his own flaws as a candidate - not because anything Hillary Clinton or his advisors have said or done. What you see as evidence that the Hillary Clinton campaign is hurting Obama is the same evidence that Hillary's supporters see as evidence that she would make a much stronger general election candidate.
I would have like to have heard a true concession from Hillary tonight, and I did think that the hypocrisy displayed by Harold Ickes over the weekend was over the top.
Still, Obama has limped across the finish line because of Rev. Wright, because of his comments in San Francisco, and because of his inability, so far, to convince working class whites and Latinos that he is the best candidate for them.
The election is still his to win or lose in November. Hillary will have very little to do with the result. The people who will influence whether he wins or loses will likely be Barack Obama, John McCain, George W. Bush, and Michelle Obama - not Hillary.
So I agree, Matt. You probably shouldn't write any more about Hillary or her campaign advisors.
That was the most odious, narcissistic performance I think I've ever seen in all the many years I've been following politics. Good grief--she's set the cause of feminism and women's rights back about 50 years with her whiny refusal to face the obvious and show some grace in defeat.
It's a good thing I didn't have anything in my hands when she repeated her ridiculous meme about winning the popular vote or my TV would have been toast. I think she's told herself this lie so often, she's come to believe it.
Classless to the very end. Obama would be a fool to choose her for VP. I hope she's exiled to an ambassadorial post in Siberia. Or perhaps Hell. That's where she belongs.
Anon, that is so hugely out of line and offensive I'm speechless, and hoping you're a Republican troll Try taking a cue from Obama and showing a little class; if you're upset at Clinton for her lack of grace, don't try to outdo her.
The other party has been telling you this for years and years.
Yes, we know, and those who considered supporting her were hoping she would let this attitude loose on Republicans if she became president.
Hillary Clinton never fails to disappoint.
"Would you ever in a million years say "this man and his staff"? No? Well, then, don't say "this woman" unless you intend to oink while you're doing it."
Hey Bloix, I'm really really really really really sick of women who are sore losers and thus are tossing around accusations of sexism like there is no tomorrow. STOP.
And if you think you're going to vote for McCain...well, I hope you enjoyed Roe V Wade for the last few decades.
Gergen, after much restraint over the past 5 months, finally lowered the boom on her, for her speech tonight. That says something. Bascially Gergen is implying that she is not in the professional class, of politics. She's an amateur.
Of course, many of us knew that long ago. I think Hillary's problem is that she has no talent. That's gotta suck.
Can people tone down the misogyny? I understand people are pissed at Hillary, but stop it with the stupid cunt and bitch remarks.
And no, clinton supporters. Just because some anonymous loser posted something dumb in a blog comment does not mean that Obama and his supporters are sexist idiots. A few are, but by far those are the exception.
Anon, that is so hugely out of line and offensive I'm speechless, and hoping you're a Republican troll Try taking a cue from Obama and showing a little class; if you're upset at Clinton for her lack of grace, don't try to outdo her.
My wife and I are Clinton supporters, but we decided months ago that we'd vote for anybody the Democrats nominated. We still feel that way, but comments like Matt's and the majority of posters in this thread are shaking our resolve. I'm not sure if it's occurred to you people that the Democrats have to come together if we're going to beat McCain. Obama knows this, but apparently his supporters don't.
at this point forget waiting to see what will happen. the scorched earth policy is in place. I certainly hope Obama makes NO concessions to the Clintons.
What's so awful is that her speech will -- rightly -- be condemned as one of the most vile acts of emotional infantalism and self-indulgence in American polical history, and that reaction will be proof, once again, to her supporters that everyone is out to get Hilary. She is going to take her angry white women and go home. Seriously, can't we just make her President of West Virgina, Kentucky and Ohio and let Obama be President of the rest?
Bloix, exactly how else would one refer to Hillary? "This human"? I commend you for putting yourself out there in what is obviously hostile territory, but you exemplify the sheer paranoia that Hillary's supporters have demonstrated regarding perceived sexism in this race, which, in addition to being obnoxious and unhelpful, obscures the real displays of sexism that have occurred during this race.
Well, imagine that, an anonymous poster makes me no longer want to pay attention to a comment section.
Thanks, BP. And fuck off, anon.
Bloix got pwn3d. Very badly. Major pwn3d-age.
Nice try though.
"We still feel that way, but comments like Matt's and the majority of posters in this thread are shaking our resolve."
I just don't understand this. You'd let people you don't know, on a blog, affect your vote for President of the United States?
Has anyone from the Obama campaign ever echoed the disdain reflected by some here?
Not to mention I find it perfectly easy to spell Clinton without an "U".
Bloix got pwn3d. Very badly. Major pwn3d-age.
Nice try though.
I'm not sure if it's occurred to you people that the Democrats have to come together if we're going to beat McCain.
I'm not one to hear aspersions of Clinton, since I rally, really really want to go back to liking her. But Stan, people here are complaining that she's not coming together to get behind the Democratic nominee.
I actually read all of these comments and Atlantic linked blogs before I had a chance to see her speech. Having just seen it, I can only conclude that all of you are high on crack. Her speech was neither negative or divisive and perfectly appropriate for the venue and the moment. Jesus, I hope Obama has more sense than to listen to the fools shouting from his side. Both from bloggers I respect and like (Yglasias, Fallows) and someone I always thought was an idiot (Andrew Sullivan) I'm hearing how this speech was vile, evil treachery. Are we looking at the same speech? Hillary Clinton WON the South Dakota primary - how is that the best time to concede? It's not a sign of Obama's strength or his supporters confidence in him that they have to resort to this kind of nastiness to describe a fairly pedestrian "victory" speech. Had Obama actually won South Dakota, it would be different and I could maybe see your point. For now, all I can say is that Obama's supporters are like a five hundred pound weight tied to his leg. This shit WILL NOT fly in the general election. You try to tar John McCain from the same tool-box you went after Clinton and Barak Obama will be "the first African American nominee for president" to lose in a fucking landslide.
I think Hillary's problem is that she has no talent.
You know, I don't necessarily think it's a fatal flaw. There are many people, myself included, who don't have a lot of natural talent and aren't off-the-charts brilliant but make up for it with brute force hard work. Hillary Clinton leveraged what she had, despite her lack of inborn, natural talent, to get really far. It just so happens she ran into someone who had all that inborn talent and charisma that she doesn't have, and he was stunning enough and came around at just the right time such that her brute force hard work couldn't overcome it. Quite honestly, I think she realizes what she's up against, but she's not ready to admit that she's up against a wall that indefatiguability and persistence can't overcome.
I used to discuss the Clintons with pride having voted for them in the 90's over 2 chump Republican candidates.....and now I view them both with the contempt that they've earned - it's hard to believe that these are the same folks. At least the wench is out of the race, although judging by the despicable campaign she ran, she'll probably spend the next few months chiseling away at Obama so he'll lose and so that she can run again in '12...
Hillary would make a great ambassador to Bosnia because she's such a hard working white person, as far as I know.
The bitter 2nd runner ups can keep debating over what Hillary & her most fervent devotees demand, and how Obama can't possibly win, and blah blah blah, while Obama shows the sort of class that might be nice to see in leadership once in a while.
"Has anyone from the Obama campaign ever echoed the disdain reflected by some here?"
Absolutely! Remember the time when they said Hillary wasn't fit to lay a wreath on the tomb of the unknown soldier? And that was only one insult of many.
I would like to point out that half the democratic voters voted for Hillary. And, 80-90% of Oboma supporters would be perfectly fine with Hillary being the nominee. Demonising Hillary really isn't the smartest move.
The Hillary haters should save their nastiness for the republicans.
How you would refer to Clinton? How about this senator? How about this candidate?
Look, I've been an Obama supporter since February, when I had to choose between him and Edwards. I voted for him in my primary and I've contributed the limit to his campaign. I don't like Clinton. I think she's dishonest and divisive andI think her campaign hurts the party. That doesn't mean that there aren't oinkers who support Obama. "This woman" is oink speak and people who use it are pigs.
Nathan,
There are NO MORE STATES in which to campaign. She has lost. Unless she is going to cajole the supers with the same imbecilic arguments she has been using, without success, to change their minds.
Or maybe we should invade Iran, quickly make it an American territory, and have her campaign there.
Please, any ideas that will make the rest of the party think that this speech was in any way appropriate.
BTW, I went on to hillaryclinton.com. They asked for a supporting message: "It's over. Go home. Take a bath."
Utterly graceless. Words fail me.
Nathan, it may be a complex idea, but when you have lost the race, you admit you lost and quit. You can quit gracefully, or poorly. The one thing you cannot do is pretend that you won. That's why her speech was crass, self-serving and foolish. Now, why don't you cash in your troll points for McDodo? Surely you've earned a hand-signed dildo for immediate rear insertion.
Yo Vito at 10:15, note that the Dems lost badly in all of the instances that you cite. Cheers!
THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS!! FOR HILLARY!!!
If she so's about 'respect' then why don't we start with self-repsect? Seriously. She has seen the nomination - and the Oval Office - as vindication for the compromises and humiliations she's had to endure while staying with Bill. For her to come this far after this long only to lose it is incomprehensible to her. Her non-concession and hints about willing to be v.p. seem to be all about her trying to salvage something from this campaign. That, or she's decided she's just gonna pull a Sampson and pull the whole thing down around her after a grand failure.
Seriously, Bloix, if you want to tell us that the phrase "this woman" is sexist, you'll have to make an argument as to WHY that's the case. There's nothing inherently sexist about it, and I don't see how it's any different than calling someone "that man."
Nathan, it may be a complex idea, but when you have lost the race, you admit you lost and quit. You can quit gracefully, or poorly. The one thing you cannot do is pretend that you won. That's why her speech was crass, self-serving and foolish. Now, why don't you cash in your troll points for McDodo? Surely you've earned a hand-signed dildo for immediate rear insertion.
Stan:
Have you been over to Hillary's blog on her website? http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/06/04/012917#view_comments
Take a look and then tell me who is not coming together as a party.
The Hillary haters should save their nastiness for the republicans.
On the contrary, Hillary Clinton should save HER nastiness for the Republicans. I'm still waiting.
Yo, Vito at 10:15, note that the Dems lost badly in all of the instances that you cite. Cheers!
Matthew Yglesias is a merchant of mud.
Hillary Clinton is going to endorse Barack Obama for president, she's going to say plenty of nice things about him and she's going to work her heart out to get him elected in November. But her last speech, after a solid victory in South Dakota, wasn't about Barack Obama, it was about her campaign and her supporters. Do you think her supporters wanted to hear a concession speech and a lecture about party unity? No.
I know most people here, some in the Democratic party, and many in the media, will come out an continue to trash Hillary Clinton just as they have unrelentingly for 5 months now. Nonetheless I know that Hillary will do what is best for the party and endorse Barack Obama for president and campaign for him relentlessly over the summer, at the convention, and into the fall.
Yes we should all go to her web page and write "Drop out for the good of the country".
Nathan and Stan:
How is pointing out that Hillary Clinton LOST the primary, refused to acknowledge the historic moment by congratulating Obama on his victory, and didn't even stop to correct her supporters who were chanting "Denver" repeatedly, wrong on behalf of Obama supporters?
This woman would rather take the moment to hold Obama hostage, to try and extort the VP slot, than rally behind a man who has been MORE than patient with her.
This race has been over for months, and yet not once did he suggest she get out. Even tonight, he had nothing but complimentary things to say about her.
But she couldn't be spared the time to acknowledge one of the greatest moments in U.S. history. Instead, she is going to consider her options. This is a slap in the face.
It is not misogyny to recognize that this woman, if she truly wants what's best for the party, should have taken the moment to direct her supporters to vote for Obama and drop out. Hillary did not do what was best for the party tonight. She did not do the best thing for America tonight. She did the best thing for HER and HER ALONE tonight.
"See my 18 million supporters? Better give me the VP slot or I'm taking this to Denver."
The Hillary haters should save their nastiness for the republicans.
On the contrary, Hillary Clinton should save HER nastiness for the Republicans. I'm still waiting.
To be fair, I do recall ONE clearly sexist use of the phrase. "I did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky."
Oh, and Tim K.: get bent.
Utterly graceless. Words fail me.
Posted by danimal
Actually, I think those two words describe her and her speech perfectly.
I'm with Bloix, the "this woman" rubbed me the wrong way too. That said I'm also with the substance of the post and most of the comments in the thread as well.
Do you think her supporters wanted to hear a concession speech and a lecture about party unity? No.
And if Obama were in the same position as Hillary, and if I were in the audience at his speech, I would not want to hear a concession speech, either, but such a speech would be necessary.
This has really been an object lesson for me about the mindset of certain political supporters: they have no idea that sometimes the candidate you fight hard for loses. One of the roles of a political candidate is to help his or her supporters understand that losing happens and guide them into a good role after the battle is lost.
Could someone please count the number of times Hillary said "I" and "Me" in her speech? It was truly pathetic.
See, Jim Crozier says "this woman" not once, but twice. And what's the implication? That a woman had the temerity to act so brazenly. A woman has the obligation to be modest and self-effacing. You would never say "this man."
Of course, it's common for pigs of all shapes and sizes to deny that they're pigs. They oink out, "I'm not an oinker." They squeal, "misogynist? Not me! How can I be a misogynist for pointing out how unwomanly that woman is?"
Just because Clinton sucks doesn't mean that Jim Crozier isn't a pig.
Her transformation into Tracy Flick is completed.
And then count the number of times Obama said "I" or "Me" in his speech. He did say "my Grandmother," but only because he couldn't say "America's Grandmother." Barrack is a class act. Hillary showed no class. She missed a great opportunity.
If Hillary is such a force in the party, how come she gave her speech (in New York City!) at a subterranean basketball court? I mean, on a Tuesday night, were Madison Square Garden and Lincoln Center unavailable? What about Central Park? Carnegie Hall? Seems like the leader of 18 million might have wanted to book a lit
It is fitting that her speech began with a pointless, but still self-serving, lie: that South Dakota was the last state to vote. Seriously, at this point, I don't think she could find the states that voted for Obama on a map.
Posted by pjs | June 3, 2008 9:47 PM